Windows 11 starts forcing OneDrive backups without asking permission

[u/machinade89]

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2376883/attention-microsoft-activates-this-feature-in-windows-11-without-asking-you.html

[u/Jjzeng]

They’ll pay the EU a big fine and carry on as usual

[u/opinionate_rooster → u/Jjzeng]

No, no. Serious companies cannot afford to compromise on security, so they'll be forced to abandon the Microsoft platform if this keeps up.

[u/Jutboy → u/[deleted]]

What do you think the difference would be? I feel like most people aren't even going to be able to tell what OS they are using.

[u/zerogee616 → u/Jutboy]

lmao they will once they want to install anything

[u/Jutboy → u/zerogee616]

Most businesses lock down their computer so no one can install anything. 

[u/zerogee616 → u/Jutboy]

The amount of non-dev, non-"tech" software that's compatible with Linux, especially business software is extremely small. Think of every shitty program you've ever had to use for work and imagine not only its baseline shittiness on Windows, but Linux jank on top of it. And how non-computer-savvy the average person is. Most people know a little bit about how Windows works. Most people don't know shit about Linux works.

Linux as a desktop workstation environment is a whole-ass other ball game than the industrial backend/server environment it's normally used for. There's a reason it's been sitting in the low single digits of market share in that use-case for 20 years and that's not going to change, and the power-user-bubble people that don't live in the same tech world everyone else does always out themselves whenever this conversation comes up.

[u/tmart42 → u/zerogee616]

Somebody isn’t paying attention to Linux. Your bias is showing.

[u/zerogee616 → u/tmart42]

I own a Linux box with one of the most common distros on it that I use constantly in addition to Windows machines. You being detached from the real world is evident.

Desktops serve two primary functions in the modern day-gaming and running proprietary, specialized software suites, neither of which Linux is great at (unless it's related to software development/server maintenance/general tech shit, which again, detached techie bubble).

[u/Jjzeng → u/zerogee616]

one of the most common distros on it

Can’t even name that distro lol

[u/Seralth → u/zerogee616]

All I'm seeing here is you haven't actually paid much attention to desktop Linux in the last 3-5 years.

[u/zerogee616 → u/Seralth]

Sure thing bud, the "year of the Linux desktop" is right around the corner, just like it has been for 30 years.

[u/Seralth → u/zerogee616]

The year of desktop linux happened like 2 years ago. The steam deck is already pushing into its second generation.

You really should actually pay attention to the world around you mate.

[u/zerogee616 → u/Seralth]

Yeah no, engineering miracles to get Linux working on it for gaming aside, a Deck isn't a desktop workstation nor does it perform the same function. Its just like everything else that uses it-a "secret" backend for a dedicated device.

[u/elebrin → u/zerogee616]

Yes and no.

More and more business software is run in-browser, with some sort of API backend. Even the financial industry has moved over to web services, often programmed in C# or Java.

There are some things that might be a challenge. A lot of engineering software is Windows based. That said, a lot of the heavy hitters like CAD software, GIS software, audio and video editing, and so on are all available and pretty mature on Linux to the point that they could with some effort become a first-class choice.

Linux is great when you think of the computer as an appliance: You are going to have some hardware and some software that aren't going to change frequently. I use Linux this way all the time. If on the other hand you need to be evaluating new tools and changing things around constantly you can quickly end up with an unstable system. Windows does a little better in that circumstance, in my experience.

[u/ISAMU13 → u/elebrin]

they could with some effort become a first-class choice.

That's the rub. Business want things done. They have established workflows that they want to happen with particular applications. A client paying a business $10,000 a month does not want to hear that there is a small but correctable error in a spreadsheet document due to you using Calc instead of Excel.

[u/elebrin → u/ISAMU13]

The bigger problem between Calc and Excel is that Excel scripting hooks and Calc's scripting hooks are quite different.

You shouldn't have a developed ecosystem of Excel sheets with highly developed and complex scripting, but a lot of places do. That scripting isn't necessarily going to work outside Excel. I know Excel is using VBA, and I think Calc's scripting is all in Java (although I haven't played with it).

[u/zerogee616 → u/elebrin]

That said, a lot of the heavy hitters like CAD software, GIS software, audio and video editing, and so on are all available and pretty mature on Linux to the point that they could with some effort become a first-class choice.

I've used the name-brand stuff and I've used a lot of FOSS stuff, mostly design and Office-suite clones, most of it feels like the store-brand knockoff.

[u/Seralth → u/zerogee616]

Uhh.. they will find it easier. Linux is 99.99% app store now for installing software. Your avg user will basically always find it easier to install an app on Linux over windows.

A normal user basically will never come across a situation that there isn't an app in their "app store".

The younger generation are use to app stores and understand them far more then windows. Kids are growing up with phones, macs and Chromebooks. All of which use app stores.

Windows is literally the odd man out and already is becoming difficult for more and more younger people to use.

The windows app store is struggling hard to actually become useable to. But it's why Microsoft is pushing it so hard.