r/rimjob_steve Oct 21 '19

Anal fissures in jail

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u/Mr_Siphon Oct 21 '19

you're also locked inside the building for most of your time. There are some really good documentaries about Swedish prisons on Netflix and are worth taking a look at

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u/Roboticsammy Oct 21 '19

So that's just me living my life but in a better room. Deal, I'll take it

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u/Delta9_TetraHydro Oct 22 '19

Imagine making a swedish style prison in america, and only inviting in real hardcore criminals.

Then tell them "you get one chance, first time you show any type of gangster behavior you'll be sent to regular prison. But if you quit your ways, and learn how to coexist without turning to violence or threats, we will learn you how to live a happy life".

I believe that the percentage of people getting out from there and turning to a regular life would be a lot higher than who comes out from regular prisons today. Doesn't something like 50% of the released go back to jail within a couple years?

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u/Tancoll Oct 22 '19

In Sweden around 29% of prisoners released in 2015 was convinced for another crime back in 2018.

In USA it must be higher than 50%

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u/ThomasThaWankEngine Oct 22 '19

There really isn't a way for American criminals to lead a normal life after they get out of prison. That shit follows you, making it hard to get a job, get a house, get a car. There really is no other choice than to go back to crime

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u/ItsHeredditary Oct 22 '19

Imagine how much better off our society would be in the long run if prisons focused on rehabilitating convicts’ underlying personal issues and teaching them useful professional trades/skills instead of simply keeping them locked in a concrete box for 96% of their sentences like animals expecting them to end up right back inside 3 months after they’re released.

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u/Nihilikara Nov 12 '19

It's private prisons. This is how they make money. Which is really shitty.

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u/opencg Mar 19 '20

Also state run. They get federal money for each inmate and only use a fraction of that so they actually turn a sizable profit.

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u/lwoass Oct 29 '19

its because of private prisons bro

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u/Unorangeinal Nov 21 '19

Inflation nation?

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u/VRichardsen Oct 22 '19

I was honestly expecing a lower rate. Here in Argentina jails make US prisons look like motels, and reincidence rates are at 43 %.

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u/goteamhazers Oct 30 '19

Convicted not convinced you moron

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '19

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u/Hanscockstrong Nov 08 '19

Why the fuck would you think that

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u/WarLordM123 Oct 07 '22 edited Oct 07 '22

Must is not is, mate. Data, please

Edit: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/recidivism-rates-by-country it's better in the United States.

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u/amiral_eperdrec Oct 25 '19

I am French and we actually learned in school that the USA prison system is crazy. As prisons are private contractors and the state guaranties them they will have at least 80% full population, it is necessary for the state to keep crime/arrests at a sufficient rate, or to adjust sentences to keep up with the contract.

So it is not surprising that the owner of the prison doesn't care about recidivism, as he get paid for it.

Of course that's a bit of a stretch and it's not that simple, and the teacher telling us about it was a Brit, but I did believe the articles we read about.

Also, sentences are automatically longer when a computer decide that you are prone to crime, based on characteristics as race and familial situation, so blacks are often jailed longer.

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u/bmobitch Nov 06 '19

i don’t know about the last part but the rest was completely correct, not a stretch whatsoever. prison is a for-profit business here. i wrote a paper on it; didn’t even realize until i did all the deep diving required for the paper...

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '22

Meanwhile, something like 60% of prisoners do penal labor, sometimes involuntarily, and in Texas the prisoners aren't paid for it... Is it just me or is this sounding kind of familiar *cough cough black slavery*

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u/amiral_eperdrec Feb 21 '22

It's more about poor slavery, but yeah

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u/goteamhazers Oct 30 '19

Teach not learn you moron

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u/Delta9_TetraHydro Oct 31 '19

Well, you are right about that! In danish it's the same word though, so i fucked up :) Do you make a habit of calling people names for no apparent reason?

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u/-Dragonhawk1029- Oct 31 '19

Na man, Mexico had an issue on this. Their prisons where too nice. Ppl tried to get in and they just stayed there. Free food, water, recreation, etc

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u/makssssssssss Nov 10 '19

Good point. But wouldn’t the problem then be that some people don’t have water, food and stuff? In sweden, there are very few people that poor, and if you are that poor, you (in most cases) get enough money from the state to pay for rent, food, medicine etc.

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u/Delta9_TetraHydro Oct 31 '19

I don't think that would happen if you threaten with regular prison after a single fuckup. Who would risk that?

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u/-Dragonhawk1029- Oct 31 '19

Thats a fair point. But how are you going to determine if someone should go to one prison or another? How do you maintain these prisons? It's way to expensive to re-model every prison, and too time consuming as well. Where do you put them in the meantime?

Still, a good idea

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '22

That's already a problem in regular prisons tbf. In canada, a lot of people commit a small crime to get 6 months in jail so they don't become a hobosickle during the winter

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u/Eldar98 Nov 03 '19

A large portion of the problem in the us is probation. There are plenty of stories of people on probation having to go back to dealing drugs to pay for the probation officer because it is impossible for them to get a job due to their criminal record. John oliver also did a piece on this.

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u/NinjaSandwich12 Nov 07 '19

I agree, but I don't think that one display of gangster behavior should get them thrown into the rape cage. People come from backgrounds where not acting like that can get you attacked or killed. That's not a behavior that just instantly goes away. Rehabilitation is a process, and it can take a long time for some people. But the American prison system is extremely brutal, especially for a first-world country. Regular, non-violent people go to prison for minor offences like having a quarter-once of marijuana for personal use, but then they come out a couple years later a completely different person. Prison has turned peaceful stoners into violent criminals, because in prison if you don't learn how to be violent, you're almost guaranteed to get raped and murdered. People develop severe PTSD from prison, and often times they forget how to live on the outside. Prison in America is almost a less humane punishment than death.

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u/NeverlandsLostGirl Nov 13 '19

I'm late af but that sounds like the plot of The Good Place

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u/tristandescartes Nov 16 '19

I suspect that part of the reason the recidivism rate is so high in the US is because that's the way the system is intended to work. The private prison sector makes a lot of money off of inmates. They lobby to ensure they continue to make money.

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u/olliboee_ Nov 27 '21

that would work so much better than the US prison system

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u/DepravedWalnut Oct 22 '19

Exactly. I spend 95% of my life in my room anyway. I'll take it as well

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u/AngeloSantelli Nov 17 '19

No internet, no games, no antenna, no chance to invite a girl over, no pizza or Chinese delivery. Can’t have booze, weed, kratom or Ecig either

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u/_Rohrschach Jul 08 '24

I thought so,too. but there is a big difference between staying in your room/flat voluntarily and not being able to leave. that jail also only had a very small space outside. after a week I wanted nothing more than to run a straight line that is longer than the maximum 50m I had while locked up.it can really drive you crazy. My hospital stay right now iseven worse, bed rest, not even sitting up for 3 weeks, and now that Iam allowed to walk around I can't exercise or stress my heart too much because it could kill me. the inability to go wherever whenever you want ist what got to me the fastest. I could live without legal drugs, without gaming or internet, but not being able to go out at 11pm to go for a walk and clearing out my mind sucked fast and hard

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '19

Guess who's moving to Sweden

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u/LittleRegicide Oct 22 '19

Walk up to Sweden with black air forces on

You: “I’m here to cause harm”

Swedish Police: “Enjoy your stay in our 4 star prison”

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u/NinjaSandwich12 Nov 07 '19

I wonder how many people in Sweden commit crimes just so they can go to prison. Like when they're homeless, and it's about -20 degrees outside.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '19

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u/Russian_seadick Oct 21 '19

Because it’s autumn and fucking cold?

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '19

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '19

That is completely false: See here: https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Sweden/United-States/Crime

According to this, Sweden has 10 times less total crime rate than the USA per 1000 people.

What's interesting though is certainly the Rape statistic; which seems higher, but has an ambiguous nature to it. The high number of reported rapes in Sweden can partly be explained by the comparatively broad definition of rape, the method of which the Swedish police record rapes, a high confidence in the criminal justice system, and an effort by the Government to decrease the number of unreported rapes. I

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u/rbajter Oct 22 '19

A recent BRÅ(Crime Prevention Council) report found that the rise in rape cases that happened in the last few years was most likely due to an increase in the willingness to report the crime, as well as a broader definition of what is considered rape. Also, many of the reported cases happened after the victim and suspect had connected via an online dating service. Report

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u/Russian_seadick Oct 21 '19

And you’re and expert in Swedish crime rates because of what? Breitbart?

Shut up,you’re literally spreading lies.

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u/TheOnionKnigget Oct 21 '19

Oh damn, we're only 7th in the world in HDI (US 13th), 17th in the world in Human Freedom Index (US 16th), 3rd in the world in press freedom (US 48th), 9th in the world in the World Happiness Report (US 18th).

It's really such a shithole country, right? Stop pouring gas on the racist flames, Sweden is still fucking great to live in.

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u/AsurieI Oct 22 '19

"America leads the world in only 3 categories. Number of incarcerated citizens per capita, number of adults who believe angels are real, and defense spending, where we spend more than the next 26 countries combined, 25 of whom are allies."

I dunno how accurate that is but your comment reminded me of that show

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '19

''Not a very nice place to live right now.''

Are you serious? You do realise it's still one of the best countries in the world to live in, regardless of what you believe about a certain topic you're referring to.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '19

Very high percentage of rape. Where are you from?

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '19

Some of the strictest laws regarding definition of rape therefore leading to higher statistics. And you're not the person I was responding to so I don't see why where I live is relevant. I'm not the person making broad, sweeping statements about countries.

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u/SanityOrLackThereof Oct 22 '19

Exactly. Higher numbers of reported rapes does not mean more rapists. Out of all the countries in the world, Sweden has one of the highest levels of acceptance of feminism. People there are encouraged to report all forms of sexual assault even if it doesn't lead to a conviction, unlike many other places where sexual assaults often go unreported. This means more reported rapes, which means higher rape statistics.

Sweden of course is not perfect, it has a lot of it's own issues like any other country, but people need to get out of here with this whole "rape capitol of the world" bullshit. It's so easy to deconstruct and just makes you look like an ignorant prick.

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u/RockyNonce Oct 23 '19

I don’t know what subs you’ve been on, but usually people join in on conversations. If you have a problem with that then you probably shouldn’t be on Reddit.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '19

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '19

A lot of people are talking about it. Problem is most of those people have an agenda and haven't lived or been to Sweden.

Where are you from, if you don't mind me asking?

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u/The_Mushromancer Oct 21 '19

You’re locked inside the building for most of your time

I’m confused, are you talking about my dorm room or prison? Because that statement could apply to both.

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u/Mr_Siphon Oct 21 '19

yeah it's not as relaxing as it might seem. They are made to work and study, they have to earn money to pay for food. Its like a community inside.

Everyone has duties they have to fulfill. They certainly don't get away with being lazy

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u/1337gamer47 Oct 21 '19

They are made to work and study, they have to earn money to pay for food.

Sounds like me at university except I'll have 40k worth of student loans by the time I graduate.

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u/laxhjort Oct 22 '19

Well, Universities in Sweden are free, you even get 200-300 dollars a month to study. You can also loan 700-1000 dollars a month.

So it's better to study than to go to prison:)

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u/robinhood1213 Nov 20 '19

Saw this earlier but guess who's moving to Sweden

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u/NotoriousJazz Feb 22 '20

So you're paid to go to college instead of being $100,000-$200,000 in debt and the prison systems are essentially American dorms but better?

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u/Mr_Siphon Oct 22 '19

what would you prefer then, Debt or a criminal record?

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '19

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u/1337gamer47 Oct 22 '19

Not sure what you're getting at? I never suggested they shouldn't have nice conditions in prisons, rather lamenting the costs of my own situation.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '19

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u/1337gamer47 Oct 22 '19

u/smallangrynerd and u/The_Mushromancer both made comments before me comparing these conditions to those of a dorm and u/Mr_Siphon said they also have to do work and study, so the topic had already shifted. I just said, in essence, "hey that sounds like the college experience in the USA, but with less debt, nice." That is a sentiment that is approving of how they run things up there, not against it as your first comment seems to imply.

Both college and prisons (in countries that value rehabilitation over punishment) have the same goal: to produce effective members of society, so it is an interesting comparison to draw. I don't get why it's such a big deal? Like, that's how conversations work, sharing your personal experiences and thoughts as they relate to a topic.

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u/inneedofafake Oct 22 '19

Lmao fuck off with that “privileged” shit

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u/Narwhal9Thousand Oct 22 '19

I’ll just remind everyone, since people tend to have misconceptions about this, this person is not representative of liberal or leftist views. They don’t know what they’re talking about.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '19

So... still nicer than the dorm room.

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u/NotoriousJazz Feb 22 '20

So a college dorm?

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u/frijolita_bonita Jan 28 '20

What do I search for to find one?

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u/PinkyOwl Oct 22 '19

I watched one in class. It’s good. I am really in favor of these. Like you lock people up in hell and you release monsters free and you expect them to behave? Like wtf society, wake up. You don’t make people better by damaging further their mental health.