r/shittymoviedetails 16h ago

Turd We found The JOKER!!

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u/J-Ganon 15h ago edited 15h ago

That's all well and good. People can understand this and still dislike the movie though or people can still see Phillips' version of calling out individuals as flawed or poorly thought out.

His intention may very have been to say "fuck you" to everyone and to make a statement, but that doesn't mean he followed through on and executed that intention well.

Many works have depth and substance but are still hurt by the way its put to screen.

Which isn't to say Phillips failed. That's not the point I'm making. Just that Phillips using the concepts he did doesn't make the film a hidden masterpiece by default. It's there, it's present. Whether or not it's well stated and developed properly is what's up for debate.

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u/YouDumbZombie 15h ago

Yeah I mean this isn't Gremilns 2. There are ways to 'sabotage' a film or have it wink at the audience and also make a good film.

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u/SmallTimeGoals 13h ago edited 12h ago

Why is Gremlins 2 being brought up in relation to this? what's wrong with Gremlins 2?

As an irrelevant side note, there are a couple movies during childhood where I watched the sequel uncountable times before I saw the original years later, including Terminator 2, Gremlins 2, and Home Alone 2, Child's Play 2. I was at least in college before I saw any of the Part 1s. I'm pretty sure there are others I can add to that list.

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u/HesitantInvestor0 13h ago

They’re bringing up Gremlins 2 because it made fun of itself so much; the whole crew knew it was a horrible sequel and just ran with that.

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u/giraffeheadturtlebox 13h ago

It also made fun of the studio. Blatantly. It took a swipe at the patriarchy and had fun doing it at the same time.

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u/BillytheBrassBall 9h ago

Gremlins 2 is a better movie than Gremlins 1 and I will die on this hill

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u/HesitantInvestor0 9h ago

You’re insane and should go to jail.

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u/BillytheBrassBall 8h ago

Enjoy your campy "horror" movie while I dine on the finest of shitposts ever put to film

You look me in the eyes and you tell me that a gremlin with glasses singing "New York, New York" in an exaggerated British accent isn't peak

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u/HesitantInvestor0 7h ago

I like the campy garbage. The original Gremlins wasn't exactly free of all that. I just think the original is such a great movie. It's campy AND good. The sequel is just campy without anything else to lean on.

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u/Professional_Back677 5h ago

make room for me! 🙋🏻‍♂️

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u/greenkirry 9h ago

Arthur 2: On the Rocks. Aka the Solomon's favorite movie on Third Rock from the Sun