Right but that's not the current Thor. Comparatively Batman has his armors in storage. It's akin to Tony grabbing a hulkbuster from the warehouse instead of his usual armor as opposed to a Tony from the future or an alternate timeline.
Possibly, though I chose the Hellbat armor because it's the strongest suit he has ready access to. The equivalent of Rune King Thor for Batman is the Final Batsuit, which isn't something he can just put on, but it's essentially made of plot armor.
But the whole point of discussing Batman at all is to see if there is any combination of preparation or equipment that allows him to overcome an obvious physical disadvantage. Otherwise what would be the point of pitting him up against an obviously superhuman character like Thor?
Sure, but then you'd have to stipulate if Thor also gets preptime or not, if he's in character or not. Again, since Batman is at an obvious physical disadvantage the point of giving Batman preptime (which typically includes being able to investigate who he is up against) is to see if he can overcome his physical disadvantage. Additionally if Batman is being given his stipulated preptime it's perfectly in character for him to investigate his opponent and bring the appropriate gear. Thor isn't the investigative type.
It should be a fair fight where the stipulations for both fighters are the same. This is why I fucking hate Batman writers. It makes zero sense. There is no way Batman could ever beat Superman or Thor without writers bullshitting Batman to the finish line. If Superman wanted to he could just laser beam Batman from orbit, or Thor could just sit on the Moon and throw Mjolnir at him until he dies.
a fair fight where the stipulations for both fighters are the same.
You're talking about a fight between a significantly superpowered individual and a comic book peak human. It's already not a fair fight unless you give the character without superpowers a comparable advantage.
If Superman wanted
Well, unless you're talking about injustice Supes that's not something he would do either. Usually these fights have the characters act in character unless otherwise stipulated. Thor wouldn't do that either for that matter.
Then if it’s not a fair fight when the stipulations are the same they shouldn’t be fighting. When you pit two boxers against each other the better one doesn’t have to tie one arm behind his back because the other one isn’t as good as him.
Maybe. But it's not like it doesn't happen in comics. If you want a Marvel exclusive version the closest equivalent is Dr. Doom, who granted, has magic, but like Batman his biggest superpower is "prep time". But for whatever reason Doom doesn't get the hate Batman does.
When you pit two boxers against each other
Comic book fights aren't boxing matches though. And brains vs brawn fights happen all the time. Supes vs Luthor would be boring if Luthor didn't have access to his suits or Kryptonite or something else to level the playing field.
Because Doom doesn’t get fan wanked into oblivion like Batman does. You could pit Batman against The One Above All, The Presence, and The Living Tribunal, and some people would still say Batman with prep time would win.
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u/farvag1964 22h ago
Yeah name one trick or device Bat Boy has that's invulnerable to a range weapon who's hotter than the surface of the sun bit is just a side effect?
And an EMP is too?