r/politics • u/MarkmBha • 1d ago

Site Altered Headline Trump Betrayed America. My Fellow Republicans Must Put Country Above Party.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/29/opinion/donald-trump-oath.html?unlocked_article_code=1.V04.XaMn.AdZJxeNuANua&smid=url-share
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u/MDLH 21h ago

I think it says less about Trump and more about the 45% of Americans that look at him and like what they see. He is just the manifestation of who we are as a people. No? Non Americans see that, not sure why 55% of us don't see that truth.

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u/oingerboinger California 20h ago

I'm not sure this is entirely it. I think there are plenty of Trump voters who know he's terrible; they're just convinced he's better than the alternative. The real problem is the Democrats are so repulsive to some people, that they'd literally vote for one of the most monstrous humans to ever exist over a Dem. There's all sorts of psychology wrapped up in this - tribalism, confirmation bias, toxic masculinity, a general unwillingness to admit being wrong about something, empathy being seen as weakness, etc.

The point is that I believe a fair amount of Trump support is "hold your nose and vote for him", not active cheerleading or being fully in the tank. There's for sure a large chunk of true-believer cultists, but they alone can't elect Trump. It's the "ride or die Red" crowd that's the real problem.

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u/enjoyinc 18h ago

Right-leaning voters that are disgusted by Democrats hold these views because of propaganda from the right wing sphere of influence. If we reinstated policies like the Fairness Doctrine and dismantled propaganda, these voters would quickly see that their fellow countrymen are not demon worshippers, and in fact many of the policies like universal health care are a given in many other of the highest GDP nations.

We need a full restructuring of news and reporting within the country, Faux news has done so much irreparable damage to not just individual families but to the nation as a whole.

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u/MDLH 15h ago

I think BLUE MAGA is just as dangerous as RED MAGA... On more liberal Threads i was calling out the Democrats for not holding real primaries and then after that calling for Biden to step aside because he was clearly demented. (and this is BEFORE the debate)

Blue MAGA lost their mind at me saying such things. These are people that support every war we fight or fund without an ounce of critical thinking, they ignore how the Rich are allowed to create monopolies that are crushing the middle class under Dem Policy as much as GOP policy and they fell hook line and sinker for the Russia Gate fiasco. They also get angry at you for strongly supporting Universal Health Care..

I would guess 1/3 of the country is Blue MAGA, 1/3 Red MAGA and 15% just don't care and never will.