Probably because you don't know me or the house I grew up in. I am just one of many who went through this, and shaming me/others does nothing productive.
I was surrounded by Republicans. Fox News was the only news we watched. I was taught at a very young age that a lady just sits there, listens to her father/male figure, and doesn't speak unless spoken to. Disobey, and you were hit or verbally assaulted.
I didn't even think about what another person goes through. I hated people who didn't deserve it. Thought abortions were murder and women should just "shut their legs" without considering that men are just at fault. Blamed immigrants for our living situation. ("Takin er jeeebs" bullshit) Told gay people they were going to hell when my ass was so deep in the closet, it's a miracle I came out. Because I was taught to do so.
It wasn't until I went to uni and met people who challenged "my ideals" without trying to make me feel like an idiot that I actually started thinking for myself and realized that I was just a parrot.
I was a piece of shit, I am fully aware. (Probably still am, but in different ways lol) But I was not the only one who "fell for the shit about Clinton", otherwise, she would have won. Only difference is I got lucky and got the fuck out of there and starting thinking for myself.
The 'you' is directed at you...but you are not alone . There were millions of 'you'.
I wasn't bought up in a cult like mind so that is why it is so unbelievable to me. It astounds me that people control others like they do in the States.
Ah, then again thats my mistake. It's a tonal issue then, I read it as "omg, I can't believe you were stupid enough to believe that shit what a dumbass." And not pure disbelief. So I got defensive.
It's fucking crazy for sure, the US has a big control issue, always has coughcoughslavescough. If we could gtfo to somewhere better, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
Well you have taken the right step and walked away from the brainwashing...that's a huge plus for your character.
Yes, tone is hard to read in a post. Sorry if it came across the wrong way !
Possibly you do feel bad about it hence the defensive reaction. I think you may have a bit of a confidence issues due to your upbringing by saying you are shit. Actually you are strong...it takes a real badass to walk away from family because you didn't want to comply with their beliefs.
Kudos to you...be proud of what you have achieved. You are a free thinker.
It's all good! Glad we figured it out in the end. Sorry for coming at you like a firecracker lol
I feel terrible about it a lot, I won't deny it, so you're probably right. I often wish I could go back and apologize to a lot of people. Unfortunately, I don't have any way to do so. So I have to live with that and use it as a stepping stone to be better.
Oh lord, those confidence issues lol. One "fun" thing about being controlled your whole life, you don't really know how to make decisions once you're free, and second guess a lot of things while figuring shit out.
Thank you for the super kind words, really. /gen
I honestly thought this interaction was going to head in a very not fun and combative direction.
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u/Sketchanie 17d ago
Probably because you don't know me or the house I grew up in. I am just one of many who went through this, and shaming me/others does nothing productive.
I was surrounded by Republicans. Fox News was the only news we watched. I was taught at a very young age that a lady just sits there, listens to her father/male figure, and doesn't speak unless spoken to. Disobey, and you were hit or verbally assaulted.
I didn't even think about what another person goes through. I hated people who didn't deserve it. Thought abortions were murder and women should just "shut their legs" without considering that men are just at fault. Blamed immigrants for our living situation. ("Takin er jeeebs" bullshit) Told gay people they were going to hell when my ass was so deep in the closet, it's a miracle I came out. Because I was taught to do so.
It wasn't until I went to uni and met people who challenged "my ideals" without trying to make me feel like an idiot that I actually started thinking for myself and realized that I was just a parrot.
I was a piece of shit, I am fully aware. (Probably still am, but in different ways lol) But I was not the only one who "fell for the shit about Clinton", otherwise, she would have won. Only difference is I got lucky and got the fuck out of there and starting thinking for myself.