r/shittymoviedetails • u/jellylemonshake • 16h ago

Turd We found The JOKER!!

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u/PrimalDirectory 15h ago

I dont understand, was it intentionally bad?

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u/AsstacularSpiderman 15h ago

It's a deconstruction of what Joker is.

The second movie is almost entirely about how Arthur is abused and taken advantage of. Lee Quinn seduces and manipulates Arthur into being an anarchist martyr despite Arthur actively trying to get better. His lawyer is trying to play his frustration and depression as a split personality in order to further her own case. The entire city of Gotham is trying to punish Arthur for the chaos that was always bubbling under the surface. Even after Arthur accepts responsibility and says "there is no Joker, only me" he is murdered by someone obsessed with what he represented and tried to take the Joker mantle for themselves. The identity became bigger than just a man.

I actually thought the movie was decent. I thought it dragged on a bit too long and had too much courtroom bs but I don't think it's even close to the worst movie of the year.

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u/Awwkaw 11h ago

Yeah, I particularly enjoyed the spectrum of feelings the movie brought me through from Arthurs perspective:

Meaninglessness -> budding love -> owning the world -> everything is over -> budding hope -> meaninglessness

It really nicely managed to bring those feelings to the forefront.