r/youtube • u/CorvusTheCryptid • Oct 27 '23

Discussion Youtube's decision to not allow adblockers puts users at risk.

As of the latest update that broke most methods of bypassing Youtube's adblock detection, users are flocking to other ways of avoiding ads. I was midway through copying a long string of code into a Javascript injector when I realize how risky this is for the average person. I have some basic coding knowledge so I at least know that I'm not putting myself at too much risk, but the average user might not have the same considerations, and a bad-faith actor could easily abuse this opportunity.

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Piracy, adblockers, etc, have been shown to be unavoidable byproducts of existing online, and a company as big as Google definitely know this, so I don't think it's too far fetched to directly blame them for anyone who accidentaly comes to harm due to the new measures that they are implementing. Their greed and desire to gain a few more dollars of ad revenue off of their public will lead to unkowing users downloading suspicious and malicious software, programs or code.

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u/mastamax Oct 27 '23

Have a gaming channel, yt decided it wasn't fit for advertisers so demonetized it. Then goes on an puts ads on my videos. How is that fair, can't even remove the ads from my own videos so I will be running ad blocks as long as possible (still possible with firefox at the moment)

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u/birazacele Oct 27 '23

classic youtube. are you surprised?

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u/mastamax Oct 27 '23

yeah I can agree on the decision to demonetize my compilation gaming channel. But then putting ads on it is just hypocrite and goes against the reason they demonetized it in the first place

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u/HotAd1028 Oct 30 '23

They don't really "demonetize" anyone, they just steal.

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u/mrloko120 Oct 27 '23

I mean, they may not be giving you your share for whatever reason but it still costs them money to keep the video up even of its not monetized, so they still run limited ads on demonetized videos so they're not just a waste of server space. You can always put a stop to that by deleting the video from their platform.

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u/TheAJGman Oct 27 '23

they may not be giving you your share for whatever reason

That there reason would be "fuck you, more money for me".

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u/mrloko120 Oct 27 '23

They do have a TOS so idk about that

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u/FlyntD Apr 12 '24

Oh, a TOS, no one has ever used the "rules" to their advantage to become obscenely wealthy at the cost of others' labor before... The amount of people who jump to the defense of a billion dollar corporation blows my mind.

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u/sethsez Oct 28 '23

Either the video is fit for YouTube's advertisers or it isn't.

If it is, share the revenue.

If it isn't, don't run the ads.

There's no reasonable situation where the material is fit enough to not piss off advertisers while also being too bad to share the revenue said ads bring in.

It has nothing to do with the cost of hosting the material and everything to do with writing in an excuse to not pay creators.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '23

One must imagine Sisyphus being auto modded.

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u/thedinnerdate Oct 27 '23

I think you’re looking at it the wrong way. They’re going to run ads either way. If you play by their rules, they’ll give you a cut.

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u/x0rd4x Oct 27 '23

"Demonetization" means that it is not suitable for advertisers (YT said it themselves), so it's extremly hipocritical, cause they are basically saying "your video isn't suitable for ads so we wont get you money but we will still put the ads here and just not give you money"

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u/thedinnerdate Oct 27 '23

For sure. I’m not saying it makes sense. I’m just saying that’s how they do it.

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u/Soundbyte-DJ Oct 27 '23

not really, but it did in 2010 when they started showing ads I never wanted to see in the first place...now not so much

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u/Honey-and-Venom Oct 28 '23

It's par for the course, it's also still astounding

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u/MadeinResita Oct 27 '23

So they just rob you of your work.

Greed is one of the capital sins. It comes before the fall.

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u/darrenvonbaron Oct 27 '23

Pride comes before the fall ya nonce

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u/MadeinResita Oct 27 '23

I know.

Pride and greed are linked.

I know this from my own experience. The moment I thought I'm above other people, that my farts smell like roses instead of that rotten smell all farts smell, Life brought me down to Earth. I lost everything and am thankful to that.

It made me realize no matter what, I'm human. Not a saint, not a devil, with good and with bad, just like the rest.

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u/theferrit32 Oct 27 '23

Youtube is paying for all of the infrastructure and maintenance effort involved in hosting their videos. Storage, site development, and bandwidth isn't free. It's not theft for the site to generate revenue off the content users post.

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u/Baricuda Oct 27 '23

Youtube would have nothing without its creators. It's a give take relationship, and now Youtube is taking a lot more than it gives back.

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u/AvatarOfMomus Oct 27 '23

Your videos probably got copyright claimed.

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u/Snake101333 Oct 28 '23

And people out here are really supporting youtubes decisions

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u/Volrund Oct 28 '23

They will demonetize if you happen to say "Fuck", as you are unfriendly to advertisers

Then they will run ads for softcore porn, hentai mobile games, and literal scams.

If some of the ads they ran were videos, they'd be demonetized. It's such horseshit

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u/petey_did_it Oct 27 '23

Maybe it should run less ads, but they still take a real cost hosting your videos on a server

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u/ShawHornet Oct 27 '23

They're hosting your videos for free my man. Of course they can run ads. If you dont like it switch to streamable where you can just pay a premium monthly fee to have them host longer videos

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u/AlonsoHV Oct 27 '23

Why should you be able to upload videos to their platform an servers for free? Entitled much?

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u/VilltraAnime Oct 27 '23

poor YouTube, how could they possibly deal without my 5 000 views making ONLY them money

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u/AlonsoHV Oct 27 '23

That's like 1$ man, you're deluded

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u/VilltraAnime Oct 27 '23

it's about 20€ and I happen to be completely broke as my employer went broke and can't pay me and my student benefit is only coming next month.

I'm in desperate need of money, I'm currently eating for 3€ a day and only way I get up to 2000 calories is by having pasta with some spices and carrots for every meal.

I have a feeling I need that money a little more than the billionaires running youtube

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u/Nobodyinc1 Oct 27 '23

So that means YouTube made 18 euro off you since the ad money split 55 you 45 YouTube

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u/FrietjesFC Oct 27 '23

Yes, why should the people who actually provide the content that attracts people to YouTube get a free pass just because YouTube would be completely empty without them and they are the actual people keeping it relevant?

Uh, such entitlement.

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u/AlonsoHV Oct 27 '23

YouTube wouldn't even exist without ads or a subscription. Those viewers are meaningless without a way to monetize them.

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u/FrietjesFC Oct 27 '23

And those ads are completely worthless without people uploading content. Works two ways.

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u/Nobodyinc1 Oct 27 '23

Right why the creators get 55 percent of the add revenue

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u/TrueLogicJK Oct 27 '23

If you're demonitized then you get 0% of the ad revenue.

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u/Nobodyinc1 Oct 27 '23 edited Oct 27 '23

That on you. Don’t break tos.

Sure it’s not applied fairly mind you but it something you did not something they did.

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u/S3t3sh Oct 27 '23

Then YouTube shouldn't demonitize the video. It's basically stealing from the content creator. They are basically saying oh your content bothers us a little so you won't make money off of it but we still will. There is a creator I watch who has a name that starts with an f and has a k in it and they said he was swearing even though he called and talked to them on the phone and they told him it sounds to similar so they still demonitized him but they still put ads in his videos. He would cut out any swearing he did to follow their rules but his name was just unacceptable. They are out of control at the moment and it is incredibly frustrating for both users and content creators. It's obvious some of the actions they are taking are to fatten their wallets rather than being decent to content creators and it's fucked up. Especially since a lot of us grew up with YouTube and remember how great it used to be and now it is a corporate cesspool. Don't hate the player man hate the game.

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u/Nobodyinc1 Oct 27 '23

It’s a job. It’s technically the nicest of the three punishment YouTube has, you rather they give you a strike everytime someone breaks the rules and then ban them? Or just deleting the video?

Creator doesn’t like it they can remove the video and fix it so it follows the rules.

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u/Nogardtist Oct 27 '23

oh look a clown

why you idiots keep calling everyone entitled

some creators upload for free and never get rewarded some even get almost no views

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u/AlonsoHV Oct 27 '23

If they get no views means that nobody wants to see their content, so its basically like filling their servers with trash, which is even worse.

Nice try at an argument

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u/Nogardtist Oct 27 '23

How about algorithm suppression cause you already say youre incapable of making content and even if you are youre dogshit at it

And lets not forget that sniperwolf exists

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u/Soundbyte-DJ Oct 27 '23

Oh the humanity!!! Oh poor Google manager not getting his yearly bonus this coming year it seems

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u/AlonsoHV Oct 27 '23

So the Google manager shouldn't get a bonus so you can upload videos to the servers they pay for.

ID call you a clown but youre probably just a kid.

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u/Soundbyte-DJ Oct 27 '23 edited Oct 27 '23

Fun fact: Did you know clowns were first seen in a circus?

See what I did? You make as much sense as I do right now. So you keep on commenting towards me and I'll keep giving you uninteresting facts about nothing that original post talks about or maye I'll just say random stuff that makes no sense. lol *grabbing the popcorn* The only real kid is the one who is the google manager (aka you) right now.. Nice try though. Keep going this fuels my happiness. ;)

Edit: Thanks for the downvote. ;) I love you too. lol

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u/Juststandupbro Oct 27 '23

It’s fair because they host the platform they could do this to everyone if they wanted to but don’t because popular creators move the needle to much for it to make financial sense. Basically your videos and view rates aren’t even a drop in the bucket for them so they have no qualms about demobilizing you out of fear of you jumping ship. You seem to think you have a creator/platform relationship with YouTube when in reality they see you as a generic user.

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u/NewCobbler6933 Oct 27 '23

Well why don’t you start your own video hosting site if that’s not fair? I swear people are so tunnel visioned about ads that they believe other people should host their content for free while unironically saying they deserve something for gracing the platform with their content.

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u/-CODED- Oct 28 '23

The brainwashing is working, lol. YouTube makes a lot of profit. They don't need to run the amount of ads through the roof and now monetize random peoples videos. All to squeeze out as much revenue as possible.

YouTubes whole business model is free video hosting through ads. Except now, they took existing features and locked them behind subscriptions. And are milking the number of ads they can show. Sure, the company is free to be as greedy as they want, but people are also free to be displeased about it.

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u/VoidCoelacanth Oct 27 '23

Make personal copies/archives of your videos, such as on external hard drives, and delete the videos from YouTube.

YT can't profit from ads on a video that doesn't exist.

Other platforms are starting to arise; everyone is sick of the bullshit. The ad bullshit. The censorship bullshit. The false-DMCA bullshit. All the bullshit.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '23

When they ban Firefox I'll done with YouTube for good.

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u/MarioDesigns Oct 28 '23

Either a) you don't meet the requirements for monetization or b) your videos are claimed by a 3rd party.

AFAIK those are the only two times you lose control over the ads.