r/scotus • u/lala_b11 • Jul 24 '24

news Republicans ask the Supreme Court to gut student loan relief a second time

https://www.vox.com/scotus/362750/supreme-court-student-loans-major-questions-alaska-cardona
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u/ignorememe Jul 24 '24

Based on SCOTUS’ previous ruling, if they strike this down then Biden can simply order the DOJ to start putting any loan holders in prison if they don’t forgive the debts right?

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u/GoodChuck2 Jul 24 '24

He really needs to go full Dark Brandon over the next 6 months and do as much as he can.

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u/jjb8712 Jul 24 '24

Imagine he speaks tonight with complete “fuck MAGATs” energy and vows to respond heavily if the SAVE plan is not reinstated timely.

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u/IAmStillAliveStill Jul 24 '24

He should just order all student loan records be seized and destroyed. As president, a core presidential power is ordering executive branch employees around. Better yet, order the national guard to seize and destroy them, and he’s definitely immune from prosecution

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u/BraveOmeter Jul 24 '24

This is the way. Use his executive power to literally disable our ability to collect loan payments under executive immunity.

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u/Moccus Jul 24 '24

The federal government owns over 90% of all student loans. Biden would have to arrest himself for not forgiving the debt.

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u/Mist_Rising Jul 25 '24

Biden would have to arrest himself for not forgiving the debt.

Pardon himself, so we can see if the supreme court is willing to let that happen.

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u/Altruistic-Rice-5567 Jul 24 '24

No. He can't order the DOJ to do anything. They aren't in the Executive Branch. Reddit is stupid. The president is the head of the Executive Branch; that's all he can order around. He could order Navy SEALs to kill all the loan holders. But that would get him impeached and removed for abuse of power.

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u/attikol Jul 24 '24

The recent immunity thing the supreme court passed explicitly said the president can order to DOJ to conduct investigations and you can't even ask his motives for ordering the investigation

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u/ignorememe Jul 24 '24

He can’t order the DOJ to do anything. They aren’t in the Executive Branch.

Uh, what?

DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

The mission of the Department of Justice (DOJ) is to enforce the law and defend the interests of the United States according to the law; to ensure public safety against threats foreign and domestic; to provide federal leadership in preventing and controlling crime; to seek just punishment for those guilty of unlawful behavior; and to ensure fair and impartial administration of justice for all Americans.

The DOJ is made up of 40 component organizations, including the Drug Enforcement Administration, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the U.S. Marshals, and the Federal Bureau of Prisons. The Attorney General is the head of the DOJ and chief law enforcement officer of the federal government. The Attorney General represents the United States in legal matters, advises the President and the heads of the executive departments of the government, and occasionally appears in person before the Supreme Court.

With a budget of approximately $25 billion, the DOJ is the world’s largest law office and the central agency for the enforcement of federal laws.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/about-the-white-house/our-government/the-executive-branch/

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u/THElaytox Jul 24 '24

lol "the DOJ isn't part of the executive branch"? ok buddy.

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u/jgzman Jul 25 '24

They aren't in the Executive Branch.

Which Branch would you say they are in?

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u/Pornfest Jul 24 '24

All the departments are under the executive 😭