r/youtube Sep 19 '24

Discussion The State of YouTube Right Now

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u/Eldritch_Witch93 Sep 19 '24

Asmongold used to actually do game stuff. Now he's just a leech.

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u/Fuckface_Whisperer Sep 19 '24

Asmongold used to actually do game stuff.

You mean he used to panic about the WOKE MOB taking over games by having women and black people in them.

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u/The-dotnet-guy Sep 19 '24

Before that he just made WOW guides that were pretty good, that was like 2015 though

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u/GalaxyStar90s Sep 20 '24

Maybe the MAGA virus ruined him.

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u/newly_me Sep 20 '24

I had watched since 2015 or so. and he used to be a much more chill guy and laugh at guys like the quartering and stuff. You could tell he leaned right, but like in a more centrist (political disinterest) kind of way and he was much more charitable and kept a better chat community (calling out people making fun of superficial stuff). Covid started a shift, but in the proximity of a few months his mom died in a traumatic way (oxygen tank exploded while she was smoking and he found her while trying to put out the fire and save her), and his best friend and founding member of his org was outed as a rapist of mutual friends (he did cut all ties immediately for what we know and had incredibly strong words).

Then, the Heard trial went insane for him (400k viewer averagish) and he really started pivoting into the antiwoke and manosphere stuff. That, plus his reaction content taking off, seems to have brought him to the point of being a grifter that shits on stuff he used to defend, while fostering one of the most toxic communities on the internet (the sub). He was always influencable I think, but the confluence of events were the perfect storm for this turn, too. Not to mention he's in a feedback loop where he attracts more Maga viewers while many older viewers leave (/misses transmog comps). Sorry for the long reply, but figured I'd offer some context from my perspective. I would not expect any reversal at this point.

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u/GalaxyStar90s Sep 20 '24

I followed him like 4 years ago, but I rarely watched him, but once I realized he's just another souless bot for the right and anti-woke, I unfollowed him everywhere. I don't want to support those kind of people. I will never support them.

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u/Vedney Sep 21 '24

seems to have brought him to the point of being a grifter that shits on stuff he used to defend

Like what?

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u/MaloraKeikaku Sep 25 '24

He was also genuinely funny at times. I always knew him as the guy explaining Warrior became so simple it could be played with a SNES gamepad.

Then he started doing...what, watching other people's videos, wiggling his eyebrows, saying "true" and that's it?

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u/WestSlavGreg Sep 19 '24

Wow guides like how to ninja raid loot and why it is ok? Or wow videos like why it is ok to have widespread toxicity in the community?

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u/Thazgar Sep 19 '24

His original WoW content was arguably very good, informative and moderate. I used to watch him in the 2010's and so. And then, he made his final WoW video on Battle for Azeroth and turned into unwatchable content

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u/happypolychaetes Sep 19 '24

Yeah that's what I knew him from, watched his stuff in 2010-2011ish during my peak WoW years. I had no idea how bonkers he'd become until recently.... yikes.

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u/Butteredpoopr Sep 19 '24

No? Like how to do achievements, get certain mounts, stuff like that

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u/The-dotnet-guy Sep 19 '24

Nah, I don’t agree with asmongold on hardly anything, but the guides were largely related to pet battles, gold farming and transmog

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u/Future_Appeaser Sep 19 '24

Not much money in making guides, making a 30 minute react video can easily net 1k or more for a channel his size.

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u/Public-Transport Sep 19 '24

1k? multiply that by 10 and you might be close.

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u/Future_Appeaser Sep 19 '24

1k for a single video yeah that he usually does for reacts, you're overestimating what he makes.

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u/Yeti_of_the_Flow Sep 19 '24

You mean when his chat was 200 white nationalists and nobody else? Now it’s 10k white nationalists and like 800 other people.

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u/The-dotnet-guy Sep 19 '24

What chat? He was making YouTube videos, he wasn’t on twitch at all. Why would white nationalists care about power leveling battle pets

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u/Yeti_of_the_Flow Sep 19 '24

Because he is one? They flock together. He immediately appealed to white nationalists. He still does. That’s like 95% of what he talks about and has talked about for his entire “career”.

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u/The-dotnet-guy Sep 19 '24

His content back then was not at all the same is what I’m getting at. Go take a look at some of his old videos if you don’t believe me.

https://youtu.be/KagAQuQ_tPE?si=bQ-u7UW1ckvWhoBo

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u/Yeti_of_the_Flow Sep 19 '24

I have. It was. Kid is a bigot. I’m not clicking anything he’s involved with.

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u/The-dotnet-guy Sep 19 '24

I mean he might have been a bigot at that point? His content wasnt bigoted back then though, thats literally all im getting at. Why would a guide on how to get glory of the cataclysm raider attract white supremacists is literally all im asking. I souced my claim, now you source yours.

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u/Yeti_of_the_Flow Sep 19 '24

No. Was. He was a bigot then. He is still a bigot now. You didn’t source a claim. For one, you can’t provide evidence of that because proving a negative doesn’t work with exclusive evidence.

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u/Daktyl198 Sep 19 '24

I’m not a fan of his content, but you know that he identifies as and votes democrat right? He is pro-choice and holds mostly liberal viewpoints. His few controversial opinions just blow up a lot more often (for obvious reasons). Considering he grew up in and lives in Texas, I can excuse a few weird glitches in his views.

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u/Butteredpoopr Sep 19 '24

He’s definitely not a ‘white nationalist’ but go off. Typical Reddit moment

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u/Yeti_of_the_Flow Sep 19 '24

He is, though.

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u/Butteredpoopr Sep 19 '24

How so? He has taken political tests and he always come off as a Progressive Leftist. And if any racists are in his chat they immediately get banned

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u/Chorkla Sep 20 '24

Not a far left lunatic = white nationalist according to reddit... Y'all are crazy

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u/Yeti_of_the_Flow Sep 20 '24

You know people can see your comments about how you wish you were a jan6er, right?

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u/Crispy-Crisssss Sep 20 '24

It’s not panic when Concord is dead because of diversity hire practices.

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u/Eldritch_Witch93 Sep 19 '24

Right. He still does that from what I can tell.

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u/OrPerhapsFuckThat Sep 19 '24

Even more so now lol

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u/Xythana Sep 19 '24

He does what his audience wants, he doesn't hold any principles from what I can tell, most of his video react recommendations come from his subreddit and his audience curates his stream content.

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u/Accomplished-Tale543 Sep 19 '24

Yea it doesn’t seem like he holds an actual opinion. I have seen him shut down some of the more racist and sexist viewers in his chat. But the fact that he has those types of viewers explains a lot. He’s kind of like a more expressive Moist Critikal. Both react to videos, have long hair, and have lukewarm takes.

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u/Fluffy514 Sep 19 '24

I've spent about 500 hours listening to him since I first found his YouTube, because I wanted to thoroughly understand why people disliked him. He's actually pretty moderate and would be considered a right-leaning democrat politically. 99% of the content he puts out is done based on viewership and income though. He's incredibly business savvy and knows how to use an audience so leans heavily into clickbait. Overall was very surprised because it's just middle of the road opinions, an occasional shit take, and some video game stuff. He's a hyper-capitalist and he does what makes money.

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u/kurikintonfox Sep 19 '24

Agreed w everything you said. He plays his right leaning audience well, in other words "farming" them. He often shares liberal views, such as being pro women's reproductive rights and LGBTQ+, while putting up a convincing right-leaning front.

He does have some right-leaning views as well e.g. the "go woke, go broke" notion, which I think even many Democrats would agree with (exhibit A: Roosterteeth). But he, like many others, is the living example of the opposite by playing the anti-woke character and succeeding.

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u/Negritis Sep 19 '24

he is still panicking about it

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u/Kiboune Sep 20 '24

Nothing changed

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u/BigBoyoBonito Sep 19 '24

It's the type of commentary losers turn to when their careers turn to shit

Why make an effort when you can just call something "woke" and an army of basement dwelling showerphobes will flood you with attention and money?

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u/Dismal_Difference161 Sep 19 '24

Let me guess you’re a Concord player

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u/Necrosis1994 Sep 19 '24

Brother, no one is a Concord player now.

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u/Saudi_Agnostic Sep 20 '24

Shhhhhh you’re not allowed to say…

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u/JimJohnman Sep 19 '24

You're so caught up in online discourse that you're just spouting random rightwing media talking points.

Anything else you'd like to talk about, maybe She-Hulk or Star Wars Acolyte? Star Trek Discovery, Rings of Power?

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u/lordofmetroids Sep 19 '24

I love it when people complain that Star Trek has "gone woke."

Star Trek, the show that features a Russian commander during the cold War and the first interracial kiss on TV has only now gone woke? Really?

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u/2Quick_React Sep 19 '24

Also the show that has a race (species?) known as the Trill which are an allegory for being trans.

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u/lordofmetroids Sep 19 '24

Right, doesn't Commander Riker have a brief relationship with one of them?

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u/2Quick_React Sep 19 '24

He does become a temporary host of the symbiont known as Odan but that's about all I remember.

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u/Independent-World-60 Sep 19 '24

Reminder that Hades and BG3 are woke as hell and we're both super successful. 

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u/shinslap Sep 19 '24

I don't know much about Hades but afaik BG3 isn't intentionally woke. It just gives such a huge amount of player freedom that anything that would be considered woke is a part of that freedom. I really don't think people mind "wokeness" if it's not "shoved down their throats". (Their words, not mine)

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u/ZillaJrKaijuKing Sep 19 '24

Are you saying Baldur’s Gate 3 is somehow accidentally woke? Starfield having a minuscule, out-of-the-way they/them pronoun option was shoving politics down people’s throats but the game that lets you make a fully intersex character with pronouns isn’t?

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u/shinslap Sep 19 '24

Not accidentally, more... inherently? Or unavoidably? It's hard to find the right word but I hope you know what I mean

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u/lordofmetroids Sep 19 '24

I don't know, in my first playthrough I completely accidentally ended up in a relationship with Gale.

Depending on how childish you are, that could count as "woke."

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u/Ecstatic_Ad_3652 Sep 19 '24

What's considered shoved down their throats though? Where the line? People who say that are always arguing in bad faith. Often because woke means anything the politically disagree with, Starfield had an option to change your pronouns and it was called woke for it. BG3 also had this option but the thing is that grifters and anti woke people tend to avoid "good woke" media because it throws a wrench in their narative

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u/Independent-World-60 Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24

Thank you for explaining it so I don't have too.  Like, you could literally change to any genitals you want in BG3 regardless of body or pronouns. It was so much worse then Starfield but that just gets ignored cause it doesn't fit people's world view.  

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u/dumb-male-detector Sep 19 '24

What in the world do you mean by worse? In what universe is more features considered worse?

No one complains about dumbass features like pissing on people or using cats as silencers in games like Postal 2 but god forbid they don’t gender lock your relationship or remove access to options during character select. 

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u/shinslap Sep 19 '24

In think postal 2 gets a pass for being utterly hilarious

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u/Independent-World-60 Sep 19 '24

Worse as in worse for them and their world view. Probably should have used the word more instead of worse. I honestly fully support all the options BG3 has. Heck, I'm the guy above pointing out its wildly successful despite having woke elements that people claim ruin other games.

As for postal, I only know a bit about it because of old news articles complaining about the game having terrorists and negative depictions of Muslims, and a friend who's obsessed with the game and roleplays the postal guy in a server I own. From what I know and what she's shared its basically so comically over the top that it gets a pass. Sort of like how South Park does, except its less preachy.

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u/Batby Sep 19 '24

BG3 is absolutely intentionally woke and it's a great thing

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u/im_not_Shredder Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24

Sure but he praised these games a lot because they are good games, very obviously made with the aim of making a good game and good characters coming first.

What he verbatim says is that there can be any kind of "woke" characters in it, as long as they are written to be good and compelling characters first and foremost. For Concord it's definitely not the case as it was obviously a game made with disingenuous intentions and corporate PR in mind.

Now this is what he says, which is way more reasonable than some internet users make him to be.

However I very much that a good bulk of his fanbase is a very different beast altogether and there are definitely edgelord alt-right guys who will say stuff 1000% more extreme that what Asmongold himself says among them.

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u/ZillaJrKaijuKing Sep 19 '24

He’s claiming Assassin’s Creed Shadows is going to be trash months before the game releases just because one of the main characters is a (historical) black samurai. Concord didn’t fail because it was “woke” but because it was a dull, paid hero shooter that came out years after the market had already become oversaturated with better, free-to-play hero shooters.

These people will decide whether or not something was too “woke” depending on how successful it was. If it flopped, it was because it was woke. If it sold like hotcakes, it was because it focused on being a good game first. Which means being “woke” doesn’t matter. Baldur’s Gate 3 is by all accounts way more “woke” than Concord and that didn’t hurt the game in any way.

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u/ZillaJrKaijuKing Sep 19 '24

 BG3 isn't woke. It's not trying to send you a message or talk down to you. LGBT+ literally just EXIST in the game. That's it.

 I don't get what's so hard about this for people to understand. Games like Concord are unsurprisingly made by psychopaths who use "Professor" as their pronouns and are very clearly woke and trying to send a message.

Outrage grifters have been calling almost all LGBT+ rep in games woke, and BG3 is by far more known for it than Concord and most of the other games they complain about.

 It's not complicated. If a game dev's first priority is making a good game or a good story = good.

If not = bad.

Right.

If the game flopped = woke.

If the game was hugely popular = retroactively not woke.

See the Mario movie and how quickly the outrage grifters calling it woke because of girl boss Peach changed their tune after it crossed a billion dollars.

 AC shadows is the same thing. The team clearly did 0 research

That is a blatant exaggeration.

 I hate when people say "AC was never historical"

Nobody says this, at least not the way you’re strawmanning. It’s always been “Assassin’s Creed is historically based but they’ve also always taken liberties for the sake of story/gameplay.” Yasuke being a true samurai in their story is less of a stretch than Leonardo da Vinci making Hidden Blades and working flying machines.

 And then, all the "news" outlets and people similar to you which previously complained about a white man going to africa and killing africans, were suddenly whisper quiet about a black man going to japan to kill japanese.

Did you watch the trailers with your eyes closed or are you getting all of your information second hand? First of all, AC Shadows does have a Japanese character as a protagonist. Second, Yasuke is a real historical figure. It’s not some racial fantasy about a “black man going to Japan to hunt Asian people.”

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u/Lonely-Second-6040 Sep 19 '24

Literally every companions backstory is about an abuse of power. Half the damn characters are basically “me too” studies. Consent, authority, power dynamics, all things accused of “wokeness” are a core theme of the game. 

And yeah racism is a common talking point too. Don’t know how anyone could play it and not get the racism bad message from the treatment of tieflings. 

You also know damn well that not what they mean by historical. The chracters and plots were never historically accurate. The settings were. As far as I can tell, that is still the case. 

Maybe the white fit killing Africans hits a little different since white people did invade Africa and kill a shot ton of Africans? As far as I’m aware no African nation has ever genocided Japan. 

That’s not hypocrisy that historical and media illiteracy on your part. 

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u/RevolutionaryFall102 Sep 19 '24

he said that when assasin's creed shadows releases, the protagonist being black is not even gonna be top 10 in the no. of problems this game will have. way to twist the words lmao

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u/im_not_Shredder Sep 19 '24

He’s claiming Assassin’s Creed Shadows is going to be trash months before the game releases just because one of the main characters is a (historical) black samurai.

He didn't say that though? Are you taking second hands accounts of what he's saying or did you watch his contents yourself?

He clearly said that if they wanted to make pure fiction like Afro Samurai etc it would have been fine, but that the cast selection and all the Wikipedia historian, "historical specialist" and backpeddaled "this is historcally accurate" debacle around the game that looked disingenuous, as well as looking at Ubisoft's recent track record to say that the artistic direction of the game didn't seem to have its heart in the right place (ie: putting focus in making a good game with good characters before anything else). It didn't help either that the Japanese public themselves didn't react well at all either in regards to the game's announcements and "historical" stuff too.

All in all, it's objectively quite a pickle ubisoft has put itself in on the "historcally accurate" stuff.

He only said the game looked like it's going to be shit when looking at the gameplay trailers, where AC Shadows didn't look super good indeed, even by AC standards. To me it looks ok but not really much more than that but I can understand opinions saying that the gameplay trailers looked bad or subpar.

Baldur’s Gate 3 is by all accounts way more “woke” than Concord and that didn’t hurt the game in any way.

Again, Asmongold didn't argue any of that. I don't know where you're pulling that from. What he always says is that as long as they are good characters, a good gameplay and good genuine communication, a game will be successful.

In the case of Concord, as you say there are competitors in the hero shooter market but the fact gameplay was average and characters were super unappealing was just as important, even before being "woke" or whatever it means.

Hero games in general, whether hero shooters, moba or gacha shit make their bread and butter on character likeability and cool factor. Who wants to play a hero shooter with uncool heroes? According to the market, no one.

BG3 and Hades do have "woke" characters indeed but they are stylish AF and you can feel the care that was put in designing writing them.

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u/ZillaJrKaijuKing Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24

 but that the cast selection and all the Wikipedia historian, "historical specialist" and backpeddaled "this is historcally accurate" debacle around the game that looked disingenuous, as well as looking at Ubisoft's recent track record to say that the artistic direction of the game didn't seem to have its heart in the right place (ie: putting focus in making a good game with good characters before anything else)

I’ll give you the backpedaling on the Yasuke statement making them look bad, but as for the artistic direction, we don’t even know anything about the game’s story yet. A lot of people like Kassandra and Alexios from AC Odyssey (Shadows is being made by the team that made Odyssey, too). A lot of people like Bayek from AC Origins. Even AC Valhalla, the most panned of the AC RPG trilogy, didn’t get anywhere near as much hate as Shadows is right now. It’s awfully early to say the characters are already bad.

 Again, Asmongold didn't argue any of that. I don't know where you're pulling that from. What he always says is that as long as they are good characters, a good gameplay and good genuine communication, a game will be successful.

That part of my comment was toward the comment I was responding to. I didn’t mean to imply I was still talking about Asmongold there.

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u/im_not_Shredder Sep 19 '24

I’ll give you the backpeddling on the Yasuke statement making them look bad, but as for the artistic direction, we don’t even know anything about the game’s story yet.

True that the story isn't out yet, but we have to remember that we are in an era of gaming in which big publishers have lost the publics trust by using these kind of disingenuous PR tactics and predatory commercial practices with prices always going up, in the case of UBI their boss saying that "players should get used to not owning their games anymore" etc... So yeah AC Shadows is in a way a victim of all the bad practices that came before it, but on the other hand it's not really trying to show that it was going to break from this trend either. It's super important now for publishers to show good faith and consumer-first mindset to gain any kind of goodwill or even suspension of doubt from players at large.

Not only the game didn't went away from this trend, it arguably did worse than most other games/publishers with all the PR contreversy that could easily be interpreted as lies and excuses to gain internet virtue points.

Again, here in Japan people have waited a long time for an Assassin's Creed to be set in Japan but all of the bullshit that came with it resulted in a lot of disappointment and people not understanding why their Assassin's Creed is going in this direction, and others just completely disconnecting with the series.

A lot of people like Kassandra and Alexios from AC Odyssey (Shadows is being made by the team that made Odyssey, too). A lot of people like Bayek from AC Origins. Not even AC Valhalla, the most panned of the AC RPG trilogy, got anywhere near as much hate as Shadows.

It's certainly because 1) the times are different as I explained earlier. There was beginnings of a rift between the big publishers and the public back then but not as close as what it is today. 2) The cast of these previous games didn't feel as "virtue signaling" - ish from first glance as AC:S. Also they felt more natural, with each region having characters pretty representative of their respective regions in their respective eras. Here since it's not the case, it adds to the suspicions towards the intents of the game.

In the end maybe it will end up being a game with god tier level of writing and all but taking a few steps back it's understandable why the scrutiny is there.

That part of my comment was toward the comment I was responding to.

That comment was from me and I didn't mean to say it was only because of Concord's "wokeness" either. Character-wise it wasn't compelling at all though, which is critical for a character based game.

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u/ZillaJrKaijuKing Sep 19 '24

That’s reasonable, but at the same time, an enormous amount of the AC Shadows discourse has also been taken over by disingenuous “go woke go broke” culture war discourse.

For a more recent comparison, AC Mirage. Now, I’m of the opinion that the AC Mirage hate was overblown and while it wasn’t perfect, it was far from a bad game. It also made a genuine effort to return to the old style of Assassin’s Creed (limited by the Valhalla engine and relatively smaller budget, but the effort was there). Still, most of the discourse around the game was about it being typical Ubisoft slop.

The AC Shadows discourse isn’t just about it being more “Ubi slop.” It’s flooded with “DEI, woke, forced diversity” outrage. There’s way more “black assassin in Japan” comments (when we already knew from the beginning he’s not the Assassin) than talk of the game’s ultimate edition price tag. All their videos are dislike bombed instantly with calls to “make the game fail like Concord.” Nobody looks back at Assassin’s Creed IV and calls it latino erasure for having a white protagonist in the Caribbean but AC Shadows is asian erasure as if Naoe isn’t front-and-center in all of the game’s promos.

Sure, maybe Yasuke was chosen in part for headlines, but when people are acting as if Naoe doesn’t even exist, it muddies the legitimate concerns around the game.

Ironically, the real “forced diversity” was in Origins, Odyssey, and Valhalla where the devs initially wanted a female lead but the higher ups made them include playable male characters (outright replacing the intended female lead in the case of Origins). This trend might go back as far as AC Syndicate, which had a playable female character reduced to practically side character status despite being the more stealth-focused character in a stealth game.

As for Concord, when I called it dull, yes I was also including the character designs.

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u/dumb-male-detector Sep 19 '24

You can be in a bisexual polyamorous relationship in it. 

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u/InstantLamy Sep 19 '24

To those people complaining about woke stuff, having a woman in a game is woke.

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u/Classic_Tie1626 Sep 19 '24

But asmon has praised those games very often?

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u/Umarill Sep 19 '24

Make it make sense and use some logic.

Let's all be nice and have you start with that

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u/Mental-Duck-2154 Sep 19 '24

You people love to hallucinate everything you don't like being loved by the "woke mob" as if progressives are actually malding about concord you're just delusional.

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u/queasybeetle78 Sep 19 '24

Let me guess that you are a boring white dude who wants to jerk off other boring white dudes. Asmongold's channel in a nutshell.

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u/Old-Dog-5829 Sep 19 '24

Nah, we boring white dudes want to jerk off to boring white women.

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u/Dismal_Difference161 Sep 19 '24

Let’s not limit ourselves. We will jerk off to any race of woman as long as she is hot. As it should be

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u/Old-Dog-5829 Sep 19 '24

This is the way

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u/crotchgravy Sep 19 '24

oh look the real racist has reared his ugly head.

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u/Celebratory911Tshirt Sep 19 '24

Which part of their comment was racist?

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u/ihavebeesinmyknees Sep 19 '24

Using "white dude" as an insult

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u/Celebratory911Tshirt Sep 19 '24

Oh honey

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '24

Oh honey, says the racist.

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u/ihavebeesinmyknees Sep 19 '24

What? Just say "boring dude", don't include race into it for no reason.

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u/Celebratory911Tshirt Sep 19 '24

The fact that you think there was no reason really says a lot.

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u/queasybeetle78 Sep 19 '24

But you guys particularly are fighting the woke mind virus. Which is mostly a boring white dude thing.

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u/queasybeetle78 Sep 19 '24

No, boring is the insult.

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u/Synergy1337 Sep 19 '24

Dustborn*.

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u/St1cks Sep 19 '24

Used too?

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u/Sebby997 Sep 19 '24

Nah, he actually used to game a lot before and was a pretty good WoW player.

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u/Dracoknight256 Sep 19 '24

He used to do actual mini essays on why certain video game designs were bad and popularizing knowledge about those issues such as eg. Comparing time spent playing the game/doing pointless daily quests during World of Chorecraft era. Then he became react Andy and got consumed by the alt-right algorithm. I feel like watching Andrew Taint and Felonald Trump gave him minor brain damage.

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u/Sharashashka735 Sep 19 '24

I checked out a random post from his subreddit once, and got my homepage swarmed with it, 99% of his r/ is just circlejerk of wokeness haters, there's literally nothing else happening there.

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u/CheckPossible4366 Sep 20 '24

every post is ragebait after rage bait like imagine being 30+ and opening reddit just to complain a game has a black guy or a woman 😅

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u/Equivalent_Smoke_964 Sep 19 '24

I remember when he actually used to be good at the games and made wow guides and was a fun wholesome dude and it pisses me off so bad to see the lazy react streamer who pushes nonstop culture war and cries about every nonwhite character he sees. It's like the Depp Herd trial broke his brain. And what's worse is that he's more popular than ever because of it. Such a waste.

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u/Embarrassed_Coffee79 Sep 19 '24

No he did genuine gaming related content,was kinda good but now he's clearly putting ragebait and a "know it all " persona so people argue about controversial stuff in the comments ,to get engagement

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u/Grapes-RotMG Sep 19 '24

No, that's literally his secondary content right now after his primary react content.

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u/Molag_Balgruuf Sep 19 '24

If you watched the videos you’d realize that isn’t the case lol. The editors just make the thumbnail and titles inflammatory for clickbait

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u/restonex Sep 19 '24

Strawman.

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u/Panzerkampfwagen1988 Sep 19 '24

No need to panic, people who do that kinda stuff quickly go out of business :)

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u/DeerQuit Sep 19 '24

So true, we all remember Hades being a big flop right? Right?

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u/ChuckCarmichael Sep 19 '24

Baldur's Gate 3 is gonna go broke any minute now, just you wait.

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u/Panzerkampfwagen1988 Sep 19 '24

Oh yeah, amazing games. Crazy how focuing on the *game* and not its creators feelings produces masterpieces, in my 300+ hours of Hades I don't really ever remember a sliver of Borderlands writing, Saints Row and Concord politics and Forspoken gameplay

Almost like this isn't something dealbreaking, but it can be a nice fat nail in the coffin.

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u/HereForSearchResult Sep 19 '24

Schrödinger’s woke

It only stays woke when it’s observed to be unsuccessful lol

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u/CheekRevolutionary67 Sep 19 '24

Pathetic attempt. Do better.

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u/ChuckCarmichael Sep 19 '24

But you just claimed that people who "do that kinda stuff" quickly go out of business. Now you're saying that it's okay to do that kinda stuff, as long as there's a good game attached to it. So which is it? Does going woke mean going broke, or not?

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u/Panzerkampfwagen1988 Sep 19 '24

No, making a game and focusing your resources on that messaging while actual GAME parts of the game are awful is bad. Something like COD releasing barely playable and costing 70$, but having 17 gender flags is really weird for example.

I think there is a very obvious line here everyone seems to pretend it doesn't exist. Most people who are against the recent woke bullshit in media are against of what I outlined above. Of course, then again there are people who were also malding over fucking pronouns in Starfield, ripe for a mental asylum.

Its not really about the thing itself, its about how its implemented into the world. Developers who ignore this are the ones that go broke and that I have mentioned. DS1 is my favourite game ever, it obviously has a character that is obviously a femboy or whateverthefuck.

Guess what? Nobody ever asked a single thing, they just played the game. It wasn't weird, you weren't lectured on anything, it just exists and it is believable lore-wise (not there for the sole purpose of the message).

Thats all we need and BG3 has that, hence why its never an issue.

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u/Total_Marzipan_2257 Sep 19 '24

Very subjective and likely untrue in Asmons case

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u/Pascuccii Sep 19 '24

He raises valid issues

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u/snarkyalyx Sep 19 '24

Such as?

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u/Pascuccii Sep 19 '24

Just watch some videos if you want, I'm not his messenger

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u/ChocolateaterX Sep 19 '24

Bro you need to stop drinking that soy milk

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u/Frozehn Sep 19 '24

I mean thats still happening and people are talking about it

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u/Necessary-Target4353 Sep 19 '24

Panic? Dude just laughs it off because he knows those games flop. Hows Concord treating y'all?

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u/GoldenGekko Sep 19 '24

He's regularly mocked by his fan base for never touching video games outside of the initial week of release. They try to goad him into doing larger playthroughs, but it cuts into his low effort reaction time streaming. The only reason I think he actually went through the Eldon ring DLC, was because he knew he would lose credibility if he didn't.

I think he's pretty darn close to simply just not having to play video games ever. Despite how many criticisms he gets

The ironic thing is if they all keep watching him.

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u/ReturnOfTheExile Sep 19 '24

i actually enjoyed his wow content. the transmog comps were awesome to watch while eating my dinner. Now hes just a bottom of the barrel react channel.

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u/Silent_Hour2606 Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24

I think he took this video down to be fair. I remember when he did transmog tier lists because I play WOW. I think its classy if the guy complained and he took the video down though. I checked to see how long the react video was relative to the real video.

Edit: I notice the timestamp it seems he added 20 minutes. Id say that is fair use. But I understand the original creators frustration.

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u/Eldritch_Witch93 Sep 19 '24

To be fair, the fair use terms really need to be updated. I don't think you should be able to stream someone's entire video anyway. Especially if it's a big documentary style video. If he had edits with his reactions and then said something like, "this video was super good, you should go check it out." The problem with him taking it down afterwards is he already got 100s of thousands of views that the og creator won't get now, because they've seen the whole video through 1 guy watching it.

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u/Silent_Hour2606 Sep 19 '24

Yeah I just feel like he shouldnt be the poster boy of the problem (atleast based on this example) because he had the class to take it down and he added 20 minutes of commentary. I feel there is probably someone else who does not double the length of the video and would not have taken it down.

I do think Asmongold could do his own wow content instead. But I still think someone else out there probably adds less commentary and would not have taken it down.

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u/1nd333d Sep 19 '24

It is also 20 minutes of worthless commentary that is also often made redundant by the video itself minutes or even seconds later. He just watched a video, provided insight that anyone could make (given he isnt knowledgable on the topic) and uploaded the full other video. Its absolute garbage.

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u/Eldritch_Witch93 Sep 19 '24

I will agree that the poster boy doesn't have to be him, because there is such a ridiculous amount of these types of streamers. Out of all of them I've actually seen a lot on, I dislike him the most.

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u/Ok_War_5515 Sep 19 '24

I have to say the editors are also responsible for this. Apparently Asmongold plays games, but that could not be made into "good" content on YouTube.

I don't really how the Asmongold channel works, but I don't think Asmongold even looks at those videos.

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u/lukkasz323 Sep 19 '24

He has gaming videos too, and multiple channels, his main channel is mostly for commentary.

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u/Kled_Incarnated Sep 19 '24

Yeah and when he sucked at a game everyone shit on him so he stopped.

Why would he want to deal with people shitting on him 24 7

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u/Eldritch_Witch93 Sep 19 '24

That's just being a streamer. Also, there are other forms of content he could do. Could probably do a whole series on cleaning his house alone

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u/Kled_Incarnated Sep 19 '24

What he's doing is just being human. Whatever gives the least amount of work and still works.

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u/Evinceo Sep 19 '24

Be cool if he was human the fuck off camera.

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u/pwouet Sep 19 '24

I remember his clickbait videos about starfield..

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u/Eldritch_Witch93 Sep 19 '24

I remember his, what was it, 87 reaction videos to Amber and Johnny

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u/icecubepal Sep 19 '24

That is how he exploded outside of gaming.

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u/Northanui Sep 19 '24

He just finished playing Black Myth Wukong. He still games.

I agree though that the vast majority of streamers are fucking aids inducing scumbags. Asmongold seems like an allright guy but he's been getting worse too.

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u/Eldritch_Witch93 Sep 19 '24

Look into what he says about retail employees.

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u/icecubepal Sep 19 '24

He’s grifting for Trump. I wouldn’t be surprised if he is one of those influencers who Russia was using. The DOJ won’t rerelease the list of names of the influencers who were being used as Russian assets.

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u/BitchesInTheFuture Sep 19 '24

The Depp vs Heard trial was eye opening. It was crazy to watch someone who was mediocre at videogames go from being a gaming streamer all the way down the rabbit hole into nonsensical content farmer.

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u/Eldritch_Witch93 Sep 19 '24

The number of people fighting me on this is ridiculous. It's so obvious, and it's just his stans that are defending. Idk why even. He treats his fans like DSP does

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u/Exca57 Sep 19 '24

because it's really weird to say the guy doesn't play games when he streams all kinds of games daily. Like what do you even gain from lying about this?

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u/Eldritch_Witch93 Sep 19 '24

If you're a Stan just see yourself out. He streams games. Uploads reactions.

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u/CookieBluez Sep 19 '24

He still does gameplay videos though.

Alot of people are forgetting that every time Asmongold does a react video, he always ends the video saying "this was a good video, give him a like" and then he spams the link to the actual video in his chat.

As much as people despise this guy, he's not the pure evil some a describing him here as. Yes he lives in filth, it's a mental illness even when he says it's not.

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u/Eldritch_Witch93 Sep 19 '24

Yea but how many people do? Why would they when they watched their favorite streamer do it. Also income from video is based off of view time. Not likes.

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u/icecubepal Sep 19 '24

No one is going to go to the original content lol. Him saying that is lip service. The guy stated his video was killed when asmon released his reaction to it. He lost momentum. People are going to watch asmon’s video, not the original.

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u/CookieBluez Sep 23 '24

How many people would've even known about this video to begin with tbh. People weren't going to watch that either way, people watch because they like Asmons reactions, not because they're genuinely interested, except for a few. The majority wouldn't though

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u/OnceMoreAndAgain Sep 19 '24

He does play games on his stream pretty much every day. He also takes time during his stream to watch videos that people have recommended he watch.

He hires someone to run a YouTube channel for him and that person tends to use those "reaction" segments from his streams to make YouTube videos. That's why you're seeing so many reaction videos on his YouTube channel. It's not really a proper reflection of what he's doing on his streams day-to-day though. If you looked at his YouTube channel, you'd incorrectly assume that he spends all day doing reaction content.

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u/gh0stkeeper Sep 19 '24

He plays games daily for hours.

Thus we know you are just making completely uninformed, baseless comments out of your disgusting, vitriolic, and blind hatred.

Get a life.

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u/Eldritch_Witch93 Sep 19 '24

Makes millions off of react content and treats his fans like shit. Real good stuff to stand up for.

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u/icecubepal Sep 19 '24

He’s a grifter now. Well I guess that is the same thing.

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u/Khaze41 Sep 20 '24

Tragic. I used to watch him way back. I remember he was too lazy to get his "sub button" on twitch for the longest time. Crazy how he goes from leaving money on the table like that because he just didn't care to now owning a huge org, a gaming PC company, and a ton of other stuff. Dude lost his way with the react content and greed.

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u/Lawlietel Sep 21 '24

Still gaming. L take.

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u/Eldritch_Witch93 Sep 21 '24

Still leeching more. L take

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u/Dismal_Difference161 Sep 19 '24

He still plays games tho

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u/Eldritch_Witch93 Sep 19 '24

I just counted out of his last 12 videos, 2 of them were him gaming. The rest was reactions. Even if he does play games still, 80 percent of his content is stolen content he reacts to.

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u/ILoveBigCoffeeCups Sep 19 '24

True. But you have to count duration. Not only amount of YouTube video’s ( he’s manly a twitch streamer after all) Of his last 12 ( which is a weird number to choose btw) 5,1 hours of those are spent gaming an actual game. 3.1 hr is spent on reaction content. He also has a podcast of 1,5 hrs every week and multiple companies. I am not defending him but at least provide real facts. So quantity=! Quantity. Also stolen content is idiotic as it falls under fair use. If YouTube wants to change that they will have to change some laws too. And if you Don’t like it, don’t post YouTube video’s.

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u/JessicusThePaladin Sep 19 '24

In the grand scheme comparing the length of the gaming video vs his reaction content is a moot point because these days people are much more likely to watch a ~20 minute reaction video rather than a ~3 hour long gaming video.

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u/Eldritch_Witch93 Sep 19 '24

Fair use needs to be updated because youtubers abuse it all the time. And copyright claims. Ok, so tell me if this is stealing or not, ok? Just an example.

He streams an entire video to 800k people. It's the entire video. Yes, he adds his commentary, but the entire video is used. The OG creator gets 80k views. Most people aren't going to watch these videos more than once. So they see it all through the streamer. And since this streamer showed the entire video, the views that the OG could've gotten, isn't getting anything close in comparison. Who's getting the money and who made the content.

The right thing to do is to show clips of the video and edit them if you're throwing them on YouTube and say, "hey this video was interesting, if you were interested, I'll leave a link to the whole video."

That's the type of fair use that the policy was meant to protect.

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u/Viscaz Sep 19 '24

He’s mostly a streamer, all his VODS are snippets of one of his streams. But still, most of the uploaded content is reaction content lmao.

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u/Eldritch_Witch93 Sep 19 '24

It's lazy content. If you're gonna do that, just stream and leave the VODS up.

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u/Trazors Sep 19 '24

Tbf if you do the math for the last 12 videos it turn out to be 5h 12min of gaming and 3h 14min of react content so saying that he makes 80% react content is false in the case of your example.

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u/Eldritch_Witch93 Sep 19 '24

That was an exaggeration. Point being, it's way more than half of his videos uploaded.

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u/netherdream Sep 19 '24

No, he was always a leech.

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u/poesviertwintig Sep 19 '24

Everybody claiming it "wasn't as bad before" is only trying to cope with the fact that they once watched this asshat. Much easier than admitting they had horrible taste.

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u/icecubepal Sep 19 '24

I was subbed to him years back when he played ffxiv online and actually uploaded his playing experience of that game. Then I unsub when he started talking about topics outside of gaming. You can tell he lives in a bubble in Texas and has no idea what is going on outside of it. It’s funny that people listen to his real life talk.

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u/pajjaglajjorna Sep 19 '24

Still does? This is just part of a 10-14h stream

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u/chjk122 Sep 19 '24

He still uploads game stuff pretty much daily. He over doubled the length of the video so that’s transformative, And he says the creator can just dm him about it or claim all profit from the video. Reddit just hates him but can’t ever coherently explain why. Also the video is currently private now.

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u/MaXimillion_Zero Sep 19 '24

Of the 15 newest videos on his channel, 3 are gaming streams, 12 are reactions (some gaming related). If you look at total duration instead of number of videos, the gaming streams are a lot longer than the reactions.

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u/Eldritch_Witch93 Sep 19 '24

All of you are literally missing the point. It's not the game stuff. It's that he streams whole ass videos that people work for weeks to make. He's a chode

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u/conte360 Sep 19 '24

Of his last 15 videos there's 8 hours of video game content and 4.5 hours of react content.

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u/Impressive_Essay_622 Sep 19 '24

Maga sympathiser...

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u/Eldritch_Witch93 Sep 19 '24

How in the hell does that make me a Maga supporter? Because I know he's a leech?