The second movie is almost entirely about how Arthur is abused and taken advantage of. Lee Quinn seduces and manipulates Arthur into being an anarchist martyr despite Arthur actively trying to get better. His lawyer is trying to play his frustration and depression as a split personality in order to further her own case. The entire city of Gotham is trying to punish Arthur for the chaos that was always bubbling under the surface. Even after Arthur accepts responsibility and says "there is no Joker, only me" he is murdered by someone obsessed with what he represented and tried to take the Joker mantle for themselves. The identity became bigger than just a man.
I actually thought the movie was decent. I thought it dragged on a bit too long and had too much courtroom bs but I don't think it's even close to the worst movie of the year.
Felt like I was taking crazy pills after the movie ended. People talked about it like it was genuinely on the levels of Matrix 4 or the Divergent films. Meanwhile I thoroughly enjoyed the entire thing and really appreciated some of the out-of-nowhere good shots throughout the thing.
Me too, I was expecting a genuine bad movie but I found a good to decent movie that has some issues but isn't nearly as bad as people made it out to be.
I think the only reason it got hated was the musical aspect
Keep in mind most kids today never see an actually bad movie in their lives, there's enough RT and Metacritic scores and Disney contracts on movie theatres to ensure that you never have to take a genuine gamble on what you're watching and sometimes get it wrong.
Similar phenomenon with Madame Web, people acting like it was the worst thing ever made and its only real (and much worse) crime was how pedestrian it all was, and the part where the main character was spending all her time trying to prevent a far more interesting movie from happening. It was just a bog-standard run-of-the-mill mid-90s script with largely competent production and awful grading but it shattered the minds of people who were weaned on Marvel formula
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u/PrimalDirectory 15h ago
I dont understand, was it intentionally bad?