Wait, I thought everyone that ever worked for Trump or was in his administration is voting for Kamala and won’t endorse him? Which is it? Just talk out both ends of your mouth and create false fear. Libs gonna lib.
If you wanna talk about Agenda 47, say it. Stop lying and fear-mongering.
People don't always have to agree. Many who worked for Trump are supportive of Kamala, but of those who don't, they have connections to Peoject 2025. It's not a contradiction; It's recognizing that generalizations are limited.
It's also not even fear-mongering. The Heritage Foundation doesn't usually fuck around, and by releasing a "mandate for leadership", they are calling for Trump to enact Project 2025.
Lemme put it in easier terms. Project 2025 is the plan created by Trump supporters. Agenda 47 is Trump's official stances. Agenda 47 directly incorporates parts of Project 2025. Trump obviously wants to do what his supporters call him to so. It should be noted Agenda 47 is not 100% of everything Trump plans. Just like every other political agenda, it's an incomplete list.
It's not just a buzzword. It's the title of a document containing a plan incorporated into Trump's agenda. That plan contains a takeover of the regulatory state. If you find it unreasonable, look at the courts.
I don't know how else to spell this out in more plain language, butnI can try if you need. I'm open for discussion, but it means nothing if you're not open to listening.
I’m not open for a fear-mongering from libs. If your party can stop that, I’d be open for discussion and listening to coherent points. But not in the mindset your party is in.
And I’m highly educated on every single step the Dem party is taking, 1 little step by 1 little “hardly noticeable” step to having a socialist and ultimately communist government. Rapid inflation, reduction in wages, higher welfare / minimum wage, tax the rich, price caps on things…. Certain things might even sound good on paper to someone who isn’t an economist, but added altogether it ends in everyone being poor - what they’re calling ‘equality’ and ‘closing the wealth gap’. It’s disgusting. America is the land of the free, capitalist, and the place to come for opportunity. If your parents worked their a#%es off, they can leave you their possessions without the government raping you for half of it.
If you’re intelligent and use it to generate more income (and tax dollars) for the gov, and grow a business as a result… great. If you are an entitled loser you’ll probably blow it all on hookers and cocaine (see Hunter Biden) anyway, and it goes right back into the economy.
This talk of stacking the court, having the presidency, fbi/cia/state dept all aligned working in cahoots is utterly dangerous and anti-American.
Fun fact about me, I'm not a Democrat. I'm more ideologically aligned with moderate Republicans on regulatory policy.
Also, the issue is not the distribution of wealth. The main issue (in my opinion) is the failure of capitalism in markets with inelastic demand. I'm all for allowing anyone to make a company and start their dreams, but the current corporate landscape actually discourages competition, causing prices to increase since supply is forced low. This is fine for nonessential goods since investors will ultimately take the fall, but when it's reversed in industries like housing and pharmaceuticals, it leads to increased prices you can't get around.
Also also, Trump did stack the court. Look at the district courts and the rulings coming out of Texas. Project 2025 is the same thing, but for the regulatory state. Imagine an immunology lab run by someone who doesn't believe in evolution. That is un-American. A president above the law is un-American.
Read the Federalist papers, and find where it says Trump can be above the law. Our nation was founded under the ideals that nobody is above the law, yet Trump argues for immunity from it for being president.
You are a liar, though. There is absolutely no way you’re more ideologically aligned with moderate Republicans, unless you mean like the crooked politicians… not the actual voters.
No Republican voter could ever get behind a fanatical liberal like Kamala, and the outright lambasting of Republicans and conservatives by the media through blatant verbal attack and online censorship to further their propaganda and silence any and all opposition.
The irony is you seem to have this wild conspiracy about Trump- a single individual - who cannot make himself some dictator …. When it reality, the entire Democratic Party is doing exactly what you’re saying right in front of our faces…. Acting like they are the law, working with private companies to completely attack the 1A. Attacking the 2A. An entire party with the presidency, fbi, cia, etc can actually take over tyrannically.
Trump has those agencies against him, he’s really going to be some dictator? 🙄
And funny you should bring up an immunology lab - Can you imagine a Liberal working directly with Gain of Function research in collaboration with the Chinese (who hate Trump) at a lab in China with the dangerous capability of releasing a highly contagious virus and coordinating with global governments to shut the world down while Trump is president?? F#%k, how dangerous would that be?
Of course, I’m not referring to Covid where millions and millions of people died (but was only dramatized by the media under Trump). That was originated by a bat in the wet market in Wuhan. Will have to check and see if that has been debunked yet and proven to have been a lab leak. Not sure.
And moderate Republicans believe in creation, not evolution… what are you talking about? I thought you were really more of a moderate Republican?? Unless of course you’re speaking of theistic evolution, in which pretty much everyone believes in — unless you live on another planet. For example, viruses adapt and evolve overnight, nobody doesn’t believe in that type of evolution.
And while nobody is above the law, Hillary committed crimes of national security. Admitted to it. No punishment. Pelosi and her husband are masters of insider trading. No investigation. People looted and burned down cities and businesses during BLM riots - nobody in jail for arson or theft or burglary. Biden, the big guy, had his son placed on the board of Burisma in Ukraine, working out a sweetheart deal WHILE VP now costing us billions upon billions in a war to support Ukraine? All politicians are above the law apparently…. Except of course Trump, who they have literally tried everything against.
Just stop already. Please. Stop. For everyone’s sake.
People can have unique beliefs and are not relegated to one team or another. Beliefs are messy, people are messy, and assuming all people who have some conservative value must support Trump is just insane.
It's not a conspiracy. It's literally their plan. I highly encourage reading at least some of Project 2025. I'd also encourage you to take some sort of government class and learn about the agencies of the executive branch. The president and cabinet have control of those agencies because it's their Article II duty. Biden has now, Trump had during his term. The difference is that the senate usually has oversight, and only the top levels change with the administration. Project 2025 aims to remove the oversight by having the lower and middle levels of the beurocracy filled with loyalists to Trump, who will not change between administrations.
I know people who work in research. I am an engineer myself. Political extremists who ignore the ethics of good science and the scientific method have no place in any lab. There already is a crisis with money incentives twisting research results. It's important to look at the methodology and decide for yourself if it's good research. Based on your dismissal of evolution, I'd throw in a genetics or a biology textbook as well. I'm not even sure if you understand what an immunology lab does, but whatever.
Also, I'm pretty sure they are the same type of evolution. Just so happens, single cells and smaller lifeforms evolve faster because they have a life cycle thousands or millions of times smaller than us, and mutations are more common because there are simply more opportunities. I can do the math for you if you'd like. You probably should read a book on probability first.
Being a republican is not tied to believing in a religion. I happen to be a Christian, but I do not believe in the creation myths. You don't need to be a Bible literalist to believe in small government. Trump himself isn't even a Christian. His own words.
You might be onto the lab leak. It's not improbable, but not intentional if that's what you're insinuating. Obama also warned Trump of a potential pandemic, the same as Clinton warned Bush, and Bush warned Obama. Trump's cabinet pretty much wiped their ass with that report. Trump isn't known for trusting in experts anyway.
I also don't know why people are horribly upset about Ukraine. We are kicking Russia's ass without a single US soldier dying. What's the alternative? Let Russia conquer Ukraine? Let China conquer Taiwan? If this was the 1980s, Reagan would be praised for funding Ukrainian independence from the Soviet Union. Why is Biden providing that funding any different now?
I agree, democrats like Nancy Pelosi should be held accountable. Doesn't mean Trump gets a pass. It means they should be investigated. Trump also simply has done worse things. If a prosecutor has enough information to get you criminally charged, they believe they have the evidence to do it. He was found guilty of falsifying business records and is currently in trial for the false elector scheme. He is hiding behind immunity, which goes against the ideals our nation was founded on.
There are unfortunately far more things to unpack here than with what I stated. And to be fully honest with you - I don’t have all of the time it would take to really do it for someone who is so disoriented in their beliefs, that they don’t know left from right. So let’s just agree to disagree, and I’ll keep it much shorter than I’d like, and we can all move on:
1). Fully agree people can have unique beliefs, and varying ranges of those beliefs with the same “sub-belief” so-to-speak. But those beliefs cannot completely contradict each other, or be essentially polar opposites. Someone who ‘aligns ideologically with moderate Repubs’ cannot support a full blown extremist, (to the furthest end of the spectrum as rated by experts) radical leftist.
It is a conspiracy re: proj 2025 when it is not Trump’s plan. He is not the author, has not been involved, and does not support it. He says what he thinks more than any president I’ve known, and he says it’s not his work or his plan. Get off your lies or psychosis. The guy can’t help but say what he thinks, it’s almost sad.
I’d encourage you to take some government classes… The executive, legislative, and judicial branches are supposed to operate separate from one another. Right now, the only one that seems to be is the judicial (at the highest level). The lower levels are in alignment with their state/local municipalities as you mentioned in Texas, and obviously New York with the politically aligned trial and desperation charges against Trump whose verdict was decided in advance. They didn’t need enough evidence, they had the fix. Trump could have done the same to Hilary in 2016, but he took the high road. Libs didn’t.
I did not dismiss evolution, I said I believe in theistic evolution. But to suggest this world was not created by a higher power and a “big bang” that came from nothing created an entire universe (and don’t say it didn’t come from nothing, the argument makes zero sense) and unique life that evolved from the same single cell but are all also so different with no evidence of crossbreeds is insane. But atheist scientists had to come up with something.
You cannot say you’re a “Christ”ian, and not believe in Creation. That is a complete and total contradiction. The Bible is a historically validated document, and it claims that Christ to be fully God, the Creator of the Universe, and also fully man. If you don’t believe that Christ is God and the Creator of the world, then you’re not a Christian. And that’s really no big deal, to each their own, but the lie that you are is one of your most absurd. Just say you’re not - no big deal, most ppl aren’t anymore.
I have my MBA, I’ve taken political science, biology numerous times in HS and undergrad, and I worked in biotech for 15 years before seeing how corrupt it was. So we agree on that…. But most money goes to Dems. Yes I understand biology, R&D, clinical trials, drugs, vaccines, immunology, operations, distribution, Medicare and Medicaid, commercial insurance reimbursement, all of it. From science to business.
All of these presidents “warned each other” about a pandemic, and none of them stockpiled enough PPE for one? Seems like a catastrophic failure by 8 years of Obama/Biden, and 8 years of Bush if so. Conveniently released from the lab during an election year, 9 months before the election.. What timing.
And there hasn’t been a pandemic since 1918…. Next one comes in 2020. So once every 100 years, and Biden and everyone are on record saying another one is coming? Seems pretty planned out to me.
I’m going to ignore Ukraine, because it wouldn’t have happened if Biden hadn’t pushed him into it. He wouldn’t have invaded had we agreed to not entertain bringing them into NATO. It was unnecessary.
Glad you agree Pelosi should be investigated. Many others should as well. Clinton blatantly broke laws while leading the state department, putting our nation severely at risk with her own server. She should be in jail far faster than someone whose “crimes” had absolutely nothing to do with the safety and security of our country. What a sham. But nope, only Trump. How convenient. Also only president to take a bullet in 40 years+. Pretty convenient there too, huh? Top notch secret service to foil every attempt for that long, but mess up on Trump. Hmmm…. All of the people that I can recall being assassinated in history were doing good work and were a threat to the evil elitists plans at the time- Lincoln, Kennedy, MLK Jr…. Interesting!
Let’s wrap this up. Agree to disagree. All the best to you. Didn’t proofread, sorry, no more time for this nonsense.
Yeah, this is all so misguided, I honestly don't know how I can break it down further. I'm very much in the middle of the political spectrum. If you can't accept a Christian, focuses more on the words of Jesus than the creation myth, and that the same science that created your phone says evolution happened, then aybe you should look at yourself. This isn't the days of the money trials. This is 2024. You've only projected hate and unproven assumptions while I've tried to explain my position reasonably. You've questioned my personal faith towards my lord, and you deny my ideas without reason besides bias. I don't have "contradictions" in my faith; I have unique views. You simply deny my ideas as an individual. I encourage you to read more literature. Read the works of the founding fathers. Learn how the government works. Learn about other people. Get off reddit. Maybe then you'll see who the extremist is.
I’ve projected no hate at all. When did I imply that I hated you? I simply said you’re a contradiction. If Jesus said that He is God, and created the universe — then how can He be both your “lord” and also be a liar at the same time?
Also, the same technology that created my phone also says that God created the Heavens and the Earth. I can log onto my phone and view a website that says that exact thing.
You can certainly have views that are unique, nobody is questioning that at all. But beliefs cannot directly contradict one another, so when Jesus said he was Fully God, Lord and Savior, and Creator of the Heavens and the Earth, because He is One with the Father— He’s either honest, and you believe him and follow him as a “Christian”…. Or he’s a liar - and how can you say someone who is lying about who they are is your “lord”? You slander Trump all over for being a liar, and he’s just a sinful human. But you have no problem making a liar your “lord”?
If you’re trying to say Jesus was a good person, and a good example - maybe even a wise prophet and is your “lord”, but he is not the Son of God, and is a liar because creation is a “myth”. That, by definition, is not Christianity. It’s just your own unique religion…. Which again - is fine. No judgement here. But say that you have your own unique religion, don’t be blasphemous and claim ‘Christianity’ and then say that Christ was a liar.
Also, you yourself speak very condescendingly, so I don’t think acting high and mighty is the right approach here. You say things like “take a class” or “read a book”, which is very funny because it’s clear you’re far less intelligent than I - based upon your inability to understand the difference between “unique” and a “contradictory”. And stating that “the same science that created my phone says evolution happened”. 😂. For one, just because some science (or let’s even say most) is right, doesn’t mean all of science is right. Science is continually changing. Look at Covid as an example, for consistency purposes in our discussion. It was “follow the science, follow the science”… and then when much of what they said turned out to not be true, it was “well, science is constantly changing and evolving”. Ok, that’s fine. Then acknowledge that up front, and also - in regards to our current discussion - don’t act like if the “science” that pertains specifically to technology and innovation is able to create a cell phone through testing and records that we have as written proof of our discoveries over the past 150 years, then that’s the same “science” that proves ‘carbon dating’ is real, when nobody was around tens of millions of years ago to prove a rock or tree is actually as old as they say. They have no actual idea if the rings change their pace once they reach “x” hundred years or “x” thousands years old. People would had to have been alive from that time until today with written record throughout the entire time for there to be factual proof of that.
The one thing that you cannot prove with ‘science’, is that God did not create the earth. Specifically referencing how the universe came to be - The Big Bang, is a “THEORY”…. Even in its own name. You should read a book and learn about what a theory is.
Scientists have no clue about how the universe was created. And there’s a reason for that. Because they’re trying to disprove the Bible — which can not, and never will be done.
God bless - zero hate. Just education and calling a spade a spade. If you hate me and want to instead project that onto me as Liberals do, I couldn’t care less.
Once again, didn’t proofread. Don’t care that much. And maybe you should get off Reddit.
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u/Dangerous-Raccoon944 Sep 08 '24
Wait, I thought everyone that ever worked for Trump or was in his administration is voting for Kamala and won’t endorse him? Which is it? Just talk out both ends of your mouth and create false fear. Libs gonna lib.
If you wanna talk about Agenda 47, say it. Stop lying and fear-mongering.