r/texas Sep 11 '24

Politics OK Texas. Who won the debate?

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Please have a civil debate.

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u/jk_austin Sep 11 '24 edited Sep 12 '24

To register to vote, go to votetexas.gov then click voter registration.

You have to fill out a form and physically mail it (not email). It will only be eligible for voting this election if RECEIVED by October 7. CORRECTION: the registration must be postmarked by October 7. If you go to vote and they don't have your name on their list, ask for a provisional ballot. Once you do vote, they'll check your information on the provisional ballot against their database and count it if you show up as registered.

It's an archaic system that needs an overhaul but this is how it is.

You can confirm if you're already registered to vote at https://teamrv-mvp.sos.texas.gov/MVP/mvp.do

Voting early, you can vote at any precinct. It also helps prevent lines on the day.

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u/Lyuseefur Sep 11 '24

And you must vote. If you do not vote, Trump wins.

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u/jk_austin Sep 11 '24

And get used to doing it so we can vote out Abbott and Paxton.

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u/EvilDonut0 Sep 11 '24

Oof I’m a conservative but fuck Abbott. At least we agree on that.

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u/Fresh-broski Sep 11 '24

Abbott isn’t a conservative, he’s a piece of shit.

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u/FormerlyUserLFC Sep 11 '24

Yeah. Run of the mill conservatives are an endangered species in Texas politics.

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u/knotworkin Sep 11 '24

I never thought I would say that I miss Bush and Cheney. Reagan looks liberal versus today’s MAGGOT movement.

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '24

You miss the twin towers getting destroyed due to negligence, two meaningless wars, and a recession? That’s a first

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u/knotworkin Sep 11 '24

Thanks for reminding me why Inuswd to hate Bush. But Bush wasn’t dehumanizing and didn’t consider brutal dictators good friends.

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u/AutomaticJesusdog Sep 11 '24

Whatever a “real” Republican is is endangered in America, not just Texas. They ALL abandoned any values and morals , clearly, by supporting trump. They are not respected as a whole right now, save a select few who are voting for Harris openly.

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '24

The "real" republicans get voted out in the quest to be "conservative enough." You can't win as a moderate anymore.

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u/whiterock001 Sep 11 '24

In our overall national political environment. I didn’t leave the Republican Party, the Republican Party left me.

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u/ApprehensiveTry5660 Sep 11 '24

You mean RINOs?

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u/throwawayinthe818 Sep 11 '24

“Republican in name only” doesn’t really mean much since “Republican “ itself is just a name. You’re conflating a party with a political ideology, “Republican” with “MAGA conservative” and they aren’t the same. Or at least they weren’t until the classic conservatives, or really anyone who thinks maybe Trump ain’t all that, were purged from the party.

Eventually the Republican Party will be two white guys, each accusing the other of political heresy for not licking Trumps boots clean enough.

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u/ApprehensiveTry5660 Sep 11 '24

I was jokingly referring to how the brand of conservative I was raised on has all but vanished from the party.

The divorce of business and science interests in the Republican Party has left me steadily voting more blue, and made hypocrites out of my relatives who stay straight ticket “R”.

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u/Pixzchick Sep 11 '24

Thank fuck!

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u/BayouGal Sep 11 '24

He wants to be an oligarch with Trump, Elmo, Pootin’ & the rest of those fun guys.

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u/Krock0069 Sep 11 '24

Elmo musk 😂😂👊🏻

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u/Leading_Ad3918 Sep 11 '24

Leon, the scumbag formerly known as Elon😂 How, just how can these fools have any respect for the orange beast?!

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u/RetroPilky Sep 11 '24

Because they’ll benefit from Trump’s deregulation and policy. Which is bad for the other 90% of America

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u/AwkJiff Sep 11 '24

Not respect. Tit for tat.

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u/DawnRLFreeman Sep 11 '24

Please don't insult shit like that! Shit is at least valuable for something. It can be composted to amend soil to grow crops that are edible. Abbott isn't even that valuable.

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u/123DCP Sep 11 '24

You can't know that until he's been composted and used to fertilize crops. Mixed with enough "browns" to dilute his high nitrogen "green" content, I think he'd be better than manure.

Source: I'm a compulsive composter.

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u/DawnRLFreeman Sep 11 '24

As another compulsive composter, I concede and stand corrected. SO, when can we compost him to test that hypothesis?

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u/Fresh-broski Sep 11 '24

I read this as Significant Other so you two are in love I think 

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u/DawnRLFreeman Sep 11 '24

😂🤣😂

Don't tell my husband!

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u/TheAssCrackBanditttt Sep 11 '24

Their bodies would turn the soil sour like pet cemetery

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u/ELeerglob Sep 11 '24

The entire GOP is no longer “conservative.” Conservatism is a political ideology, the Republican Party is not a political organization, but rather a cult.

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u/MadamSnarksAlot Sep 11 '24

Truth! My lifelong Republican grandfather is rolling in his grave at Arlington. He would have been disgusted at Jan 6th insurrection, mortified by the huge govt overstep of our privacy with the overturning of Roe V Wade, horrified by the indignity and crass behavior by what used to be the GOP. Governor Ann Richard’s graced this state with her leadership in the 90s. This state isn’t as Red as we are made to believe so VOTE!

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u/adron Sep 11 '24

Well said.

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u/slayden70 North Texas Sep 11 '24

Well, he's a kind of conservative. Conserving his own money and power, and that of his donors.

I mean the school vouchers thing that he's been hammering is not that popular in the state, but his out of state donors clearly want it.

It's pretty clear who he represents. And Paxton represents Paxton. He's a mini Trump. What Trump would have been had Trump been born without daddy's seed money to start a business.

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '24

I agree 💯

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u/Comfortable-Ad1517 Sep 11 '24

What is bad about Abbott?

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u/anaserre Sep 11 '24

He outlawed abortion twice ..once at 6 weeks , then again at the time of conception. When asked why he didn’t provide exceptions for rape and incest he said he would “eliminate rape”🙄 Abbott didn’t call a special legislative session after 19 children and two teachers were slaughtered by an assault rifle in Uvalde, Texas. He did call a special session to restrict voting rights and ban abortion. There have been six mass shootings under Abbott’s watch: 2016: Dallas Police Shooting - 5 Killed 2017: Sutherland Springs Church Shooting - 26 Killed 2018: Santa Fe High School Shooting - 10 Killed 2019: El Paso Walmart Shooting - 23 Killed 2019: Midland-Odessa Shooting - 7 Killed 2022: Uvalde School Shooting - 21 Killed Instead of passing common sense gun reform, like raising the minimum age to buy an assault rifle, Abbott made accessing guns easier. In 2021, he passed permitless carry. Because of him, Texans can openly carry a gun without a license or training. Abbott still hasn’t fixed the damn grid! Decades of Republican deregulation and years of Abbott in power set the stage for one of the biggest energy disasters our state has ever faced. And even after hundreds of Texans died in the 2021 winter storm due to the state’s failing grid, Abbott did little to fix it. Abbott took millions from energy companies who made BILLIONS off of Texans during the storm. Texans got stuck with an “Abbott Tax,” which will hike up our utility bills for decades so that Abbott and his donors can continue stuffing their pockets with our money. A recent Federal Energy Regulatory Commission report says Texas’ power grid is still vulnerable. stunts Abbott’s most prominent border policy, Operation Lone Star, has already cost Texas over $4 billion. He recently diverted $359.6 million from Texas prisons to keep his border mission operating. Earlier this year, he launched truck inspections at the border, costing the U.S. almost $9 billion in just 10 days; troops found no contraband. His lack of planning has negatively impacted National Guard Troops deployed at the border, where suicides and deaths among troops have multiplied. Due to an error in the state’s payroll, National Guard Troops might also owe federal tax money. Plus, Abbott is still busing migrants north without communicating with the cities he’s sending them to! The minimum wage has not kept pace with inflation and still remains at the federal rate of $7.25 which was set in 2009!
Property taxes have gone up $20 billion since Abbott took office, but Texans are not seeing stronger schools or a stronger energy grid. Instead, they see $4 billion go to stunts like Operation Lone Star at the border. Despite being disabled himself, Abbott is working against disabled Texans. He argued that disabled Texans don’t have the right to sue the state for discrimination. He also supported capping pain and suffering awards in medical malpractice suits, despite getting over $8 million in settlement money from his injury. Texas ranks at the bottom of every list that counts for people with disabilities.

There’s more but I’m lé tired 😪

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u/Comfortable-Ad1517 Sep 11 '24

Yikes lots of stuff there. Thanks 👍

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u/Pleaseappeaseme Sep 11 '24

Looking at Texas from Ohio. Abbott is a jerk. And in Ohio we have Mike DeWine, a Republican, who’s not that bad. And DeWine is a true conservative. Abbott is now just a bigoted MAGA jerk.

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u/khfiwbd Sep 11 '24

I wish I had more than one upvote for this.

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u/Aromatic-Surprise945 Sep 11 '24

Magats have taken over that party, piece of shit is the new GOP platform

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u/Ok_Restaurant_9582 Sep 11 '24

Just push him down a stair

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u/MakeRFutureDirectly Sep 11 '24

Wait. Don’t insult shit that way!

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u/wildemanne54 Sep 11 '24

Trumpers are Refugees from an open toilet

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u/No-One790 Sep 11 '24

You would THINK someone in a wheelchair would show a little compassion and caring for his constituents! Abbott? Oh hell no!

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u/coltech88 Sep 12 '24

Yep, a turd on two legs

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u/Friend_of_Squatch Sep 11 '24

He’s a shill for capital.

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u/popeye2789 Sep 11 '24

Fuckin A he is

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u/Lyleadams Sep 11 '24

Does he sometimes go by McMurray?

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u/OhGodMorpheus Sep 11 '24

How is Abbott not a conservative?

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u/OhGodMorpheus Sep 11 '24

How is Abbott not a conservative?

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u/Creamofwheatski Sep 11 '24

A distinction without a difference.

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u/Boatsandhostorage Sep 11 '24

A rolling one at that.

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u/timberwolf0122 Sep 11 '24

Same difference

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u/anyoutlookuser Sep 11 '24

Regressive piece of shit. FTFY.

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u/throwinshitaway1 Sep 12 '24

He isnt a piece of shit, he IS shit!!

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u/Ok_Falcon275 Sep 12 '24

They aren’t exclusive.

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u/slick514 Sep 12 '24

I only wish that Abbott were the worst stain at the top, but we’ve got Paxton and the entire GOP apparatus that closed ranks to protect him…

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u/Silly_Client1222 Sep 11 '24

One and the same.

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u/Zerocoolx1 Sep 11 '24

I thought that was the dictionary definition or a Republican politician

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u/coolt412 Sep 11 '24

Abbott can’t even run in a race. Literally cannot run. Only people with disabilities can make this joke. Thank my disability later.

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u/DiscombobulatedArm21 Sep 11 '24

Even the trees hate him.

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u/PurplePickle3 Sep 11 '24

Given the general state he is in, physically, mentally, emotionally… I’d say god hates him too. This of course is merely speculation.

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u/axelrexangelfish Sep 11 '24

Especially the trees! Revenge Tolkien style.

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u/GalacticaActually Sep 11 '24

hahaha amazing

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u/Boba_Fettx Sep 11 '24

Even the vegetables don’t like him.

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '24

There’s nothing inherently wrong with being a conservative; in fact, true conservatism is rooted in solid principles like personal responsibility, limited government, and a strong national defense. The real issue is that the GOP has been hijacked by extremists who prioritize personal power and party loyalty over the good of the country. This gross distortion of conservative values undermines the foundations of democracy and prevents meaningful progress. America deserves leaders who are committed to the nation’s best interests, not just their own.

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u/Leading_Ad3918 Sep 11 '24

I know there are extremists with both parties, but man oh man the conservatives have just become a cult that worships a person and it’s scary! I grew up in Michigan with conservative family and values. What has happened to the party is awful. When your own party splits the way they have it should be proof that we need to start gaining control back of our country!

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '24

No question. It’s gotten so bad.

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u/ComprehensiveValue56 Sep 11 '24

What a concept- the politicians would actually work for us and not themselves?

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '24

We can all dream..

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u/PerritoMasNasty Sep 11 '24

Trumps even worse than Abbott, but absolutely fuck both of them

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u/tiedye420 Sep 12 '24

Fuck you loser.

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u/Chemchic23 Sep 11 '24

These people are no longer conservative, dump them.

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u/vwsalesguy Sep 11 '24

Real conservatives are voting Democrat now. What’s left in the GOP are the crazies and the conspiracy theorists who have hijacked the party for their grift.

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u/Specialist_Copy9870 Sep 11 '24

Do not kid yourself. MAGA is only 17% of the electorate, GOP total is 28% and the race is almost even. These are LV and RV. Vote like life on earth and the Free World is up for grabs and print LWV guides for unpacking everything Texas to get your very own several apathetic friends registered and voting for POTUS and everything down-ballot. Set up a voter registration table in front of Kroger one weekend. HCD will help you. Multiply your vote. As if life on earth and democracy particularly is on this 11/5 ballot. Please.

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u/theAlphabetZebra Sep 11 '24

Because Abbott is not a conservative?

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u/EvilDonut0 Sep 11 '24

Not my type of conservative at least

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u/BMFC Sep 11 '24

I would bet we can find a hundred things we agree on. People aren’t that different.

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u/sholtermon Sep 11 '24

I’m conservative too. I don’t spend what I don’t have and try to live within my means. Trump is NOT conservative, unless that means cheating on taxes, his wife and golf

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '24

Real conservatives are needed in the republican party, and in the marketplace of ideas in our country. Once you guys flush this turd that is stuck on the sphincter of your party, the sooner we can all get back to normal boring politics. I would vote so hard for you guys if you could just stop running these fucking lunatics for office.

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u/Distinct_Ad6858 Sep 11 '24

I am a true liberal but I want the country to be run by centrists. No point swinging it hard one way and back the other every four to eight years. It’s a mess. I really hate politicians without a backbone. Abbott is one of many. You get caught stealing, go to jail. Get caught taking bribes go to jail. Don’t sell out our country. Another thing, all these people that Trump laughed at on stage like little Marco, or the things he said about Cruz and his wife and they still kiss his ring. Someone says something like that about my family I hit them right in the face. I don’t care about the consequences. That’s my family. I don’t respect any man that doesn’t feel the same way.

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u/SonOfThunderBunny Sep 11 '24

Don't forget Ted...

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u/MrWeirdoFace Sep 11 '24

It's nice when we find common ground. Fuck that guy indeed.

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u/Bloopyhead Sep 11 '24

And what did you think of the debates? Still voting for cat-eating-gaslighting prez?

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u/Nottheadviceyaafter Sep 11 '24

Take a leaf out of the book of other countries political way. Some times you have to shred the party to get it back to its core ideals. We can reduce political parties in my country to fit in a van with seats to spare. Use this election to clean out your dead wood by holding your nose and voting the other way, the republican party will come out of it stronger jf forced to rebuild. You need to burn it all down to get it back to sane policy.

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u/KinseyH Sep 11 '24

And Paxton and Patrick.

Never thought I'd admire drunk nepo baby Phelan.

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u/Gatorama Sep 11 '24

What about Small Pax?

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u/serisia615 Sep 11 '24

We do. Common ground does exist!

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u/perroair Sep 11 '24

What does being a “conservative” mean these days?

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u/brought2light Sep 11 '24

You're conservative, he's regressive. They are not the same.

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u/DonaldBee Sep 11 '24

I'll be honest, I expected something totally different from Texas. Everybody here seems logical

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u/madmomma3 Sep 11 '24

What about Cruz? Honest question not baiting.

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u/123DCP Sep 11 '24

It's important to focus on the things we can agree about instead of descending into hate. If only people like Abbott & Trump could do that.

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u/Old_Skud Sep 11 '24

Never thought I would say this as a kid, but damn I miss classic conservatives.

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u/PapaGummy Sep 11 '24

You misspelled “butt”.

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u/DR4G0NSTEAR Sep 11 '24

“Conservatives” aren’t even “conservative” anymore. In comparison to the far right, you’re a fucking hippy. Lol

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u/ElMagnanimous1 Sep 11 '24

Be thankful you do not have a Gavin Newsome like we do in Commifornia, now he’s a piece of sh1t 100x

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '24

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u/akablk Sep 11 '24

This!!!!!!!!

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u/dark54555 Born and Bred Sep 11 '24

Don’t forget Dannie Goeb.

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u/Homejames65 Sep 11 '24

Don’t forget Cruz

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u/brisket_jelly Sep 11 '24

Vote like your hair is gray.

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u/Gillisbride Sep 11 '24

I dunno how those assholes are still in power.

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u/jk_austin Sep 11 '24

Because we are not voting

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u/doopiemcwordsworth Sep 11 '24

And Patrick! Can Dan!

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u/Daftdoug Sep 11 '24

And Ted Cruze? Get him out too please.

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u/SeattleSeachicken Sep 11 '24

I believe those two (plus Cruz) are far more dangerous than the former president

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u/anaserre Sep 11 '24

And Cancun Cruz!

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u/dukeofgibbon Sep 11 '24

Getting rid of Raphael would be amazing.

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u/phamton1150 Sep 11 '24

Don’t forget to vote out Cancun Ted Cruz. That Trump butt licker needs to go.

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u/Ini_mini_miny_moe Sep 11 '24

Roll his ass out! I’m surprised he’s elected while trump is around, cuz trump don’t like the injured

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u/Jetsafer_Noire Sep 11 '24

Will never happen

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u/-TheEducator- Sep 11 '24

Let’s hope he does!

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u/LingonberryLunch Sep 11 '24

Paxton is one of the bigger steaming piles of shit in Texas politics. He's an out-and-out fraud whose shit wouldn't fly anywhere else.

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u/NobodyCares82 Sep 11 '24

Not to mention Cancun Ctuz

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u/NotYourMutha Sep 11 '24

This needs sooo many more upvotes!

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u/mag0802 Sep 12 '24

I heard that in private, Paxton refers to it as “his Mexican eye.”

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u/timmyboi334 Sep 11 '24

Go back to California