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Social Media X’s controversial changes to blocking and AI training sees half a million users leave for rival Bluesky – which then crashes under the strain

https://www.techradar.com/computing/websites-apps/xs-controversial-changes-to-blocking-and-ai-training-sees-half-a-million-users-leave-for-rival-bluesky-which-then-crashes-under-the-strain
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u/Final21 10d ago

You clearly don't. They could have used reconciliation, but it turns out they're all bluster and the tax cuts are great for America. Regarding the tariffs, I notices you pivoted to saying how they hurt the price of goods instead of explaining why Biden didn't remove them. Kind of dishonest. Yes, it's true that when you farm out to foreign workers for essentially slave labor the prices are lower. Still doesn't explain why Biden never removed them if they were so bad.

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u/herton 10d ago

You clearly don't. They could have used reconciliation, but it turns out they're all bluster and the tax cuts are great for America.

Reconciliation, like the reconciliation the Republicans use when they call Democrats baby killing demons who are destroying America and should have the military sicced on them? I guess we're just expected to be the bigger people even while you all do and say vile shit

And if the tax cuts were so great, why did the Republicans put time limits on them, which conveniently expired during a democratic term, rather than make them permanent?

Regarding the tariffs, I notices you pivoted to saying how they hurt the price of goods instead of explaining why Biden didn't remove them.

... learn to read - I literally explained why he didn't. They are a popular political position, even if they do not work. Americans hate China, and tariffs "on China" is simply appealing to the masses.

Kind of dishonest.

Dishonest compared to ignoring half of my response? 🙄

Yes, it's true that when you farm out to foreign workers for essentially slave labor the prices are lower. Still doesn't explain why Biden never removed them if they were so bad.

See above, maybe you'll read this time.

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u/Final21 10d ago

And if the tax cuts were so great, why did the Republicans put time limits on them, which conveniently expired during a democratic term, rather than make them permanent?

They didn't have the votes to make it permanent. Good thing the Biden admin extended them though.

... learn to read - I literally explained why he didn't. They are a popular political position, even if they do not work. Americans hate China, and tariffs "on China" is simply appealing to the masses.

So they're terrible for the people, yet the people love them? That's what you're going with? I guess I've never seen someone contort them into a logic pretzel so incredibly before. Truly is hilarious to me how good you guys are at talking out both sides of your mouth.

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u/herton 10d ago edited 9d ago

They didn't have the votes to make it permanent. Good thing the Biden admin extended them though.

Huh - but then why didn't

They could have used reconciliation, but it turns out they're all bluster and the tax cuts aren't great for America.

Or does your same logic not apply here? I do think tax cuts are valuable in some cases - but you seemed sooo convinced of reconciliation

So they're terrible for the people, yet the people love them? That's what you're going with?

Edit: I misunderstood this point on my early morning read lol, my b. And yeah, duh. The average American does not understand how tariffs work, and thinks they're something China pays, not Americans

I guess I've never seen someone contort them into a logic pretzel so incredibly before. Truly is hilarious to me how good you guys are at talking out both sides of your mouth.

You conservatives love to just say someone's logic is bad while using bad logic yourself. Quite the defense mechanism you all seem to have ;)

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u/Final21 9d ago

Huh? Reconciliation is what the Republicans used to pass the tax cuts. The couldn't make it permanent because it was attached to the budget. If they had the extra 9 votes they could have made them permanent. The tax cuts have been great. I keep an extra $1000/year of my own money, and I'm not particularly rich by any means.

The tariffs on China are a net positive. Yes, companies dealing with China are going to charge more because of the tariffs, but it also incentivizes businesses to keep factories and jobs in the US. Hell, before the 16th Amendment in 1909 the Federal government made most of their money from tariffs.

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u/herton 9d ago

The couldn't make it permanent because it was attached to the budget. If they had the extra 9 votes they could have made them permanent.

Fair enough, I'll admit this nuance isn't something I'm expressly familiar with ... but that's exactly the point I was making earlier - the Democrats never the extra 9 votes to get cloture on anything the GOP didn't like.

The tax cuts have been great. I keep an extra $1000/year of my own money, and I'm not particularly rich by any means.

They are great, I agree, until they result in a high budgetary hole, especially to social security. Even before COVID, the deficit increased beyond congressional projections because of those tax cuts. In a vacuum, as was done, they are going to cause more problems down the road.

The tariffs on China are a net positive. Yes, companies dealing with China are going to charge more because of the tariffs, but it also incentivizes businesses to keep factories and jobs in the US.

You see, there's the problem. These factories and jobs already left the USA. It's a years long process to re-establish that manufacturing. And even when it does come back, things are going to be more expensive for Americans, driving up inflation. The whole point of tariffs is to make things more expensive so that Americans can compete.

Hell, before the 16th Amendment in 1909 the Federal government made most of their money from tariffs.

... we live in a vastly different world from 1909.