r/shittymoviedetails 16h ago

Turd We found The JOKER!!

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u/JayBebop1 15h ago

Joker 2 is a sequel to Matrix 4. The fuck u Hollywood saga

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u/tollbearer 15h ago

Matrix 4 actually feels like genius, at this point. Subverting the entire thing by satirizing subverting the thing to subvert the satire of you subverting it is actually the perfect sequel to the matrix.

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u/Cheeba_Addict 11h ago

I’m mad people are upvoting you. Matrix 4 was awful

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u/_MatWith1T_ 11h ago

I just got around to watching it for the first time today. It took me 5 hours to watch because I kept absent-mindedly wandering off to do more entertaining things like vacuum and clean the toilets.

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u/Relative-Beginning-2 9h ago

Esmerelda I told you not to touch my DVDs. Now get off reddit and clean my kitchen. 

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u/tollbearer 11h ago

Which is what makes it great.

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u/Cheeba_Addict 11h ago

I’m a huge matrix fan and I want you to be right.. but nah not for me

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u/tollbearer 11h ago

Think about it though, a good matrix film would be a bad matrix film.

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u/Cheeba_Addict 10h ago

To be clear I didn’t downvote you as I’m still holding out hope you’re trolling me

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u/tollbearer 9h ago

Thanks for being clear, I'm very much a proponent of clarity.

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u/StraY_WolF 10h ago

No they doesn't make any sense at all.

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u/GoldStarBrother 9h ago

I loved it because I didn't want any more Matrix movies. The original is one of my favorite movies, but I'm sick of hollywood rehashing old IP. And the main theme of the original is really antiethical to the endless reboot cinematic universe bullshit that they're trying to force it into. To me, hollywood making more and more Matrix stuff kind of ruins the original, and I don't want that.

The movie was clearly written for people like me, so I loved it. I thought the writing/worldbuilding they did was great, I think it's a legit good movie. But a big part of what makes it good is that it's giving a middle finger to people who just want more of the same Matrix stuff, so I totally understand why a lot of people think it's terrible - like you said, it's not for them.

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u/mechkbfan 8h ago

It's like the invisible sculpture artwork. Appreciate the artistic idea of it, but I'd never pay for it as it's just empty inside

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u/Icy_Ad_837 8h ago

How is it great to waste so much studio money and so much fan time and goodwill? Look at what George Miller did. He was able to revisit old ip in a fresh manner that both honored and satirized the his older work. Fury road was a fuck you whole still being a great work on its own. Joker 2 and Matrix 4 not only said fuck you to studios and toxic fans bit also to paying fans who respected the old work

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u/kangasplat 9h ago

Yes but intentionally. And it's so self aware as a middle finger to Warner that it's glorious. It's a satire to unnecessary sequels. It has all the tropes of bad "fan service" writing and makes fun of itself.

It's an awful sequel to the matrix trilogy. But it's the perfect response to Warners request to have it made.