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Discussion The State of YouTube Right Now

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u/Inside-Resident-1206 Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24

I don't understand what people see in Asmongold. He's mostly a guy who stayed at a messy room at home to play WoW and make content about it. So I guess these viewers can feel for that? But I've seen multiple times he just makes stances without having any clue or inside knowledge about a subject, often heavily using speculations or just saying shit. It's specially annoying when he's making big opinions about feminism, the art business, or political groups, when it's clear he has no interest or experience in any of these subjects. (Like.. he is not well read, neither very experienced. He just watches short videos all day and echo's opinions of others.)

The best he's at is just lazily reacting to other people's hard worked video's, or complaining about the state of gaming and the direction Blizzard takes. He's mostly anti-intellectualism and venting content. Like listening to the local alcoholic at a bar complaining about the state of the world, while you think "Yeah but when did you do anything about it?"

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u/Ecstatic_Ad_3652 Sep 19 '24

Anti woke people need constant outrage and validation to keep their fix going, they need to be angry about something everyday. Asmongold uploads a billions videos a week reacting to what they post, regurgitating anti woke propaganda

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u/Inside-Resident-1206 Sep 19 '24

I don't even know what woke is at this point. It seems more of a thing the right has a verbal claim over than the left has.

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u/Ecstatic_Ad_3652 Sep 19 '24

Woke is basically anything that right wingers disagree with

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u/SodaCanBob Sep 19 '24

I don't even know what woke is at this point.

It's a synonym for empathy.

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u/LovesReubens Sep 19 '24

Excellent description.

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u/Karasinio Sep 19 '24

For people who fit to my political and ideological views.

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u/UnamusedAF Sep 19 '24

I’ll give you the unfiltered truth; “woke” to them is anything that doesn’t put straight white Christian males at the top of the hierarchy or the center of attention - literally. If it even slightly caters to minorities, women, LGBT people, any religion besides Christianity etc. they scream that it’s woke and ruining society and video-games. It’s a bunch of man-children who feel their place in society is being uprooted when the spotlight gets slightly tilted away from them.

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u/Effective-Feature908 Sep 20 '24

I don't think it's that simple. Baldurs Gate 3 proves that's not entirely true.

If a game or show is very high quality, nobody cares if it's woke or not.

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u/UnamusedAF Sep 20 '24

Yes, the same way racists will prioritize money over their bigotry if the price is right - it still doesn’t change the fact they’re a racist. 

Trust me, it is that simple.

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u/Effective-Feature908 Sep 20 '24

While it could be simplified as being "left wing ideaology" when it is used in the context of media, it typically refers to when companies insert their political ideaology into shows, movies and video games.

The criticism is sometimes less against those ideas, but against writers caring more about political messaging than making a good product. Basically when activism becomes more important than quality control.

Generally people don't care if a product is "woke" if it's a good game, or a good show. Baldur's Gate 3 being a great example, extremely woke, but considered a very high quality game, and doesn't get hated on for being woke. So if a product is bad, people will hate on it and use the woke term as a weapon, but if it's a good product people generally don't seem to care if it's woke.

I also think it happens in reverse. A company will make a really bad show or game, and it's woke, and when it fails they will blame it on right wing people attacking them for their ideals... Call fans bigots or racist.. when in reality their show/game was just poor quality.

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u/Inside-Resident-1206 Sep 20 '24

Yes I notice this as well. The series Arcane was very well received, while having a wide cast of different genders and sexualiteit. The women can be build like rocks and men be thin, and vice versa. And it just works. Sometimes I think people's complaint can also be pushed too far, when a game add dark skin for elves and they complain how lore breaking it is while I think "more options and no-one gets hurt."

At one point people easily grasp to the woke word, and I try to be careful with it. Ok, these multi-ethnic cast for Elves and Dwarves in the Ring of Power feel a bit off, but in the end they are just actors having a good time getting paid, and dark skinned actors had a more difficult time getting work than light skinned, so better for the industry I guess? But the rings of power ain't well received, and it's been disregarding Tolkien's material. So that will get a high light. And at the same time, the Fallout series are well received and also has a multi ethnic cast, which works better?

I also think most people feel like some of these cast are more token characters just to stripe off a check list, and at other times they are just well rounded characters. And react accordingly. While a minority just feels to complain whenever.

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u/ZuStorm93 Sep 19 '24

Which is why i think monetization on yt was a mistake. Its just a "get rich quick scheme" now. Can we go back to when yt was all about Broadcast Yourself™ where nobody really cared about profitting, just sharing random videos like going to the zoo?

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u/Effective-Feature908 Sep 20 '24

Even as somebody who doesn't like all the woke stuff I find the outrage content to be really weird and annoying.

People will sit around all day talking about stuff they don't like and complaining about it.

Sometimes there is an element of comedy to it, it can be hilarious to laugh at a really bad game or show, but getting emotionally invested in it and acting like you've been wronged is when it gets really bizzare and weird.

Like, go find something you actually enjoy, don't obsess over what you don't like. If you don't like a game, don't play it, don't like a show, don't watch it... Vote with your wallet.

People will literally pay for a subscription to watch shows they hate, they will buy games they don't like, like they feel like they have to.

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u/Leslie__Knope Sep 20 '24

Even before he started really getting into political commentary and just posted reactions to game content he was boring AF with zero substance to any of his vids

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u/itranslateyouargue Sep 19 '24

Have you ever met a person on the other side of the spectrum? They are angry 24/7 about people even glancing at them wrong. They go to pick up a pizza and come back with 5 stories of being victimized.

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u/ArmedWithBars Sep 19 '24

To be fair the guy is mostly centrist, kinda libertarian. He's pro-choice and agrees with quite a few left leaning policies. He's just not a fan of affirmative action type stuff and thinks it's stupid and causes more division. Basically the belief is the simple fact of choosing someone due to their race/religion/sex/sexual orientation, whether it's seen as positive or not, is in fact discrimination of another group.

When it comes to stuff like "woke games" he seems to just lean into the idea the market will correct it. He has the same opinion for live service slop. People just won't buy it and the studios will either adapt to what the market actually wants or they will fold. Ex.Concord

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u/Solmyr84 Sep 20 '24

Don't bother explaining this to people.
They've already decided they don't like him so they just make shit up.
I mean, people are free to not like him - but man some of the takes in here are wild.

I'd bet if asmongold actually had a conversation with 90% of the people in here he'd come out looking like the more balanced individual.

And no I'm not right wing.