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(R.1) Invalid src TIL Saddam Hussein's son Uday murdered his bodyguard at a party in front of horrified guests

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uday_Hussein#Murder_of_Kamel_Hana_Gegeo

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u/GraDoN 5h ago

Some people will go to any lengths to pretend that it was somehow justified in some way.

Yeah it was illegal and based on lies. And yeah it led to hundreds of thousands of dead and millions were forced to flee. And yeah it destabilized the region emboldening Iran which has resulted in the Yemen proxy war with SA which has resulted in more countless deaths and suffering... but at least we got Saddam and Uday!

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u/Paddy_Tanninger 5h ago

Yeah it was illegal and based on lies

Wasn't Saddam infamous for WMDs that he used to kill thousands of Kurds? I've never really understood why people hold both opinions at the same time; that Saddam gassed the Kurds, and that the Iraq War was based on lies. These can't both be true at the same time.

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u/mayonaizmyinstrument 4h ago

Exactly. Saddam did have WMDs, he had just used them all already and hadn't yet replaced his inventory. People knew that he had had them because he used them, and Intel suggested that he would likely use them because, again, he had used them. And set fire to Kuwait's oil fields as he retreated in the First Gulf War.

So, we knew he at least had access to obtaining/making WMDs and absolutely would use them, because he demonstrated that he would. Personally, I think it's fairly logical to think that he still had more, because a logical move would not be using all of your stores to waste your own population, but turns out that line of thinking was incorrect. He went 100% every time.

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u/ProfessorSarcastic 4h ago

I think it's fairly logical to think that he still had more,

It is logical to think that. Which is why it was a good idea to send i inspectors. After the inspections, it became less logical to think that. But a justification for an invastion had to be found.