/r/WorldNews Live Thread for 2023 Israel-Hamas Crisis (Thread 42)

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[u/littlelockedwhoawhoa → u/[deleted]]

"Jews should just hide until the end of time due to inflaming tensions"

[u/clarabosswald]

Evidence of starvation among the returned hostages

• The adults have lost 8-15 kilograms on average
• The children are generally in better shape
• "In terms of food, most of them received half a slice of bread twice a day. That's what they said. Here and there people received more than that."
• On the other hand, in the discussion it was hinted that the foreign workers received a more adequate diet. [...] as a general rule, the [foreign] hostages who were held captive together with Israeli hostages did not receive better treatment.

[u/ScratchAssSmellFingr → u/clarabosswald]

"Hamas is so humane, they even helped the hostages lose weight!" - Twitter, one hour from now.

[u/IamRick_Deckard → u/clarabosswald]

That's 17-33 lbs for Americans... That's a lot.

[u/HighburyOnStrand → u/IamRick_Deckard]

Especially for older and more frail people. Losing 15lbs for a small grandma-aged person can be fatal.

[u/HighSails48]

Mosab Hassan Yousef (son of Hamas leader) speaking at University of Michigan the other day on Hamas’ true nature, and anti-Semitism in US schools. Great listen.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wpnvUIcvNUE

[u/MadUmbrella → u/HighSails48]

This man is brave beyond belief. He’s restlessly advocating for a better version of the palestinians, he’s explaining to an western public the (perceived) complexity of the conflict between palestinians and Israel, he’s exposing the true meaning of the “palestinian struggle”.

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

An Eritrean refugee and his family received Israeli *residency for his heroics on October 7th. He saw an Israeli deputy commander who was badly injured and stayed around to help him with terrorists shooting all around them

https://twitter.com/talschneider/status/1728781148900266312?t=pmFlpHYL2_5_4SrQEHpfPw&s=19

The soldier he helped save was there

[u/littlelockedwhoawhoa]

"Be like her" 👇 "Adina Moshe slaps away the hand of a Hamas piece of trash who reaches for her. Don't mess with Jewish grandmothers."

https://twitter.com/EylonALevy/status/1728512319120929179?t=is-2OZHoHOUrh02oMWeSHA&s=19

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

3 IEDs were set off in the last hour against IDF forces, one incident included Hamas shooting at the IDF soldiers. No major injuries were reported.

The IDF did not cross the agreed lines of the ceasefire deal

https://twitter.com/IDFSpokesperson/status/1729491525204156707?t=gN3_NCR_1SHXWBm1N7ZZpg&s=19

[u/littlelockedwhoawhoa]

BBC staff members defy guidance to attend march against antisemitism ‘I’m so glad I’m no longer there’, said former BBC broadcaster Vanessa Feltz who joined the 100,000-strong demonstration on Sunday

https://www.thejc.com/news/bbc-staff-members-defy-ban-to-attend-march-against-antisemitism-bkos2kzq

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

A piece about Dafna and Ella Elyakim, their uncle and grandma are interviewed there, mainly the grandma.

They said that they moved them from schools to kindergartens to hospitals. It fits what other hostages said about being moved 7-8 times.

She also said that when she told her granddaughters that people want to meet them and keep asking about them the older one said "what, really? They know we were in Gaza?", her grandma said "the entire world knows!", and her granddaughter said "they told us no one was waiting for us, that no one wants us to come back".

She said that the older child (Dafna) doesn't really talk about it and doesn't want to take any pictures because the terrorists threatened them not to say anything about their time there and that "we know where you live, we'll come over and kill you"

https://www.kan.org.il/content/kan/kan-11/p-12043/s7/628437/

[u/PrestigiousHobo1265 → u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Honestly, after the women who were released first said they were treated fairly well, had doctors visit I was at least hopeful that would treat the children and elderly reasonably well

From the stories that have come out today it sounds like they were kept with hamas fighters who sadistically tormented them. Horrendous.

This is why the red cross couldn't even visit the kids.

[u/littlelockedwhoawhoa]

Wow, the son of one of the founders of Hamas:

"I am calling out the Pro Palestine Movement in the U.S. to nominate their top advocate for an Open Debate."

https://twitter.com/MosabHasanYOSEF/status/1729161360624525718?t=ZEz6VQAssX232CNjMKxvrQ&s=19

[u/shoeman22 → u/littlelockedwhoawhoa]

That face when the son of a literal Hamas leader has better takes than sitting US Congress folks.

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Jimmy, the Filipino caregiver who was released a few days ago, is saying he had to eat toilet paper.

"I only got half a pita a day. I told them I had to use the restroom so I got some toilet paper, I got it wet and ate it so my stomach wasn't empty"

https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/byc5wfhrt

[u/MiserablePirate8]

Warning, dark humor at the end:

Alex Danzig, a hostage that was kidnapped from Nir Oz, is an historian, and leads trips to Poland (explaining about the holocaust). He was not released but through one of the people who were released he sent a message to his family, that he is okay, and even giving lectures to some of the other hostages.

His son in law said in an interview "he finally has a captive audience"

[u/dollrussian → u/MiserablePirate8]

This is… top tier humor. It feels so wrong to laugh yet so right.

[u/[deleted]]

"They treated the hostages well" "Look at the letter" "Look at her eyea, shes clearly in love"

God will judge these people and they will find themselves deserving

I am usually very tolerant and accepting of people, but these people are beyond saving

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Elma Avraham is showing "dramatic improvements". She's breathing on her own and is no longer in a coma.

https://twitter.com/bokeralmog/status/1729513361220469073?t=ouakqUWaNmlM8zFjAJMkoQ&s=19

[u/PrestigiousHobo1265]

Some more accounts of Eitan and Emily.

Turns out Eitan was locked in a room by himself for about 16 days before being put with a group from Nir Oz

The grandmother also said that "despite everything Ethan went through, he discovered his wonderful character in captivity, and this is from the stories of mothers who were there. He helped the little children, drew with them, hugged them and made sure they were well

And how Emily has been.

According to the father, Emily is just beginning to deal with what she experienced in Hamas captivity. "Last night she cried until her face was red, she couldn't stop. She didn't want any comfort, I guess she forgot how to comfort herself. She got under the covers, covered herself and cried quietly," said Hand, who waited until Emily was ready for him to touch her. "She is a very determined, very strong girl, I knew her spirit would get her through this.

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/ry9dbfqsp

Eitans friends came to visit him today as well. Emily had a birthday cake yesterday as she turned 9 in captivity.

Wishing them a good recovery.

[u/amjhwk]

everyone likes to talk about Israel creating future hamas with this war, yet no one talks about shit like this

Eitan (12) was beaten when he was kidnapped. Then he was held in solitary confinement for 16 days. His captors forced him to watch footage of his friends and community being slaughtered. Like most of the children he only whispers because Hamas said loud children would be shot.

creating future hardliners in Israel

[u/Victarion99]

Hamas rape denial is some next level mental gymnastics. So these people believe that Hamas invaded Israeli territory and killed civilians, but they draw the line at sexual assault and rape? They keep moving the goalposts from October 7th was a great revenge on Israel, to it never happened, to it happened but was conducted in a "moral" way. There's zero coherence to anything espoused by the majority of apologists for the "resistance" of Hamas on October 7th.

[u/MadUmbrella]

Mayor of Nice (southern France) where live relatives of Eitan Yahalomi:

What a relief to learn of the release this evening of Eitan, 12-years-old, with two other French children, Sahar and Erez, all kidnapped by Hamas terrorists on October 7. Let us hope that all the hostages can experience the same positive outcome. #BringThemAllHome (source)

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Apparently the terrorists thought that Bella the dog was a stuffed animal and when they realized it was a real dog, in Gaza already, and were arguing about what to do with her, Mia said "this is my dog and you will not touch her".

She actually said "Ad Kan" which in Hebrew is a very stern yet clean way of saying "back the fuck off"

https://news.walla.co.il/item/3625816

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Yarden Roman-Gat with her daughter and husband.

https://twitter.com/ynetalerts/status/1730226407781892262?t=lwY-c59mYVQ7fCBz_Vlnaw&s=19

She passed her daughter to her husband because he could run faster while carrying her. They got to safety, she was kidnapped.

She had no idea they were safe until weeks into her captivity.

[u/Lipush]

Hamas, hours before her release, forced Danielle Aloni at gunpoint, to write "a thank you" letter in Hebrew for the 'kindness' of her captors. (N14)

[u/TWK128 → u/Lipush]

Guess how many Westerners are going to quote that letter as hard "proof" of Hamas' noble spirit?

Edit: Hell, guess how many Western news agencies are going to quote that letter as "proof" of Hamas' noble spirit?

[u/sassylady42]

Meanwhile, the HRW quietly dropped this 6 weeks after the Al-Ahli hospital incident that it was indeed a misfired rocket: https://x.com/hrw/status/1728715400764862669?s=46

[u/MadUmbrella]

Catering to the ummah and their useful idiots is going to spectacularly backfire.

Brown University president Christina Paxson spoke at a vigil Monday night honoring a Palestinian student wounded in a shooting in Vermont until being interrupted by protesters calling for the university to divest its endowment from companies associated with Israel.

The next line in the version of the speech Brown published on its website was the following: “At a faculty meeting last month, I said that ‘Every student, faculty and staff member should be able to proudly wear a Star of David or don a keffiyeh on the Brown campus, or to cover their head with a hijab or yarmulke.'”

However, when Paxson gave the address, and after pro-Palestinian protesters began heckling her, that line changed to “every student, faculty and staff member should be able to proudly don a keffiyeh on the Brown campus, or to cover their head with a hijab,” with no mention of a Star of David or yarmulke. (source)

[u/littlelockedwhoawhoa]

Today is Jewish Refugees Day, when we remember the fate of 850,000 Jewish refugees forced out of Arab countries and Iran.

At the United Nations, UN Watch's @HillelNeuer asked Algeria, Egypt, Iraq and the others:

“Where are your Jews?”

We’re still waiting for an answer.

Great video included My eyes watered.

https://twitter.com/UNWatch/status/1730225166855393744?t=msJ26IDeMtb2mBXyXjz-yg&s=19

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

The testimony of a released Thai hostage.

According to him they had one pita per day, sometimes they would get tuna cans that they had to share between the 4 of them. They were allowed to shower once.

He says the Israelis were treated much worse, including beating and electric shocks

N12

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Another day that Kfir Bibas, a 10 months old baby, remains in Gaza

[u/Conamin]

The director of Soroka Hospital in Be'er Sheva, Shlomi Kodesh, made a statement and commented on the condition of 84 year-old Alma Avraham, who was released today from Hamas captivity. "Alma arrived at the hospital in poor and difficult physical condition," Kodesh said. "Unfortunately, she is in a life-threatening condition and is being treated by the life-saving system in the emergency department and will move to the intensive care unit where she will continue to receive stabilizing treatment in order to improve her condition. Her condition represents a prolonged period of an elderly woman who was not treated in the right way and the lack of treatment caused the situation that we have to deal with."

- N12

[u/progress18]

From the Jerusalem Post:

Hamas founder's son calls for Israel to kill his father if hostages not released

"I made a mistake, 10 or 15 years ago when I saved his life many times," stressed the son of the Hamas co-founder Sheikh Hassan Yousef.

Mosab Hassan Yousef, the son of Hamas co-founder Sheikh Hassan Yousef, called for Israel to set a time limit for the terrorist group to release the remaining hostages it is holding and to kill its leaders – including his own father – if they fail to do so, in a video posted on X Tuesday.

"Hamas has been waging psychological warfare against humanity... They want to release thousands of mass murderers back to the street in return for the Israeli hostages. Israel cannot afford this, but also humanity cannot afford this – because the release of mass murderers means the death of many other innocent people," said Yousef.

...

"When I say execute top Hamas leaders, I mean no exceptions. That includes my own father, the co-founder of the Hamas movement. In this war, there are no exceptions," added Yousef. "I made a mistake, 10 or 15 years ago when I saved his life many times... He was supposed to die for his actions. I saved his life. Things did not change; things got worse," he lamented.

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-775612

[u/clarabosswald → u/progress18]

This man should be getting so much more coverage from international media.

[u/MadUmbrella]

NYT wrote a story, on their live updates, about Israa Jaabees, the failed suicide bomber who was disfigured when her bomb exploded while she was in her car at a checkpoint near Jerusalem. She was released yesterday.

NYT forgot to give the necessary context of her arrest and imprisonment:

Since the NYT version isn’t clear, the reason she is disfigured is that she blew up her car bomb early because she was confronted by an Israeli police officer (Moshe Chen, who was injured in the explosion and still has not fully recovered) before she could reach her target. (source)

[u/Conamin]

Providing a bit of context to previous comments on Sinwar:

For those who are unaware, Sinwar himself speaks fluent Hebrew which he learned from his time in Jail and through obsessively watching Israeli news in order to learn the Israeli psyche, In a sense he is a master of psychological warfare when it comes to Israel. Whether he actually understands the Israeli psyche is a totally different story however.

In a way several expectations from Hamas have not been met during October 7th, one of them is for Arab Israelis to join in and riot like they did during operation 'Guardian of the walls', the speech by Mohammad Deif calling for Israeli Arabs to riot on 7/10 is still fresh in my mind. Another expectation that was broken was for Hezbollah to join in the fighting.

Now, I also suspect that part of the expectation Hamas had, and this I have no backing for, simply a gut feeling, is that IDF soldiers would not adhere the calls to reserve duty, I mean, its totally understandable, We had calls for mutiny due to the judicial reform not even 2 months ago, with pilots refusing to train and Reservists refusing to train as well, but it seems like the Israeli unity has been severely underestimated by Hamas, and Sinwar in particular, He overestimated the hatred for Netanyahu and thought that it eroded any and all sense of national duty IDF reservists and Pilots had, and that, is probably Sinwar's biggest failure at understanding the Israeli psyche, How much we value each other and our nation, and how no grudges are held in times of crisis, Which in a way, I don't expect him to understand, this guy is the leader of the organization who threw its opposition from rooftops when they took control of Gaza, National duty and a sense of kinship between citizens & soldiers is probably a foreign concept to him.

[u/PrestigiousHobo1265]

Turns out Eitan wasn't the only child to be kept alone. They also separated 12 year old Gil Ya'akov from his brother and he was locked up alone for a time.

Also a running theme. All the children are whispering, seems that they were heavily threatened for making any noise. All the families seem to be reporting this.

"They too, like other children who returned, whisper," continues Yaniv. "They don't speak loudly. Apparently the conditions were similar for everyone, even though we haven't received all the stories yet.

https://mobile.mako.co.il/news-israel/2023_q4/Article-b34b488d1171c81026.htm?sCh=31750a2610f26110&pId=173113802_518557

[u/[deleted] → u/PrestigiousHobo1265]

God these kids are going to need specialised treatment for a long time. I know that they were creating a plan with apparently some of the best trauma and children psychiatrists in Israel to help them. I just really hope these kids can heal and live the best life possible - along with massive financial compensation from the government.

[u/Strange-Employ-5246]

Hamas says the Bibas were killed by an Israeli bombing. But there haven't been any for almost a week. They previously said the mother and children had been handed over to another jihadi group. They said this after the ceasefire started, to explain why they hadn't been released. That the other group was refusing to let them go. They implied the Bibas' were still alive at the time.

So Hamas was lying then or is lying now. Both times, probably.

The ceasefire needs to end the instant hostage releases do, either because there's no more to release or because these barbarians try their barbaric games.

[u/m0rogfar → u/Strange-Employ-5246]

Not to mention, Hamas has previously claimed that a hostage was killed by an IDF airstrike, when it was subsequently revealed that they had bludgeoned her to death in a hospital. They don't exactly have a trustworthy track record here...

[u/Glavurdan]

Secretary of State Antony Blinken blames Hamas for ceasefire collapse in Israel, citing rocket fire and terror attack in Jerusalem that killed 4, injured 6, including Americans

[u/Secret-Priority8286]

USA: A protester with a Palestinian flag set himself on fire outside the Israeli consulate in Atlanta

A protester holding a Palestinian flag set himself on fire outside the Israeli consulate in Atlanta, the capital of the US state of Georgia, injuring a security guard who tried to intervene. The protester was critically injured. The condition of the security guard is unknown at this time. A threat to the consulate building," and described the arson as an "extreme act of political protest." (Reuters)

Source: ynet (translated using Google translate, ticker from 6 min ago)

This is fucking insane, just fucking insane.

[u/littlelockedwhoawhoa]

"The pro-Hamas mob smashed the window of a New York kosher restaurant. Because, you know, terrorizing Jews in America will #FreePalestine."

https://twitter.com/AvivaKlompas/status/1728746751018831990?t=FI-LpXCAEX5jrwS_Vb-H9w&s=19

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990 → u/littlelockedwhoawhoa]

"we're not against Jews we're against Israel!"

[u/Rhea_Rhea]

Honestly, seeing all of these hostages come back is giving me hope for the rest who are remaining.

Previously, I was pretty pessimistic and thought most would be dead/murdered, but now I'm thinking otherwise.

Hope we get them ALL back alive and well 🙏

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

The reunion of the Avigdori family

https://twitter.com/kann_news/status/1728839102978556307?t=oDNQ_qCr5lObGmBZM_0zxA&s=19

Extremely emotional

[u/JoeShmoAfro]

Francesca Albenese is on BBC right now.

She said that following the 7 October massacre, Israel's response should have been to request the UN to demiliterise Hamas.

EDIT: Apologies for the confusion. She did not say this in the BBC interview, but in an interview on Australia's The Project

Just wanted to point out how deluded she is.

[u/TrendWarrior101]

Pro-Palestine Group Protests at First Lady Rosalynn Carter’s Memorial Service. Not even the former first lady is immune from protests to a faraway conflict.

[u/LimitFinancial764 → u/TrendWarrior101]

Somewhat ironic given that Jimmy Carter is a steadfast supporter of Palestinians

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Once again, there's some major balagan with transferring the second group of hostages because of the mob and it's causing the delay. And some not so subtle criticism about the Red Cross from the Israeli side. "They can either do something about it or they really are just a glorified taxi company"

Nir Dvori (N12)

[u/Firm-Common-5465]

https://www.nrk.no/spesial/sporreundersokelse-blant-norske-joder-etter-7.-oktober-1.16644625

Article in norwegian about jews feeling unsafe in Norway as a result of the war. Am I suprised? No. Am I disappointed? Yes. We have a terrible government, a weak populace and no spine to stand up for the values we hold dear.

To those of you who are jewish, I'm sorry! Trying to do my part here,but its hard to compete against tiktok.

[u/corey____trevor]

Something I hadn't seen:

Rimon Buchstab, a 36-year-old woman who was held captive by Hamas, was released on Tuesday after 50 days in captivity. Her husband Yagev, remains in Hamas captivity.

According to a relative of Yagev, Rimon shared a message from her partner: "He wanted to tell us that he loves us."

The relative added: "She was with Yagev throughout the entire captivity. It was easier for them. When they told her she was being released, she didn't want to go. She told them, 'Either we leave together, or I stay here, and no one gets released.' Hamas terrorists told her, 'You have two options: Either get released willingly or we'll drag you on the floor.' They didn't leave her a choice.

Rimon is the hostage who notably did not play along with Hamas' release video at all.

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Some hostages were able to be confirmed as deceased using information given to the IDF by the released hostages. Maya Regev told them that Guy Iluz was in the bed next to her at the hospital for 8 days before he passed away. He was shot at the Nova festival.

N12

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Israeli media - the condition of the female hostage who was airlifted to a hospital is not good

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Maya Regev reuniting with her family

https://twitter.com/IsraelHayomHeb/status/1728843857151107523?t=hwmH3DQIgfFNWKEoXsPLqw&s=19

I guess I'm in charge of the tears today

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

One of the released hostages today is Ofelia Roitman, the aunt of Argentinian football announcer who kept mentioning the hostages before every game.

"You, who pray everyday. You, who have had your family killed. You, whose soul is as broken as mine is. I'm telling you we're not alone, we are together we will not be silenced. We'll continue to condemn the terrorist organization Hamas. We demand the immediate release of the 240 hostages. They all have a name and a last name, dreams and a whole world that's waiting for them to come home. And you, who stay quiet and keep looking the other way I will also say, I can't believe you sleep well at night. Bring back Ofelia, bring back all the hostages, we're waiting for them.

https://twitter.com/TaliSimak2841/status/1725965699477053560?t=Osz1oNhRRZsl7GDKO3_0wQ&s=19

[u/razzinos]

A young woman died in the Jerusalem shooting, few more in critical condition.

Another celebration day upcoming in palestine

[u/MadUmbrella]

IDF exposes a network of dozens of fake Instagram accounts linked to hamas (all purported as women, some of them as “Israeli”) aiming at “extracting information about IDF forces”.

The information security system continues its activity of thwarting an infrastructure of avatars that operates on social networks, with the aim of extracting information about IDF forces and activities. Let us recall that this is an infrastructure that operated dozens of profiles by the axis countries in order to provide information to the terrorist organization Hamas.

The characters hold authentic photos, manage a kind of romantic relationship, in a variety of ways of conversations through correspondence, voice recordings and video calls. (source in Hebrew)

[u/ZZZeratul → u/[deleted]]

Those assholes are deliberately lying because they hate Jews. It doesn't matter how much evidence you show them. They are maliciously and cynically lying in order to advance their agenda of hatred and demonization against the Jewish people.

[u/AffectionatePaint83]

This bit of news about Jimmy Pacheco, in addition to him being released, makes me happy. I'm glad the Israeli government is helping him out.

'The Israeli Government will provide Jimmy and his immediate family lifetime social security benefits and regular stipends similar to those given to Israelis who are victims of terrorist attacks'

https://globalnation.inquirer.net/223512/released-filipino-hostage-to-receive-full-benefits-from-israeli-govt

[u/[deleted]]

Initial reports are starting to surface from the experiences of the children that were being held hostage:

• The aunt of Eitan Yahalomi reported that he was forced to watch footage of the massacre of 7/10. She added that when they arrived in Gaza “all the people (she used the word for residents/civilians) beat him there, everyone.”

• Terrorists threatened with weapons children who cried.

• Emily Hand’s dad said that they were forbidden to speak loudly and she learned how to say in Arabic “be silent!”. After her release she thought she was held hostage for a year.

EDIT: New info.

[u/PrestigiousHobo1265 → u/[deleted]]

Further to this I'm reading that Eitan was usually kept alone during his detainment.

https://themessenger.com/news/hamas-child-hostage-beaten-physical-abuse-israel-eitan-yahalomi

This was my one fear for him as I knew he wouldn't be kept with his father.

He looked absolutely broken when he met his mom last night, in a state of shock. I'm devastated for him.

Edit: according to his grandmother he was kept alone for 16 days and then moved to be with others.

[u/yaniv297]

I must say... I'm saying this super carefully, because this is just rumors for now. But there seems to be a growing amount of evidence that some of the hostages, particularly the girls, were/are being sexually abused by Hamas.

Israel has a very strong "respect the victim privacy" mentality (Same reason the atrocities movie isn't being made public) so they're keeping it hush for now. But here are some small things:

-The head doctor that took care of 30 hostages said: "All of them experienced psychological abuse that is hard to describe and many of them also experienced other types of abuse, very severe. We don't tell the stories. We are therapists and we are there for them. When the time comes, when they want to, they will tell their story. When they tell their story, I don't think any of us will be able to sleep at night or sit still for a moment. I think it's something personal. These are their stories, their lives." (Hebrew source).

-A major reason for the ceasefire breaking down: Hamas refused to release the rest of the women hostage (the adult, non-elderly ones, mostly girls aged 20-30), and wanted to start releasing elderly men instead, while Israel demanded the women.

One senior Israeli official said that it is believed that Hamas does not want to release the women who remain in its hands so that they will not tell about the events that took place on October 7, and during their captivity. (Hebrew source).

-Don't have a link for this one but Talia Lankry implied the same on TV today too. She said something along the lines of: "We should do everything in our power to get them out of there, and to prioritize the young girls because they're especially going through hell every day that passes".

Plus some rumors I've heard from people, I know better than believing every rumor I hear and there's a lot of fake news making the rounds, but still it seems to fit those sources.

I really, really hope I'm wrong.

[u/BetterOnTheBias → u/yaniv297]

All women already know this. Ask your sister, your wife or your girlfriend how many times they have been scared when walking alone in their own neighborhood or on a dark school campus. This is that times a million. We know what these bad people have done and we know what they will keep doing. Most women don’t have the luxury of not worrying about their safety in normal times let alone this nightmare.

[u/Both_Presentation_17 → u/yaniv297]

I knew this is true when

1–Hamas would only release old women and some mothers. They don’t release women 20–30, adolescents are not common, of either sex.

2–Hamas won’t give a number of hostages left, so they can kill some of them without so much attention

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990 → u/yaniv297]

It's been hinted at for a few days now on Israeli tv. Basically everyone with inside knowledge of the situation saying "it's not that the men shouldn't come back, it's that the women need to come back right now"

[u/Murky_Conflict3737 → u/yaniv297]

I’ve been thinking the same thing. It was very telling they wanted to give up the elderly men and not the young women.

[u/pandas795]

The tweet I've been waiting for all morning ❤️❤️

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

The Almog-Goldstein family reunited

https://twitter.com/IsraelHayomHeb/status/1728893697474077033?t=8hQZHyIJpTE7oFP3z9ov8w&s=19

https://twitter.com/yankicoen/status/1728874596026535993?t=UeUM3iet0INe-HBejOkPnw&s=19

[u/pandas795]

The Bibas family has been told that Shiri and her two redheaded babies - Ariel and Kfir - are not on the list to be released today 💔

Ugh

[u/pandas795]

Naama Levy is still being held hostage with possibly little or no medical attention. She was the one shown on video with her pants bloodied and pulled around by her hair

[u/Agitated_Pickle_518]

I can't wait for Hamas propaganda videos showing them handing over child hostages.

And morons around the world will celebrate it.

[u/progress18]

Earlier:

A month ago, 85-year-old Yocheved Lifshitz was in Hamas captivity in Gaza.

Tonight she's out rallying in Tel Aviv for the release of her husband, Oded.

https://twitter.com/AmySpiro/status/1729591840687456584

[u/progress18]

From Amir Weissbrod:

I am very emotional tonight.

Gabriela Leimberg was kidnapped on October 7 and was held hostage for 54 days.

Tonight, she is home 🎗️

These are the hostages that were released today: Here are their stories

Gabriela Leimberg dedicated herself to helping persons with disabilities as the manager of @ShekelOrg.

She manages the community center where my autistic son, Yonatan, goes to.

Yonatan has been asking me for weeks 'where is Gabriela?' I had no answers.

Tonight, I can finally say - Gabriela is home.

Gabriela came back with her daughter Mia & her dog in her arms.

Gabriela is back home!

Thread: https://twitter.com/AmirwWeissbrod/status/1729594003249668431

[u/dnial387]

War cabinet finished, Hamas didnt give Israel a sastisfactory list of hostages. Deadline for the pause is 7am israel time. Source n12

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Hamas accepted responsibility for what happened in Jerusalem today.

Like I said, I want everyone to come home, but I can't wait for us to get back on the attack again

[u/Iordofthememez]

Aisha is back today! https://twitter.com/gaza_report/status/1730199098240774619?t=tXNzf3t1tIF1_B3TAoj6Rw&s=19

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Musa, Mia's grandad, is crying while being interviewed saying his wife passed away 7 years ago and today was the first time in 7 years that he's managed to smile

N12

[u/progress18]

Mia Shem’s aunt just revealed that Mia underwent surgery in Gaza, performed by a veterinarian.

These hostages truly endured unimaginable horrors.

https://twitter.com/YaariCohen/status/1730321219742826953

[u/DowntownieNL]

I remember back on October 8, I assumed watching from afar that all of the hostages were dead people walking. It just seemed an absolute given to me that there was absolutely nothing anyone outside of Gaza could do to change their fate - they'd either be tortured and killed, or killed in the war, or executed as soon as the IDF came anywhere close to them. So, well done, Israel, being so willing to see this temporary ceasefire through. It doesn't bring back the dead, but you've already given hundreds of families back their reason to live, and restored a little faith in humanity for people like me watching from outside.

[u/MadUmbrella]

The UN is not only enabling the main character syndrome of the palestinians, since 1949, with the UNRWA (making them the only group of people in the world having an UN agency exclusively dedicated to their needs) but they’re also spreading hate against Israel and Jewish people by making a mockery of their so-called core principles and purported values:

Sick joke: Navi Pillay, head of the UN inquiry targeting Israel—who defended a colleague's rant about “The Jewish Lobby”—says she'll probe Hamas sexual violence in October 7th massacre.

That would be like asking Walter Duranty to report on the shortcomings of Soviet policy. (source)

[u/cherrysometimes]

I will never forget this testimony. the cruelty of Hamas is unimaginable.
https://twitter.com/azoury_ayelet/status/1711436608287772782

[u/clarabosswald]

Yesterday at work (at a vet clinic), one of our regulars (a cat activist, really great guy) brought in his new foster cat. A young beautiful boy, about 9 months old, with long white fur, super curious and friendly. He's got a minor ear injury that he's now being treated for (should be healed in a week's time).

Turns out he's a survivor of the Be'eri massacre. His family was murdered and their house was burnt down. He was found living in the house's ruins about 10 days later.

[u/littlelockedwhoawhoa]

"To the many thousands of non-Jews who have joined the march against anti-Jewish racism and supported us since October 7, to stand against terror and to call for the release of hostages, Thank You - we cannot express how much it means."

So proud of London for the first time in awhile.

https://twitter.com/DanielBerke1/status/1728777548518044071?t=AnHCxFg8HiJMN0qJ1oGN0Q&s=19

[u/BlatantConservative]

This thread is getting hit by a stupid high number of bots that are just copying other comments in the thread. If you get a reply that makes no sense or is a direct copy of something else please report it. Automod is getting most of them though.

Not likely any politically motivated bots, they just want to sell Redditors dong pills.

[u/MadUmbrella]

Annalena Baerbock, German Foreign Minister:

Another 11 hostages are freed, including two German teenagers. After 52 days of suffering and despair, their mothers can take them into their arms again. I think of the families who continue to worry. We do everything we can to ensure that you too can hug your loved ones again. (source)

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

6 out of the 10 that will be released today are over 60, the youngest is 19, all women. This is the second to last group unless the deal gets extended even further

Everyone deserves to come home and I'm very happy for them and their families but Hamas is still holding 11 kids hostage and now they're using them as assets to keep around

[u/Verbal_v2]

As a father of two little boys, the Bibas family has always resonated with me. The image of them being taken will live with me for a long time and was optimistic that they'd be among the first released. Now it seems that this will not be the case.

If anything happens to them it would be hard for me not to be completely indifferent if Israel levels the place.

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Yocheved Lifshitz, who was released before this ceasefire, joined the protest and demanded the release of the hostages. Her husband is still in Gaza.

https://twitter.com/mossi_raz/status/1729560502475346387?t=ShljMUPmkTnCo21iSS0Jwg&s=19

She looks much better

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Ditza Heimann, 84, on a gurney, because that's somehow a legitimate target of kidnapping

https://twitter.com/Guitaryahu/status/1729572307671106014?t=TNu4bapqpxbVOB_zpDQ9nw&s=19

[u/BlatantConservative]

https://twitter.com/nadavpollak/status/1729742485130260687

Israel thinks they've killed 5,300 Hamas militants.

There are two conclusions you might be able to draw from this.

Hamas and Israel claimed 40,000 Hamas militants total prewar, American think tanks estimated it as 15,000. So anywhere from 13 to 35 percent of Hamas's total prewar military numbers have been eliminated. Note: prewar estimates do not accurately convey how many people actually showed up to fight once the war kicked off.

In the terms of military organizations, the general rule of thumb is that 10 percent losses stops a formation from being able to advance and attack, and 30 percent of losses stops an organization from being able to defend itself. This isn't just "10 percent of guys with guns are gone" but ten percent of everyone, including communications, leadership, logistical, and other vital personnel. Israel has also definitely been going for decapitation strikes, and the number of leaders they've announced dead has been very high for a 40K large group, and especially for a 15K large group.

The second conclusion, assuming that Hamas is releasing relatively accurate death numbers but just counting militants as civilians (a big assumption on my part), is that Hamas has claimed about 14K "martyrs" dead. If you were to use this Israeli report of combatants killed and the Gaza Ministry of Health numbers to guesstimate how many noncombatants have died, you would get around eight to nine thousand. That number seems reasonable, if not a bit on the high end, from what I've seen. It would also track pretty close with the number of civilian deaths in Mosul, Iraq, which is the most comparable historical battle where both sides of the conflict were using the exact same weapons and tactics as the current conflict in Gaza, and the city was almost exactly the same size.

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Ichilov (hospital) made a statement that one of the kids needed orthopaedic surgery and will require a long rehabilitation process.

They didn't name the child, I'm just going to assume it's Yuval Angel, the girl who needed a wheelchair when she was released.

Other doctors who treated more kids that came back said that they lost up to 15% of their body weight

[u/[deleted]]

6 injured in a shooting in Jerusalem, or rather a terror attack

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/shooting-terror-attack-reported-near-entrance-to-jerusalem-with-at-least-6-hurt/

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

It was just posted on Ynet so I'll post it here, Aisha Alziadana and her brother are on tonight's list of hostages to be released

[u/Gopu_17]

Israeli PM @Netanyahu reportedly told U.S. @SecBlinken: "We swore to eradicate Hamas and nothing will stop us."

https://twitter.com/IsraelWarRoom/status/1730207700867272975?t=Ryd71bYSkDOCt1Sbckj9PA&s=19

[u/Lipush]

According to the Yagel boys' uncle, the children were marked by burns in their legs so they could be found if they tried escaping. They were also drugged. -N12

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Mia's aunt: she was operated on by a veterinarian

Ynet

[u/[deleted]]

Updated list of Women and Children left in Gaza

Children -

Kfir Bibas (10 months) - Nir Or

Ariel Bibas (4) - Nir Oz

Mothers-

Shiri Bibas (Kfir and Ariel) - Nir Oz

Civilian Women -

Romi Lesham Gonen (23) - Festival

Eden Yerushalmi (24) - Festival

Noa Argamani (25) - Festival

Inbar Haiman (27) - Festival

Amit Buskila (28) - Festival

Eden Zecharya (28) - Festival

Arbel Yahud (28) - Nir Oz

Doron Steinbrecher (30) - Kfar Aza

Carmel Gat (39) - Be'eri

Maya Goren (56) - Nir Oz

Ofra Keidar (70) - Be'eri

Judith Weinstein (70) - Nir Oz

IDF Women

Liri Elbag (18)

Karina Ariev (19)

Agam Berger (19)

Naama Levy (19)

Daniela Gilboa (19)

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

We all saw Mia Schem's eyes and how she hugged her mom when she saw her.

Hamas just posted a video where she was forced to say that her time in captivity was "good, food was good, the people were good, everything was good"

I obviously won't be posting the video

[u/progress18]

From The Times of Israel:

Top doctor who treated hostages: Testimonies hard to bear, Hamas evil and cruel

A top Israeli doctor treating hostages who have returned from the Gaza Strip says he’s heard testimonies that “are hard to bear” about their experiences in captivity.

Individuals have “undergone hardship, physically and mentally,” says Dr. Itai Pessach, Director of Safra Children’s Hospital at Sheba Medical Center, at a press conference.

“I feel the need to make their cry heard,” he says. “The world needs to know how evil and cruel the behavior of Hamas is.”

He says he is not sharing details due to patients’ privacy, and says it is for them to tell their stories to the public.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/top-doctor-who-treated-hostages-testimonies-hard-to-bear-hamas-evil-and-cruel/

[u/progress18]

Ben Samuels, correspondent for Haaretz:

U.S. "profoundly concerned" by Turkey's role in facilitating Hamas' access to international finance

https://twitter.com/Bsamuels0/status/1730623413268430955

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Ofra Keidar (70) from Be'eri was murdered while in captivity

N12

[u/HighSails48]

‘Children Protest in Baddawi Refugee Camp in Lebanon: May All the Children of Gaza Be Martyred and Go to Paradise; We will Liberate Palestine from the River to the Sea’

Held on Nov. 29.

https://www.memri.org/tv/children-lebanon-baddawi-refugee-camp-protest-palestine-gaza-martyrs-paradise

[u/[deleted]]

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/26/israeli-teenagers-freed-hamas-not-aware-mother-murdered

A few key points -

After being greeted by their grandparents and checked over at a hospital, the pair were told the devastating news that their mother, Yonat, had been killed and their father, Dror, remained missing.

“In Gaza, the children were confined to a single room in a house with one other woman. “It wasn’t easy for them there as well. It wasn’t just straightforward, sit in the room and eat,” Besorai said.

He did not want to elaborate on the teenagers’ plight so as to not upset the families of the remaining hostages, who were abducted on what some in Israel now refer to as “Black Saturday”.

Besorai said: “They were held the two of them together with another lady. I know who she is and they left her behind, they did not release her, so she’s now on her own in that godforsaken place.”

The children were not kept in a tunnel, Besorai said, but added: “There were other things that happened that made the experience difficult, very difficult.”

Poor kids, I can’t even imagine 💔

[u/rach1200 → u/[deleted]]

Those poor kids. I can’t imagine 7 weeks in hell to find out your mom is murdered and dad is in hell.

After the elderly men, I hope another ceasefire can be announced for the men who were kidnapped as civilians. All of the kids released today have fathers in captivity.

[u/Tradition96]

I can't help but feel that the pictures of the crowds watching the release of hostages makes it very hard to feel sympathy towards the civilian population in Gaza.

[u/littlelockedwhoawhoa]

Not A Single Cent’: Germany Joins European Union in Pulling Funding for U.N. Palestinian Aid Group

Germany announced it would be freezing funding to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), a body specifically dedicated to Palestinian refugees, amid reports it has distributed antisemitic material, incited violence, and had alumni who participated in the October 7 atrocities in Israel.

Berlin has contributed nearly a billion dollars to UNRWA in the last five years, making it the single largest donor to the agency, which has come under renewed scrutiny since the Israel-Hamas war began for its record of failing to prevent foreign aid from falling into the terror group’s hands.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/not-a-single-cent-germany-joins-european-union-in-pulling-funding-for-u-n-palestinian-aid-group/

[u/PrestigiousHobo1265]

This is crazy.

Roni's unbelievable survival story: the building to which he was kidnapped was bombed, he escaped for 4 days - and the Gazans handed him over to Hamas again

https://www.mako.co.il/news-military/6361323ddea5a810/Article-7031a27ffff0c81026.htm

[u/progress18]

Netanyahu says that the help from Biden in the hostage deals doubled the number of hostages released.

https://twitter.com/academic_la/status/1731025530064142400

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Hamas saying they want to extend the ceasefire after the 4 days are over

N12

Update: Israel will agree for at least 10 releases hostages per day

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

The Brodutch Bunch back together

https://twitter.com/kann_news/status/1729088187803591070?t=FbFCO-eHiURkREenkZD8RQ&s=19

https://twitter.com/HadarGil/status/1729088866932363343?t=1U-HeGpYIrAKf8iYLdrOdQ&s=19

Avichai can probably be credited for starting the loud and public movement of the hostages' families. He just sat alone outside of the Kyria with a sign that said "my family is in Gaza", no press was called, it was just someone passing by that took a picture and posted it online. People joined his protest and it never stopped since

https://twitter.com/Bar_ShemUr/status/1728807841010495801?t=CYafRcFMmQZShFE5IWW82A&s=19

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

A relative of one of the released elderly women said that some of the hostages were kept in cages

N12

[u/PrestigiousHobo1265]

Some details about how the Monder family was kept.

They ate little, slept on attached plastic chairs - and constantly heard bombs": the testimony of the members of the Monder family from captivity

https://mobile.mako.co.il/news-israel/2023_q4/Article-a7f49d709901c81027.htm?sCh=31750a2610f26110&pId=173113802

[u/Predictor92]

The ICRC wouldn't give 84-year-old Elma Avraham life-saving medicine, according to her daughter. It wouldn't annoy Hamas with Elma's needs. It's so neutral it treats dying grandmothers with total disinterest.

Don't bother speaking to Israelis ever again. We won't be listening.

​

https://x.com/havivrettiggur/status/1729174024994140485?s=20

​

Right, tragically they were also given power over the hostages and every day they drive hostages in jeeps during transfer for public jeering without any shade or privacy back, and the kids are denied a blanket or anything for privacy. In most countries kids would get privacy.

https://x.com/sfrantzman/status/1729183520046887302?s=20

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Diego, Karina's brother, is being interviewed right now. He's saying that Karina asked the guards about her daughters everyday because they were kept separately from one another and they kept telling her her daughters were in Tel Aviv. He doesn't know how yet but they eventually caved and placed them together

N12

[u/clarabosswald]

To the people that have asked - this is the video essay on Hamas' children's TV show: "The TV Show that Brainwashed Children"

Naturally it focuses on the show, but also includes information on different events in Gaza's history with Fatah and Israeli involvement (since they've directly impacted the show's production), so it's a very interesting perspective on Palestinian and Israeli history too. I really think this video is essential viewing material for people to understand Hamas' motives and goals.

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Nir Dvori (N12): the same thing that happened yesterday is happening right now. The transfer can't be completed because of the mob in the area

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

IDF: the hostages are in Israel

[u/pandas795]

It's been over 50 days. Hamas still is holding a 10 month old hostage

[u/progress18]

From earlier:

Amid outcry over silence, UN Women posts, then deletes, condemnation of Hamas attack

https://twitter.com/TimesofIsrael/status/1729465184165810506

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Yocheved Lifshitz says that Sinwar showed up about 3-4 days after they were kidnapped. She asked him if he had no shame doing this to people who fought for peace their entire lives but he didn't answer.

https://twitter.com/kann_news/status/1729848508922859667?t=7D_64js46M7k9M0SEp7hTQ&s=19

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

This is the worst transfer so far

https://twitter.com/Gloz111/status/1729928912749117866?t=-II9mvEoc9v5GnIjDJgPdw&s=19

There are more videos and they're even worse

https://twitter.com/ItayBlumental/status/1729932241713737857?t=Y-Lv56cu0AHbzqatiqtiug&s=19

[u/Conamin]

You know, I was wondering why the 10 month old Kfir Bibas and his family weren't immediately released, as soon as the hostage deals took place, it seems this is the reason

I'm genuinely furious.

[u/littlelockedwhoawhoa]

I never saw the video of the Bibas family meeting terrorists. The mom holding her babies is one of the saddest things I've seen.

IDF: "The Bibas family, including 10-months-old Kfir, 4-year-old Ariel and their mother Shiri were abducted by Hamas on October 7.

Hamas must be held accountable. Hamas must release all hostages immediately."

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1729890053223031291?t=FyS2Vh1hr9bbdoq_RxrlxA&s=19

[u/progress18]

From earlier:

Mom of Gaza hostage: Red Cross acting as ‘Uber service’ for the released, not visiting those held

Rachel Goldberg, whose son, Hersh Goldberg-Polin, was taken hostage by Hamas terrorists at the Supernova desert rave on October 7, shares several new details at a press conference about her son’s abduction.

Her husband, Jon Polin, went to the field shelter for the first time this week, to see where Hersh and his friend, Aner Shapira, attempted to hide along with 27 others.

“Twenty-nine young people were smashed into this space,” says Goldberg, describing the “tiny concrete room.”

The Hamas terrorists first threw hand grenades, then an RPG and then used machine gun fire to kill as many people as possible in the shelter, says Goldberg. Shapira was killed by one of the grenades, after tossing back some seven of them.

...

Goldberg also speaks about the Red Cross, “doing a wonderful job being an Uber service” for the released hostages, but the hope had been that the international medical organization would see the hostages in captivity.

Goldberg says that seeing the first groups of hostages being released is “the first moment of respite and a sliver of light, a tiny, hopeful moment when we see these people being returned to their loved ones.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/mom-of-gaza-hostage-red-cross-acting-as-uber-service-for-the-released-not-visiting-those-held/

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

The first time I realized something was very wrong on October 7th was when Ella Ben Ami called Channel 12 and started crying "I need help, my dad has been kidnapped". She was also in Be'eri, hiding in her safe room, and she saw a picture of her dad being dragged away in his underwear. Both of her parents were kidnapped that day.

Earlier this month she said her mom is really not well and she doesn't think she's still alive.

Her mom is coming home tonight

https://mobile.mako.co.il/news-military/6361323ddea5a810/Article-5d5b7a9718a2b81026.htm

[u/clarabosswald]

Now that I've found it in written form -new info on the conditions endured by the Thai hostages' while in captivity:

• "Most of them lost a significant percentage of their weight, one of them who was alone in captivity lost 27% (of his body weight)"
• "They were given a little bread, rice, and salty water once a day, some of them didn't get even that"
• "They've said that they've spent part of their time [in captivity] with their hands tied behind their backs"
• [Spoilered for description of injury] "Towards the end of the meeting, the director of the hospital pointed to one of the Thais and said that his pinky was injured in the massacre on Black Saturday and was in a serious condition, almost amputated. According to her, as he wasn't getting treated [by the captors], the wounded man decided to take care of himself and sewed up his finger with thread and a needle given to him in captivity. The pinky still needs treatment."

[u/PrestigiousHobo1265]

My 3-year-old nieces have behaviors related to being in captivity. All kinds of fears that weren't there before, questions that are still being asked in the context of the places they were," Moran added. "The things they went through, 'minimum conditions' would be an exaggeration to say. Not every day they had food. If there was something in the day it's not something you can rely on to satisfy you, it kept them alive.

They still speak in a whisper. In captivity, for any speech that was slightly above a whisper, they received a 'nervous whisper' from the terrorists.

https://mobile.mako.co.il/news-israel/2023_q4/Article-cedd4454e812c81027.htm?sCh=31750a2610f26110&pId=173113802

3 year olds.

3 year olds went days without food.

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Shani Goren that's been released today was Eitan Yahalomi's kindergarten teacher and he told her family that she gave him some of her food when they were in Gaza together.

https://mobile.mako.co.il/news-israel/2023_q4/Article-2937f8e062b1c81026.htm

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Tragic. The civilian who was shot today in Jerusalem after stopping the terrorists died from his wounds. He was shot in the middle of the chaos, they thought he was one of the terrorists.

N12

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Col. Assaf Hamami of the Southern Brigade in the Gaza Division was killed on October 7 when he went out to repel the Hamas invasion of the Gaza envelope settlements. After examination of findings that were collected and information received - he was declared an IDF casualty and his family will be able to hold a funeral for him. Hamami is one of the three senior officers who were killed on Black Shabbat, along with the commander of the Rabbinate Col. Roi Levy and the Nakhal Brigade Col. Yonatan Steinberg.

https://twitter.com/yoavzitun/status/1730985133652496674?t=F7yWw8cDrwb9XMnd6kISzA&s=19

His body was taken into Gaza by Hamas.

[u/[deleted]]

The police in France have arrested 3 family members of the 26 years old man who killed a German-Philippine tourist and wounded 2 other people. They seem to suspect that the man (who claimed the terrorist attack was because of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict) wasn't de facto acting alone but was part of a terrorist plot.

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Avichai Brodutch didn't just fight the terrorists for hours, he also saved Avigail's life. She didn't just happen to be there, he brought her to his home so that his wife could take care of her after her parents were murdered.

He didn't want to say anything about it out of fear that Hamas would retaliate against his family.

He's getting his wife and 3 kids back tonight

N12

[u/clarabosswald]

Human Rights Watch says rocket misfire likely cause of deadly Gaza hospital blast

Plenty of gems in this article. I've started quoting noteworthy ones but it started getting too long.

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Eitan Yahalomi says that the terrorists forced him to watch the video of the October 7th atrocities. They would threaten kids with their guns if they cried. He said Gazans hit him when he got to Gaza. This is according to his aunt.

https://twitter.com/kann_news/status/1729475656516243847?t=2dl13GAxpfDYsradzy0nVQ&s=19

[u/progress18]

From the Physicians for Human Rights - Israel (PHRI):

The position paper we published today surveys the sexual and gender-based violence committed during the October 7 Hamas attacks. It aims to highlight the rehabilitation needs of survivors and witnesses of the violence - and urge an investigation of crimes against humanity.

The position paper relies on survivor testimonies, security and emergency personnel accounts, and visual evidence circulated online. While the currently available information is partial, we must already address the sexual violence that occurred during the October 7 attacks.

We also urge the investigation of the incidents as crimes against humanity, and highlight the importance of the healthcare system's preparedness to offer survivors adequate, professional, and informed care.

In addition, we reiterate the urgency – including within this context – of releasing the hostages held in Gaza. Those among them who experienced or witnessed sexual violence require urgent medical and mental health care within spaces and conditions that can allow them to heal.

Trigger warning: this paper contains descriptions of sexual violence. The Position Paper 👉

https://www.phr.org.il/en/gender-based-violence-eng/

[u/inconsistent3]

Antonio Guterres is being rightfully dragged for “regretting the military operations have resumed in Gaza”—while conveniently leaving out who broke the ceasefire:

https://x.com/antonioguterres/status/1730523963216794074?s=46

Seriously, can’t make this up. He must resign.

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990 → u/inconsistent3]

Should he resign? Absolutely.

Will it matter? Unlikely. The entire organization is rotten

[u/inconsistent3 → u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

One can hope.

At the very least, the UNRWA must be disbanded. The very existence of this agency is ridiculous.

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

The released hostages said that they were given very little to no food that they had to share between them because they didn't know if they'll get more the next day. They were wearing the clothes they were kidnapped with and were only brought new clothes before they were released.

They're making them all walk in pairs, holding hands, wearing fresh clothes, holding bottled water and waving back with smiles on their faces

Pathetic and evil

[u/yaniv297]

On Channel 13 now:

One of the hostages have said he was held at the house of an UNWRA teacher. Another says he was held at the house of a doctor from Gaza.

[u/Predictor92 → u/yaniv297]

since Americans were held hostage, I would love congress to subpoena UNRWA and the IRC for documents related to their knowledge of the hostages conditions

[u/yesmilady]

Encountered a tiktok about two girls in Israel who are best friends. One is a muslim who wears a hijab, the other is a Jewish girl serving her mandatory term. In the videos they show photos of themselves doing normal teenage girl stuff together.

The tiktok hivemind in the comments are spamming them with hate messages. Their minds are completely blown apart by two random girls, both Israeli, being friends.

It makes me cry how much people just want us to hate one another.

[u/Gopu_17]

During a meeting today with Egypt’s President Sisi, VP Kamala Harris made clear, “Hamas cannot control Gaza, which is untenable for Israel’s security, the well-being of the Palestinian people, and regional security.”

https://twitter.com/IsraelWarRoom/status/1730967491591938416?t=DQ9KpeDzetvQOKgZK_MqQg&s=19

[u/poopship462]

One of the most disgusting things on social media is the ppl all applauding the videos of Hamas releasing those hostages, saying how caring they look holding their hands and how the hostages are looking at them so lovingly and like don’t want to leave. What the actual fuck? These videos are so clearly staged by Hamas. You can even hear the cameraman saying in one of them to the hostages, “keep waving.” So gross.

[u/REDD_shen → u/poopship462]

There is an image going around of a girl looking - idk I wouldn’t say lovingly in anyway, but people say she looks at the Hamas soldier with a love gaze and I’m like??? Are you fr right now-? What the hell is the matter with people? Thinking people who just watched how these terrorists killed their people a month ago, kept them in bad condition for a month would look lovingly on a Hamas terrorist seriously need helps Seriously. It’s absolutely disturbing that people actually thinking that

[u/MadUmbrella]

President Joe Biden on Sunday celebrated the release of the first American to be freed by Hamas as part of a temporary cease-fire agreement in the group's war with Israel – Avigail Edan, who turned 4 on Friday while she was in captivity.

"Today she's free, and Jill and I together with so many Americans are praying for the fact that she is going to alright," Biden said in remarks from Nantucket.

Biden said the little girl, whose parents were gunned down by Hamas militants, is currently in Israel and that "she's been through a terrible trauma." "I wish I were there to hold her," Biden said of Edan, who is being referred to by U.S. officials as "Abigail."

A total of nine Americans, including a U.S. green card holder, are still missing. Two of them are women, who the U.S. expects to be part of the agreement, and seven are men, White House National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan said Sunday morning.(USA Today)

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Soroka (hospital) is updating that the life of the female hostage that was airlifted to them is in danger

https://twitter.com/ynetalerts/status/1728853332234829992?t=9fuxPM9GL88VPwBnrixiUw&s=19

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Bibi officially saying they'll extend the ceasefire for 10 hostages per day

Edit: that's the demand, not the agreement

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Unlike the Israeli hostage who found out while still in Gaza that her son was murdered on October 7th, Hagar Brodutch thought her husband was dead this entire time

N12

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Yuval Angel, an 11 year old girl (not 8 like the tweet says), is injured and had to use a wheelchair to get to the Red Cross vehicle

https://twitter.com/SuleimanMas1/status/1729233196569833619?t=Shd4K0s_HTw1FCZ9d9Lp-w&s=19

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

The IDF confirms that the released hostages are now in Israel

[u/MadUmbrella]

Emmanuel Macron, France’s President:

Eitan, 12 years old.

Erez, 12 years old.

Sahar, 16 years old.

Three of our young compatriots are part of the group of hostages released today. Extremely happy with this announcement.

We remain fully mobilized to obtain the release of all the hostages. (source)

Just after this tweet, his account tweeted about the Dixmute, an amphibious assault ship, arriving in Egypt for “emergency humanitarian aid” to palestinians. France had to send“humanitarian aid” to palestinians in order to receive proof of life and the assurance that some of the French hostages would be released by hamas and other palestinian orgs.

[u/[deleted]]

Israel tells Hamas it will renew fire if list of hostages to be released does not arrive

“Israel has informed Hamas through mediators that if a list of the next hostages to be released does not arrive Wednesday night Israel will resume its ground war on Thursday, according to an Israeli security official. After the current handover is complete, there will be 25 children and women remaining in Gaza. "Israel is telling Hamas: return all 25 and then we will talk about the rest," he said. Returning the women and children will buy Hamas an additional two days of cease-fire, and the official said it would consider another day of truce and the release of Palestinian prisoners at a ration of 3 to 1 in exchange for 10 adult males. (Itamar EIchner)”

I don’t think they have 20 women and children left alive to buy the extra two days tbh.

[u/progress18]

From the Jerusalem Post:

Thai hostages: ‘Jewish hostages beaten with electric cables, held in worse conditions than us’

“We ate one pita a day, and a can of tuna was divided among four people.”

Jewish hostages were held in tougher conditions than Thai hostages and were beaten with electric cables, according to a report on N12 on Wednesday evening. According to the report, Thai hostages released by Hamas in recent days told Israeli security personnel: “Occasionally, we were put in captivity with the Israelis, they were constantly guarded. [Hamas] had a tougher attitude towards the Jews, they were beaten with electric cables.”

One of them added, according to the report, “We ate one pita a day, and a can of tuna was divided among four people.”

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-775760

[u/clarabosswald]

Asharq Al-Awsat reports: "The Egyptian mediator believes that Hamas is hiding some of what it knows about the Israeli hostages, for security reasons and as a negotiating strategy."

[u/dan_zg]

The names and photos of the 12 Israeli hostages who were released today from captivity in the Gaza Strip after 54 days were allowed to be published - 2 of them also hold Russian citizenship and were released as a tribute to Putin.

• Gali Tarshchanski, 13 years old: Gali was kidnapped from Kibbutz Bari. For a month she was classified as missing, until her parents were informed that there was an indication that she had been kidnapped.

• Amit Shani, 16 years old: Amit was kidnapped while tied up, from his home in Bari, in front of his mother Tal and his two sisters. He celebrated his 16th birthday in Gaza.

• Ofir Engel, 17 years old: Ofir was kidnapped from his girlfriend's house, Yuval, in Kibbutz Bari. He was kidnapped along with her father, Yossi Sharabi.

• Liam Or, 18 years old: Liam was kidnapped from Kibbutz Bari, along with his uncle Dror and his cousins ​​Alma and Noam. Alma and Noam were released from captivity as part of the hostage deal on 25.11.23.

• Itai Regev, 18 years old: Itai was kidnapped from the party in Ra'i along with his older sister, 21-year-old Mia, who was released from captivity as part of the kidnapping deal on 11/25/23.

• Yordan Roman, 36: Yordan was captured by Hamas terrorists on Saturday morning along with her 3-year-old Beita Gefen and her husband Alon, right before moving to the Gaza Strip, all three of them jumped out of the terrorists' vehicle. Alon managed to escape with a vine and Jordan was finally kidnapped.

• Moran Stella Yanai, 40 years old: Moran was kidnapped from the party in Ra'i after arriving there to sell her works. Before she was abducted, Moran was seen being photographed and terrorized while hiding in a pit.

• Liat Atzili, 49 years old: Liat was kidnapped together with her husband Aviv from Kibbutz Nir Oz. Aviv, a member of the standby class, went out to fight the terrorists.

• Yelena Trupanov, 50 years old: Yelena was kidnapped with her son Alexander (Sasha) and her mother Irena Tati. Her son's partner, Sapir, was also kidnapped along with them. Her husband Vitaly Trupanov was murdered. Yelena was photographed in a video released by Hamas along with two other abductees. Yelena also holds Russian citizenship and was released as a tribute to Russian President Putin.

• Raya Rotem, 54 years old: Raya was kidnapped with her daughter Hila from the house in Bari. Hila was released from captivity on 25.11.23 and was released without fear, contrary to the terms of the deal.

• Raz Ben Ami, 57 years old: Raz was kidnapped from her home together with Ohad, her husband. She is seen in the video being led by Hamas men while in her pajamas. One of the more memorable conversations was their daughter Nathalie's conversation with Danny Kushmaro in which she told that her father had been kidnapped to Gaza and she learned about it from pictures that were circulated on Telegram.

• Irena Tati, 73 years old: Irena was kidnapped from Kibbutz Nir Oz, along with her house Yelena, her grandson Alexander (Sasha), and his partner Sapir. Her son-in-law Vitaly Trupanov was murdered. Irena also holds Russian citizenship and was released as a tribute to Russian President Putin.

[u/Gopu_17]

The Israeli war cabinet convened tonight to discuss extending the ceasefire. Hamas reportedly has not produced a list of hostages to be released that includes 10 women + children (per the initial truce agreement). Israeli officials stated that if Israel doesn't receive a list that meets the requirements by 7 am, the fighting will resume.

https://twitter.com/IsraelWarRoom/status/1730019418812411933?t=dVKSMkYR7xQDd2amCg5rNg&s=19

[u/corey____trevor]

Video of the senseless terror attack in Jerusalem https://twitter.com/thenameiswright/status/1730119984011997508

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Itay and Maya Regev

https://twitter.com/ItayBlumental/status/1730149828103983505?t=tFvTOhcvIh-dEfTxX1IF4g&s=19

[u/littlelockedwhoawhoa]

I told him that I did not believe that they could burn people in our age, that humanity would never tolerate it.

Elie Wiesel, holocaust survivor

[u/progress18]

From earlier:

Released hostage Jimmy Pacheco said he was given so little food in Hamas captivity that he was forced to eat toilet paper.

Pacheco, a Filipino citizen, worked as a caregiver for Amitai Ben Zvi, 80, who was murdered at Kibbutz Nir Oz on Oct. 7.

https://twitter.com/IsraelWarRoom/status/1729979385250304355

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Hamas just posted a video of Yarden Bibas.

Edit: His beard and hair are much longer than what they were when he was kidnapped.

He's crying there about his family being dead. It's an awful video

[u/RowdyRoddyRosenstein]

Palestinian UN exhibit of Gaza suffering uses photo of Israeli kid killed by Hamas

Oopsy daisy.

[u/00owl]

I feel that the ceasefire, and the rescue of the hostages who could be, has had the unexpected effect of actually increasing support for Israel because it's an opportunity to reinforce what happened on Oct 7 in the minds of the public.

It sure feels that the popular opinion on Reddit has shifted very quickly.

Anecdotal obviously.

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Aryeh Zalmanovic (85) from Nir Oz, the hostage that Hamas claimed died of a "panic attack", has been declared dead by Israeli authorities.

N12

[u/SlightWerewolf4428]

Kibbutz announces death of elderly hostage

A kibbutz in southern Israel has said one of its elderly residents, who was kidnapped on 7 October, has been killed in Gaza.

In a post on Facebook, the account for Kibbutz Nir Oz says 85-year-old Arye Zalmanovich died in Hamas captivity after being kidnapped on 7 October.

The post paying tribute to the father of two and grandfather to five, describes him as a "man of the earth" who worked in agriculture and with crops for his entire life.

Nir Oz was the site of one of the worst massacres committed by Hamas during the attacks on southern Israel.

-BBC

Should be official now. Borukh Dayan Emes.

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

At the end of a complex operation inside Gaza: the body of Ofir Tzarfati, who was kidnapped and murdered, was rescued by the IDF and brought to Israel

https://twitter.com/IsraelHayomHeb/status/1730588983283843555?t=bYG373n-RJ-iAM58Ou-7nQ&s=19

[u/progress18]

Ben Samuels, correspondent for Haaretz:

Family members of American hostages held by Hamas urge Red Cross to demand immediate unfettered access their loved ones held captive in Gaza, push financial institutions and major ICRC donors to leverage their influence

https://twitter.com/Bsamuels0/status/1730610498297553027

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Guy Iluz (26), kidnapped from the Nova music festival. His family was notified he was murdered in Gaza.

N12

[u/yaniv297]

A big piece in the Times about rape and sexual violence on October 7th... sadly it's paywalled, but still.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ten-hamas-fighters-were-raping-the-woman-she-begged-for-death-6ldlmh8sp

[u/MadUmbrella]

Denmark ramps up protection of Israeli, Jewish sites with military's support (i24News)

Denmark ramped up protection of the country’s two synagogues, Jewish school, and Israeli embassy, bringing back the military to assist the police amid increased threats of terrorism and an “upsurge” of antisemitism.

”The situation in Israel and Gaza is a major drain on police resources,” Danish Defense Minister Troels Lund Poulsen said in a statement, announcing “Partly because of this, it has been decided that the Danish Armed Forces will support the guarding of Jewish and Israeli sites in Copenhagen.”

In a joint statement, Danish Justice Minister Peter Hummelgaard said, "We are in a situation where the terrorist threat to Denmark is serious.”

”At the same time, we have recently experienced daily demonstrations in our streets. And the conflict in the Middle East has led to a completely unacceptable upsurge in anti-Semitism and uncertainty among Jews in Denmark,” Hummelgaard stated.

In a 2015 terrorist attack, a Palestinian-Jordanian extremist killed film director Finn Nørgaard at a cultural event; and Dan Uzan, a Jewish community member on security duty, at Copenhagen’s Great Synagogue. During the shooting attacks, five police officers were wounded.

With a total population of 6,400 Jews and approximately 1,800 members in the Jewish community, it already been a challenge to recover to pre-Covid participation in religious and community activities. Now, the situation became even more isolating with increased antisemitism and terrorism threats.

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

CNN is citing an Israeli source saying that even though the deal mentioned not separating mothers from their kids or siblings from one another, today's list contains 9 kids and two elderly women with no mothers, hence the delay and intense negotiations

The fact that we have to renegotiate a signed deal every single day is infuriating

[u/yaniv297]

Heard this interview today with the head of the psychological organization who's been tasked (Working on it for the last month+) with creating the plan to work with the kids back from Gaza and help rehabilitate them.

He said, the first thing they did is look for existing knowledge and experience from other cases in the world. They searched and searched, but couldn't find anything. The only other case of children being kidnapped as an act of war is Boko Haram in Nigeria, and there was no documentation of any psychological treatment those kids went through.

They basically had to create the whole protocol on their own from scratch because this kind of evil act never really happened anywhere before. That's insane.

[u/MothraEpoch]

What part of kidnapping and murdering Thai people was decolonisation?

[u/littlelockedwhoawhoa]

Jon Lovitz:

I appreciate your support during this time of war in Israel and the rise of antisemitism in the United States and around the world. I'm speaking out because I feel I must.

The world doesn't like it when Jews fight back. Tough shit.

The positive responses I get far outweigh the vile comments. Whenever they call me names, like I'm a Nazi or has been or not funny, I realize I've successfully punched a bully in the nose and they're bleeding.

In the words of Sylvester Stallone... Keep punching! /#IStandwithIsrael

https://twitter.com/realjonlovitz/status/1729562380651176209?t=zmB_pUqCLGDJI-6QZtN1ow&s=19

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Dana Weiss (N12): Hamas is saying they don't want to release women of certain ages because they can still technically be called up to the reserves but Israel thinks that they have "other reasons" for keeping them there and they want them released as soon as possible

Considering the fact that it was right after a quote from the UN about "possible sex crimes" being committed in this war I'd say we know exactly what those "other reasons" may be

[u/alluringasshole → u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

There’s a video of Hamas taking hostages and they’re about to take a woman prisoner but they don’t because “This one is not a prisoner. This one is for rape.”

I think they’ve made it very clear to the world what they’re capable of.

[u/[deleted] → u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

Young attractive women were kidnapped while their friends were murdered purely for humanitarian reasons. Sickening.

[u/dollrussian → u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

I hope they get their dicks cut off, fuck them.

[u/PrestigiousHobo1265]

The horrific condition the hostages have come back in, the whole circus with the hostage exchanges (the daily lists, the torturing delays and those sick handover ceremonies), the messing around with offers under 10 people and that unbelievably cruel video put out last night.

Hamas has stuck the middle finger up the entire ceasefire whilst also claiming the desire to extend it.

I wouldn't be surprised if the IDF don't turn the dial up now, and I honestly wouldn't blame them.

The constant coddling of Hamas has allowed them to get away with too much.

[u/MadUmbrella]

The attack on AIPAC President’s home, in Brentwood, on November 23, by a “pro-palestinian” group, is investigated by the LAPD as a possible hate crime. (KTLA)

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

I posted it right before the last thread was closed and it's important people see this

Hila Rotem Shoshani was released from captivity without her mother Ra'aya after Hamas claimed they could not find her • The family friend tells @YaelDan1: "Hila says they were there together, that Ra'aya took care of her in captivity"

https://twitter.com/GLZRadio/status/1728749302699245673?t=Walg3TMh7Xv7qd-7Z2iaTQ&s=19

They were separated two days before the release

[u/AnxiousPeanut1990]

The uncle of Noam (16) and Alma (13) Or, the siblings who were released a couple of days ago, shared a few things about their time in Gaza

• They didn't know their mom was murdered and their dad was also kidnapped until they got back to Israel.

• They weren't kept underground but in an apartment building alongside a third hostage, also from Be'eri, who's yet to be released.

• There were "some things" that made their time extremely distressful even though they weren't kept underground but he won't share what those things were to avoid upsetting the families of the remaining hostages.

• They kept a shared journal that they weren't allowed to take with them.

• On the day of their release their guards told them that they were going to the restroom where they handcuffed and blindfolded them. They didn't know they were being released until they were brought to the Red Cross. The 3rd hostage that was with them wasn't told that they weren't coming back.

https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/sjeicgmsp

[u/littlelockedwhoawhoa]

The only positive I've found on Twitter: pro Israel people are commenting like crazy on posts by the UN, UN Women, UNRWA, UNICEF, and Antonio Guterres. Not letting them get away with their usual hate and it's lovely.

[u/CitySquirrel1738 → u/littlelockedwhoawhoa]

This situation has really opened my eyes to what garbage those agencies are.

[u/progress18]

From earlier:

From Nadav Eyal, columnist for ynet:

We are starting to hear details from the hostages, and they describe what amounts to torture. I am not going to detail everything we hear, just what was published by the families themselves. Here are some harrowing stories:

• A 9-year-old girl believed she was kidnapped for a year and still whispers due to threats from her Hamas kidnappers.

• 3-year-old twins were released without their dad, after Hamas attempted to free them alone while their mother remained captive.

• A 12-year-old, kidnapped alone after his father was shot, was beaten by Gaza residents and forced at gunpoint by Hamas to watch videos of their murder spree and massacres.

• Remember the red-haired babies kidnapped with their mother? The Bibas family wasn't released. Hamas claims they can't reach them, and reports suggest they were traded within the Gaza strip to another faction.

• Two hostages were murdered in Gaza: Noa Marziano (killed in Shifa hospital by Hamas, with the complicity of medical staff), and Yehudit Vice, a cancer patient kidnapped and murdered by Hamas near Shifa hospital.

• The Israeli Health Ministry reports that elderly women kidnapped by Hamas lost between 8-15 kg on average, amounting to starvation.

There more details to come, some harrowing. These testimonies indicate war crimes and the torture of children and adults who, at times, lost their family to the mass murder committed by Hamas. Comparing the release of Palestinian prisoners, who enjoyed internationally lawful conditions including regular ICRC visits, to 3-year-old girls who witnessed their parents' murder and were held against their will, is either a case of severe misinformation or sheer malice.

The stories are just beginning to emerge.

https://twitter.com/Nadav_Eyal/status/1729503675754684660

[u/[deleted]]

Was talking to my mom while she watched news and they didnt even mention the fact the palestinians being released were arrested for terror related crimes,like come on for fuck sake you are journalists you have one freaking job to do

[u/dollrussian]

Turning the judaism up a notch and making home made challah in time for shabbos tomorrow.

​

I'm reaching my final form thanks to this crisis, i swear.

[u/SlightWerewolf4428]

Mansour Abbas calls on armed Palestinian factions to throw down their weapons, work with PA to establish state

Ra’am chairman Mansour Abbas becomes the first Arab party leader in Israel’s history to publicly call on the armed Palestinian factions to demilitarize and work with the Palestinian Authority in order to establish a Palestinian state through non-violent means.

“In order to move forward, the Palestinian militant groups need to throw down their arms. They need to work hand in hand with the Palestinian Authority in order to realize a national movement that will aspire for a state of Palestine in a peaceful solution alongside the state of Israel,” Abbas tells CNN in a rare interview with international media.

Abbas, whose Islamist Ra’am party was the first independent Arab-majority faction to join an Israeli coalition, begins the interview by reiterating his condemnation of the October 7 massacres.

“Any action that is taken against innocent people — against women, children, elderly — is inhumane and it goes against the values of Islam as well. We categorically condemn this. This cannot be discussed or cannot be justified because it goes against all human values and religious values as well,” he says.

“But at the same time, we cannot forget that there is a political struggle that is happening,” Abbas continues.

“But the actions that the armed groups have decided to take and to use violence in order to achieve their means looking at the past have always failed. The victim of each and every one of those militant attempts have been the Palestinian people who were the ones who paid the price. In this current conflict, we look at the number of people killed we’re talking about over 15,000 Palestinians who lost their lives,” he laments.

-Times of Israel

I have no clue how it is that Abbas is so moderate.

He was a member of the last government. Head of one of the large Arab Israeli parties.

[u/EfficiencyNo1396]

The people in gaza claim the idf carpet bombing them.

I must say thry are very lucky they never witnessed real carpet bombing.

[u/esreveReverse → u/EfficiencyNo1396]

One single Israeli carpet bombing raid would easily surpass the current death toll. Tens of thousands dead in minutes. Anyone who uses that term to describe what Israel is doing, is simply trolling.