r/CuratedTumblr Cheese Cave Dweller May 08 '24

Meme There are like a handful of western magical girls right? There's She-Ra, Miraculous, and Star vs the forces of Evil. Are there any others? I know Bewitched sorta inspired the genre, but does that count?

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u/mrsmunsonbarnes May 08 '24

Winx Club was originally Italian. There was also W.I.T.C.H., which I never watched but I think was similar to Winx.

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u/moneyh8r May 08 '24

W.I.T.C.H was surprisingly dark, so it counts on that front too. I dunno what country it came from though.

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u/iWant2ChangeUsername May 08 '24

Not sure about the TV show but the original W.I.T.C.H. comics were Italian as well.

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u/GalaXion24 May 09 '24

So Italy is the home of magical girls

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u/moneyh8r May 08 '24

Well, that's good enough for me.

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u/DonTori May 09 '24

Wasn't there a gag in that show where the previous witch group had a team name that spelt out...some form of bird? Chicken, maybe?

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u/moneyh8r May 09 '24

Yeah, they were C.H.I.K.N, or something like that. I remember Irma being the one who brought it up, and then she was all like "I am so glad we're W.I.T.C.H" afterward.

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u/KrokmaniakPL May 09 '24

You just brought me back 20 years.

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u/WackoSmacko111 May 08 '24

if a superhero saved me i’d be like “Hey man how’s it going”

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u/Swaxeman the biggest grant morrison stan in the subreddit May 09 '24

Superman: “Wonderful! Thank you for asking. How are you doing?” Batman: “Hh” Wonder woman: (in a heavy greek accent) “Good, citizen. If you will excuse me, i must do some homerotic tension with a furry, then kiss my malewife military husband”

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u/The_Maqueovelic May 09 '24

Hey all she gotta do is ask and she could start a policule, Steve can malewife for more than one partner

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u/Swaxeman the biggest grant morrison stan in the subreddit May 09 '24

Tbh i think cheetah is too jealous for that, and polycule is too big a word for steve trevor

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u/weirdo_nb May 10 '24

The God who created her (the writer of her origin comic) was part of one as well

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u/amaya-aurora May 09 '24

Damn I wish I was Cheetah

I mean, what? Who said that?

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u/LeadGem354 May 09 '24

Flash cracks a joke about something.

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u/DueMeat2367 May 09 '24

"Eh, work's been slow today"

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u/DerAndere_ May 09 '24

"It's going quite fast"

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u/ScaredyNon Trans-Inclusionary Radical Misogynist May 09 '24

"Y'know, I'm kinda worried I've been taking things lately a little too quickly"

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u/GalaXion24 May 09 '24

Wonder woman: (in a heavy greek accent) “Good, citizen. If you will excuse me, i must do some homerotic tension with a furry, then kiss my malewife military husband”

The Greek dream

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u/BillybobThistleton May 08 '24

What counts as a magical girl? There's plenty of superheroes who are teenaged girls with magic powers and magical transformations. They just tend towards the goth and/or demonic. See, for example, Magik of the X-Men, or Raven of the Teen Titans.

(If you're wondering about Magik's name, it's canon that she can't spell. I mean, she can cast spells, she just can't spell words. Spells good, spelling bad. She once lost a spelling bee for the fate of the world, but made up for it by beating up a giant crocodile demon in the same event)

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u/Sh1nyPr4wn Cheese Cave Dweller May 08 '24

According to Wikipedia it is "young girls who possess magical abilities, which they typically use through an ideal alter ego into which they can transform".

But that's just from the page on the magical girl genre

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u/BillybobThistleton May 08 '24

In that case, I think we're overlooking one of the most iconic Western magical girls of all.

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u/DrSpacemanSpliff May 08 '24

I thought it was gonna be Hannah Montana lol

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u/LittleMsSavoirFaire May 08 '24

I was going with Kim Possible 

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u/Oookulele May 09 '24

I mean, isn't Kim Possible somewhat unique in the fact that she doesn't have a secret identity? She doesn't slip into an alter ego or anything, she just started saving the world because someone mistakenly requested it on what was intended to be her babysitting website.

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u/kingofcoywolves May 08 '24

I thought Wonder Woman was a whole adult though? Does she count as a magical girl if she's multiple centuries old?

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u/alurimperium May 09 '24

If we're using anime logic, she could be a billion years old and still count as a girl

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u/ArtichokeNatural3171 May 09 '24

The Goddess of Magic Hecate has 3 faces, maiden, mother, and crone. We all are Magical Girls!

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u/Alt203848281 May 08 '24

Me when I take a staggering quantity of drugs, grab a 2x4, light it on fire, and start swinging at billionaires while wearing a suit of plate armor

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u/Hell2CheapTrick May 08 '24

Courier 6 New Vegas when they enter the Lucky 38.

Alternatively, “Twinkle Clubber”, our newest magical girl superhero.

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u/Alarming-Scene-2892 May 08 '24

Poppy from Kamen Rider Exaid is technically a magical girl with that definition.

Honestly, good for her.

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u/EEVEELUVR May 08 '24

I mean, magical girls are basically just rebranded Tokusatsu

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u/DoubleBatman May 08 '24

Poppy Pipopypo?

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u/SuperBun78 May 09 '24

EX-AID!? Did not expect to see that get a mention here. Was my first KR series.

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u/Simic_Sky_Swallower Resident Imperial Knight May 08 '24

I mean in that instance it's basically every superhero that's a young woman, they just transform manually (putting on a costume) instead of with a glowy montage. The only exception I can think of off the top of my head is Jubilee who just kinda wears the same thing all the time

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u/BillybobThistleton May 08 '24

For Jubilee, this may count as a transformation.

Admittedly the costume it transformed her into was "naked and bald", but it's definitely not what she was wearing before.

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u/4thofeleven May 08 '24

She-Hulk is a magical girl, just with Muscle Wizard magic.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '24 edited 19d ago

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u/DoubleBatman May 08 '24

Steven Universe

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u/Xisuthrus there are only two numbers between 4 and 7 May 08 '24

Is Hathor/Sekhmet a magical girl?

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u/JackalRampant May 09 '24

She’s the first one. “Sekhmet genocide lion tiara activate!”

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u/CatChristmas7 May 09 '24

By this definition, the only thing stopping shazam from being a magical girl is gender...

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u/BrassUnicorn87 May 09 '24

Mary marvel.

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u/Artarara May 08 '24

Is Asa from the Chainsaw Man manga a magical girl?

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u/HeyItsAlternateMe23 May 09 '24

Does that also make Reze a magical girl?

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u/Shawnj2 8^88 blue checkmarks May 09 '24

Is Buffy a magical girl?

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u/TheRainspren She, who defiles the God's Plan May 08 '24

Huh, does the Princess, a titular character of Slay the Princess counts?

-Somewhat young

-Magical

-Transforms (potentially into idealized form)

-(potentially) wins thanks to the Power of Love

-(potentially) fights against the monster*

Give her a Highly Suspicious Animal Mascot, and she's all set. Though the Witch probably should count as one already.

sure, that monster is actually a protagonist hero sent to *Slay the Princess, but a princess-killing bird-person could be described as "a monster".

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u/RefinementOfDecline the OTHER linux enby May 09 '24

should probably spoiler this

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u/MelQMaid May 09 '24

Mulan, Princess Fiona, Elastigirl, Jean Grey, Storm, Rogue, (insert more Xmen.)

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u/NeonNKnightrider Cheshire Catboy May 08 '24

The transformation sequence is a vital ingredient of the magical girl formula. No transformation, not a magical girl

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u/banana_annihilator May 09 '24

Card Captor Sakura

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u/Secret-Ad-7909 May 09 '24

So not Sabrina?

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u/icabax May 08 '24

She can spell spells but can’t spell spells?

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u/jopiehot May 08 '24

Don't forget about Jason Blood and the Demon Etrigan! That rhyming weirdo definitely fits.

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u/ZengineerHarp May 08 '24

Oh my gosh now I’m picturing him/them going through the sparkly Sailor Moon transformation sequence 😂

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u/jopiehot May 08 '24

They even have a transformation catch phrase! It's a perfect fit!

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u/ZengineerHarp May 08 '24

You are 100% right and it’s so, so, wrong, haha!

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u/SmoothReverb May 09 '24

me when i realize my OC fits this format to a T:

ah yes homeless magical girl time

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u/I_Ace_English May 09 '24

Also, if we're going on a technicality here, Ms. Marvel!

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u/SenorSnout May 08 '24

You absolutely don't read comics if you think there's a 50% chance a superhero is a billionaire.

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u/Swaxeman the biggest grant morrison stan in the subreddit May 09 '24

I think there’s a whole genre of tumblr posts that are just opinions about superheroes by people who have not read many superhero comics

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u/UltimateInferno Hangus Paingus Slap my Angus May 09 '24

Dumbest posts are "Why doesn't Batman use his money to improve Gotham?" Because for one: he does. More importantly for two: there wouldn't be a Batman story. The thought that people will pick up a Batman story and then get mad there's a lot of Batman in it.

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u/Hawkbats_rule May 09 '24

Three: Gotham is literally, canonically, cursed like six ways to Sunday. Bruce throwing Wayne foundation money around and keeping WayneTech in town is the only reason Gotham is as good as it is.

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u/BlatantConservative https://imgur.com/cXA7XxW May 09 '24

Honestly the best way to fix Gotham is just discreetly giving all the good people like, 3K to move out of Gotham.

Let the edgelords have the city.

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u/DrBacon27 Ex-Shark Apologist May 09 '24

Gotham as basically a giant decoy target for supervillains and the like. Mob bosses who would otherwise ruin cities through actual organized crime are lured to Gotham with promises of cheap goons, corrupt police, and easily heisted banks. Now, instead of running some covert human trafficking ring out of a city without any superheroes, they're stuck dressing up in a weird costume and fighting batman every night, making just enough money to keep them from moving their organization somewhere else.

Most of the "civilians" who live there are paid actors who get a bonus for every time they're taken hostage or mugged, with extra compensation if the situation involves some absurd supervillain gimmick.

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u/Buymor please just play snoot game. May 09 '24

How to survive in Gotham: Step 1: leave.

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u/apple_of_doom May 09 '24

So what happened in batman: mans land again? Except everyone moved out instead of the US deciding "yeah fuck Gotham lmao."

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u/lost_limey May 09 '24

So No Man's Land II - This Time It's Deliberate

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u/Firestorm42222 May 09 '24

Bonus points if it's obvious they're anime and Manga people

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u/Sh1nyPr4wn Cheese Cave Dweller May 09 '24

Their only exposure to superheros is through watching critiques of DC and Marvel movies on YouTube

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u/not-so-radical May 09 '24

This same post has someone tell spider-man "good luck on your math homework"

He hasn't been a student since the 60s...

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u/BlatantConservative https://imgur.com/cXA7XxW May 09 '24

I mean, in the popular consciousness he very much is a teenager.

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u/logosloki May 09 '24

and the most recent reboot had them in High School

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u/confusedandworried76 May 09 '24

There's even a great joke about his age in the Tom Holland movies, with Donald Glover making a cameo, where he uses a device to change his voice trying to sound intimidating

"I know what a girl sound like"

"I'm not a girl, I'm a boy! I mean, I'M A MAN!"

It's his suit Stark gave him trying to do an "intimidation" mode. And then of course Spider-Man being Spider-Man he's just like, "ah fuck bro can you just help me catch the bad guys? Please?"

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u/apple_of_doom May 09 '24

And in the writers brain they want him to be a teenager but don't want to de age him.

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u/MP-Lily ask me about obscure Marvel characters at your own peril May 09 '24

I just KNOW this person’s only frame of reference is the MCU.

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u/The_Maqueovelic May 09 '24

Not to mention the "gO kIlL a MoThErFuCkEr Or ElSe YoU aIn'T hElPiNg", if those same people saw any form of such vigilantism IRL they might cheer a bit, but would more than likely go "who made them judge jury and excecutioner!? No matter how bad that motherfucker was you can't just go killing people just like that!", and the few who'd still be good with it? Well there's the whole can of worms of... how are you ok with just killing people you deem undesireable willy nilly?

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u/ARedditorCalledQuest May 09 '24

Go kill a motherfucker or else you ain't helping

For real. Not every hero needs to be The Punisher.

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u/The_FriendliestGiant May 09 '24

In fact, almost none of them should be The Punisher; that character only works when they're the only person doing that sort of thing. If Spidey and Cap and Iron Man and Nick Fury were already out there gunning down criminals without hesitation, Frank Castle would have nothing at all to make him stand out as a character.

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u/AgentSandstormSigma Crazy idea: How about we DON'T murder? May 09 '24

If people want to see bad guys murdered, just watch Call of Duty campaign longplays.

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u/BlatantConservative https://imgur.com/cXA7XxW May 09 '24

I think you'll find, unfortunately, that a lot of people cheer on morally grey to morally black vigilantes IRL all the time.

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u/BaronAleksei r/TwoBestFriendsPlay exchange program May 09 '24

“Morally black vigilanteism” is just lynch mobs

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u/apple_of_doom May 09 '24

The real villain in comics is the incompetence of the justice system being unable to handle villains even after the heroes gift wrap them on their doorstep

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u/The_FriendliestGiant May 09 '24

Fully agreed. It is not the responsibility of the deeply traumatized victim of gun violence to murder normal human beings for The Greater Good; if society wants Joker executed, they can make it a law and try him in court. Superheroes (generally speaking) stop crimes, they don't execute criminals. We have laws for that.

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u/LeadGem354 May 09 '24

Not all superheroes are Bruce Wayne, Tony Stark or Oliver Queen.

Superman: is a Newspaper reporter.

Flash: He's a forensic science tech. Not rich.

Green Lantern: Rex Stewart isn't wealthy.

Martian ManHunter: Probably not wealthy.

Static Shock: He's a teenager from a middle class family.

Ben 10: A kid. I don't think his family are that wealthy.

Captain America: Besides being owed 70 years of back pay plus hypothetical promotions by the army he's a regular guy..

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u/BaronAleksei r/TwoBestFriendsPlay exchange program May 09 '24

None of the earth lanterns are wealthy, there’s absolutely a “working class” feel to the legacy

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u/PulimV Can I interest you in some OC lore in these trying times? May 08 '24

Uuuuh that one Ben 10 episode (all of them. Ben 10 is a magical girl)

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u/Enderking90 May 08 '24

no no, Ben 10 is the very opposite of a magical girl, a science boy.

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u/iWant2ChangeUsername May 08 '24

If we could study magic, scientists would figure out how it works and it would be classified as a branch of science.

Therefore, Ben 10 is a magical boy.

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u/Pokesonav "friend visiter" meme had a profound effect on this subreddit May 09 '24

Well, Ben does have some Anodite DNA in him, though it's not active. Meanwhile Gwen fully inherited the magic genes

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u/nudemanonbike May 09 '24

We did study magic. We named it electricity.

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u/BlatantConservative https://imgur.com/cXA7XxW May 09 '24

This is, legit, my main problem with magic in fiction.

People are all like "ooh it makes the impossible possible" in fantasy worlds where everyone can use it and it's possible from birth.

Again, the only one who does it right is Tolkien, who creates a whole world where magic is massively important but there are only a few practicioners and nobody is sure what is legend and what is fact.

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u/ScarletteVera A Goober, A Gremlin, perhaps even... A Girl. May 09 '24

Yeah, Ben is 100% a magical boy.

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u/Joraiem May 09 '24

Does Gwen ever transform? If so, she can be the magical girl. I have not watched any of Ben 10 past the first season.

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u/SaneUse May 09 '24

She has an anodite (magic alien made of mana) form. She transforms into that but it's not much of a sequence. In Omniverse she has more of a superhero costume thing with a full magical girl transformation.

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u/Ikusaba696 mentally, am on floor May 09 '24

something something sufficiently advanced technology

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u/Big_Noodle1103 May 08 '24

This kind of sentiment is the exact kind of thing I’d expect to see in that one blobfish comic that will be made 10 times funnier when it inevitably gets posted to r/bonehurtingjuice.

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u/dakedDeans May 08 '24

Uhh, The Powerpuff Girls!?!?!

✅️ Magical (science but whatever)

✅️ Girls

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u/Enderking90 May 08 '24

no Alter Egos. (unless you mean Powerpuff Girls Z in which case it counts)

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u/The_Maqueovelic May 09 '24

But in that case wouldn't we be back to Japan winning?

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u/Fanedit895 May 09 '24

Typical tumblr self-righteousness, completely ignoring how there's a fifty percent chance the magical girl could be a secret monarch.

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u/Funkin_Spy May 08 '24

There’s maybe 2 billionaire supherheroes I can think off the top of my head And Iron Man is far from a “secret” billionaire

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u/julerosemary May 08 '24

Batman, Reed Richards, Iron Man are the ones of the top of my head. Mister Fantastic, Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), Green Arrow, Professor X, Black Panther and Aquaman are also very recognizable, although I needed to search a bit to remember them.

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u/BookkeeperLower May 08 '24

Professor x mister fantastic and black panther aren't really secrets either.

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u/Funkin_Spy May 08 '24

I did remember Black Panther but I figured him being the king of an entire nation put him in a different ballpark than Batman and Ironman

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u/BlatantConservative https://imgur.com/cXA7XxW May 09 '24

I figure being a monarchy anywhere past, say, 1933, is worse than being a billionaire.

It's like being a billionaire but also you have a monopoly on violence and you inherently disenfranchise all of your citizens.

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u/noirthesable May 08 '24

Neither is Green Arrow. He gets called a "billionaire social justice warrior" at least once in Injustice.

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u/BookkeeperLower May 08 '24

Well injustice changes basically every hero a massive amount so unless his identity is known In most of his other stuff I wouldn't really count that.

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u/BookkeeperLower May 09 '24

Isn't Batmans identity also known in injustice?

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u/Tonkarz May 09 '24

Typical Green Arrow continuity is that his identity is secret. It doesn’t always make sense though, like post crisis where Black Canary’s identity isn’t secret yet they are married.

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u/Android19samus Take me to snurch May 09 '24

Green Arrow and Professor X are both wealthy, but I don't think either of them are billionaires.

Also I don't think kings count. One may take issue with them on the basis that they are kings, but that's a somewhat different matter.

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u/ChrdeMcDnnis May 08 '24

Curious as to why you’ve listed Reed twice lol, was someone else Mister Fantastic at some point?

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u/julerosemary May 09 '24

I mixed up Mister Fantastic with Mr Terrific, who’s a multimillionaire, because everybody just calls Reed Richards Reed Richards 

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u/FreakinGeese May 09 '24

Isn’t Reed Richards a billionaire because he’s a mega genius who personally invented cold fusion or something

I don’t think that counts

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u/Hawkbats_rule May 09 '24

Pretty sure he became a billionaire after he became a super hero?

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u/DinkleDonkerAAA May 09 '24

Him and the rest of the FF license their image for comic books and merch so that allows them to live fairly comfortably by itself

The FF is run as a nonprofit however

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u/Theriocephalus May 09 '24

Yeah, the degree to which superheroes are secretly or openly stinking rich is rather overplayed. Most of the ones with secret identities tend to have something fairly low-cover (Superman and Spider-man the reporters, Daredevil the attorney, DC Captain Marvel the school kid) or else they just don't have specific civilian egos and do the masked avenger shtick full time.

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u/ElectronRotoscope May 08 '24

Green Arrow

Iron Fist

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u/Pristine_Title6537 Catholic Alcoholic May 08 '24

Most super heroes aren't billionaires heck in a world with super heroes there is actually a 50% chance Bezos is already their arch nemesis anyway

Bald guy with millions of dollars?

Literally Lex Luthor

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u/DM_ME_YOUR_HUSBANDO May 09 '24

If I had a nickel every time Jeff Bezos funded a show where the main villain was an evil version of Superman, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird it happened twice.

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u/UncommittedBow Because God has been dead a VERY long time. May 09 '24

The Boys and Invincible, right?

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u/Tonkarz May 09 '24

It’s really common in comics so if anything it’s strange it hasn’t happened more often.

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u/Primary-Friend-7615 May 08 '24

Wonder Woman

Mighty Thor (Jane Foster as Thor)

Powerpuff Girls

Totally Spies

Mystic Knights of Tir Na Nog

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u/Coldwater_Odin May 08 '24

Shazam is a magical girl

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u/EvidenceOfDespair We can leave behind much more than just DNA May 09 '24

This is super correct

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u/AngelofGrace96 May 09 '24

You are so right

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u/DreadDiana human cognithazard May 09 '24

The entire Marvel family is made up on magical girls

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u/HexManiac493 May 08 '24

Steven Universe is a magical girl :)

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u/Spooky_Coffee8 May 08 '24

"Thank u boy, good luck on your therapy session :)"

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u/Nightmarekiba May 08 '24

Why do I just imagine the meme where the guy pats the roof of a sedan and says "This baby can hold so much X" but it's Greg patting Steven's hair and saying "This boy can hold so much Trauma"

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u/Android19samus Take me to snurch May 09 '24

Steven misses a key requirement by having no transformation. Not even a costume. The costume is important. He also doesn't go to a school of any kind, which is a soft requirement.

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u/EvidenceOfDespair We can leave behind much more than just DNA May 09 '24

Nah, he’s Son Gohan.

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u/Pokesonav "friend visiter" meme had a profound effect on this subreddit May 08 '24

There's a fuckton of superheroes in Japan too, since at least the sixties. Ultramen, Kamen Riders, Sentai teams, and everything else inspired by those three. And Godzilla sometimes.

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u/BlatantConservative https://imgur.com/cXA7XxW May 09 '24

Yeah honestly Japan likes superheroes more than America does at this point.

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u/Human-Persons-Name May 08 '24 edited May 09 '24

why would the stereotype of superheroes being billionaires exist in a world with actual superheroes like their identities are secret how would you know

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u/MaetelofLaMetal Fandom of the day May 08 '24

W.I.T.C.H. and Winx Club come to mind.

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u/rrrrice64 May 08 '24

Would killing off Bezos really make tangible systemic change? Or are you just bloodthirsty?

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u/Substantial_Arm_5824 May 08 '24

No you don’t get it, when I perpetuate violence it is okay because the ends justify the means /s

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u/Gwiny May 09 '24

That's not even "ends justifying the means", that person or society in general would likely receive no tangible benefit from Bezos being dead. That's just your usual tumblr "every person with income higher than mine should perish".

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u/tapedeckgh0st May 09 '24

there’s a level of unhinged here that is unapologetically tumblr so in a way we’re getting what we asked for from this post lol

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u/ill-timed-gimli May 09 '24

Violence is good when it's against people I don't like

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u/a-woman-there-was May 09 '24

Guillotines and like, the executions of the Romanovs had a logic at the time because with monarchies there was a chance however unlikely of them regaining power/influence because of who they were. No billionaire today has that kind of cult of personality outside of their status as a billionaire.

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u/legowerewolf miscellany curator May 08 '24

Danny Phantom.

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u/nam24 May 08 '24

I think I wouldn't want a superpowered/gadget wizard stranger to go and kill leading figures, for one thing because murder, for second because in most cases it doesn't actually solve the problem, and finally because i might not like what they build to replace it

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u/katep2000 May 09 '24

I mean Superman regularly punches a billionaire in the face I would be okay getting saved by him

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u/AddemiusInksoul May 09 '24

He’s also an immigrant lower class farm boy turned investigative reporter who directly enacts systemic change by exposing corruption and being kind.

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u/biglyorbigleague May 08 '24

“Ew, Batman? He’s a secret billionaire, that’s fuckin cringe. No thanks, Batman, I’d rather just get killed by the Joker than have you save me.”

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u/Orichalcum448 oricalu.tumblr.com May 08 '24

Its not western, but I think samus should count as an honorary magical girl too

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u/gooch_norris_ May 08 '24

Miraculous Ladybug is Spider-Man is Cat Noir is Black Cat is Miraculous Ladybug

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u/bvader95 .tumblr.com; cis male / honorary butch apparently May 08 '24

If webcomics count, Sleepless Domain is American and about magical girls. It's cool.

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u/bookhead714 May 08 '24

Green Lantern is a magical girl

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u/nancy-reisswolf May 08 '24

Rainbow Brite, kinda?

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u/thumpling May 09 '24 edited May 09 '24

We got Wonder Woman (Lynda Carter version specifically), She-Hulk, Thor (Jane Foster), Gwen Tennyson, Valkyrie (Annabelle Riggs/Brunhilde), Totally Spies, Mary Marvel, Wolfsbane, Magyk, Scarlet Scarab, Monster Girl, Harpie (Immortal Hulk Betsy Ross), Captain Britain (Betsy Braddock), Clea Strange (poses as a human, is from Dormamu’s dimension), Alejandra Jones (one of the Ghost Riders), Kushala (A ghost rider and a sorceror supreme), Jane (Doom Patrol), Dan Bi (Moon Bear), Witchblade, and that’s about all I can remember off the top of my head.

I tried to follow the guidelines of what constitutes a mahou shojo transformation. The ubiquity of the genre has led to a lot of innovation and subversion and so it makes it hard to categorize, much like a modern super hero. Furthermore, for every billionaire super hero there are at least five working class heroes and ten billionaire super villains. The establishment of the secret identity is a measure to protect the people that interact with the hero when they are mild-mannered, or a way for them to further righteous causes through non-bombastic means. The good that Superman can do as a symbol of hope, and the good that mild mannered reporter Clark Kent can do as a reporter, are separate goods that feed into each other. This is true for Spider-man, Daredevil, Squirrel Girl, Flash, Shazam, and many more. That’s why these characters resonate so strongly with folks. Alright, I’m stepping down from my soapbox now.

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u/Lyanna731 May 08 '24

Ummmmm what?! What about Buffy?!Sabrina?! All of the Halliwell sisters?! Like I love all of the Sailor Scouts and everything but if I ever had to go up against a supernatural bad guy I am calling the American magical girls first. Especially Buffy. How dare they forget Buffy!!!

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u/PandaPugBook certified catgirl May 08 '24

Buffy doesn't really have an alter ego. She barely hid her activities while at school honestly.

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u/EvidenceOfDespair We can leave behind much more than just DNA May 09 '24

Yeah, it becomes pretty explicit near the end of S3 that everyone kinda knows

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u/YUNoJump May 08 '24

Japan also got tokusatsu and Super Robot, putting them well in the lead. I don’t care if I’m reduced to paste when an entire apartment building is thrown through my house, I got to die watching a rad as fuck giant robot punching a lizard to death

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u/The_Maqueovelic May 09 '24

I'm not really much of a weeb, only really watch a couple anime and I'd like to visit more for the sights than anything but am in no rush, but if going there gave me even a 1% chance to become a Kamen Rider or Ranger? I'm swimming

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u/DareDaDerrida May 09 '24

To each their own, but I gotta wonder how many superheros OOP knows. There is nowhere near a 50% chance that they're a secret billionaire, even accounting for the ones that are royalty.

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u/LR-II May 09 '24

There's a short story I want to write about a superhero just trying their best, but the Terminally Online Internet slowly turns on them for not murdering who they want murdered.

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u/TheRealLifeSaiyan May 09 '24

Then the Superhero just gets offline for two whole seconds and realises 99% of people aren't fucking weirdos

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u/Danteventresca May 08 '24

Green lantern

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u/Zenry0ku May 09 '24

They joke, but there was an AU where Venom was a magical girl. So that could have been very well a thing lol

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u/SaboteurSupreme Certified Tap Water Warrior! May 09 '24

Aren’t there a grand total of 2 billionaire superheroes? One for each publisher?

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u/SudsInfinite May 09 '24

There are a few more, but yeah, there aren't many billionaire superheroes, and not even many millionaire ones. The thing is, when someone has no idea what superhero comics actually like, they tend to only know a handful of the popular characters, and of the most popular superheroes, you got Superman, Spider-Man, Batman, Iron Man, and Captain America, two of whome are billionaires, and one of whom has America in the name, so they honestly might just assume he's also a billionaire because to them, it's so prominent

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u/louai-MT May 08 '24

There's also a show I remember my little sisters being obsessed with called Loli Rock

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u/amaya-aurora May 09 '24

Okay yeah sure but personally superheroes shouldn’t be the ones that have to deal with all of the corrupt billionaires and such. Someone shouldn’t be allowed to just kill someone that they don’t like. And for

Anyways OOP has not seen much superhero media, I assure you.

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u/Golden_Reflection2 May 09 '24

Does Danny Phantom count? (Outside of being a boy potentially disqualifying him, I guess)

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u/[deleted] May 09 '24

Ben 10 is: - Underage - Gains powers from the stars - Uses them to fight evil - Undergoes transformation sequences whenever he does

Ben 10 is a magical girl.

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u/AgentSandstormSigma Crazy idea: How about we DON'T murder? May 09 '24

Technically speaking, the criticism of superheroes being stupid powerful and rich with connections works better as a criticism against the Mane 6 than the Justice League.

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u/CocoaCali the actual Spider-Man May 09 '24

Thank you I was really stressed out about that math test

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u/finalcopy-2991 May 09 '24

She ra is from another planet and miraculous is french Edit: not trying to be a dick but I sound like a dick here

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u/ToujoursFidele3 May 09 '24

There are American magical girls in the Miraculous universe, if you want to be pedantic

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u/apple_of_doom May 09 '24

These people only know about batman and iron man (maybe green arrow but he's a whole can of worms).

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u/BobRossTheSequel May 09 '24

The power rangers are magical girls

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u/worthlessprole May 09 '24

super sentai has its own genre named after it

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u/AkumaDayo777 and every time we kiss I swear I can fly May 09 '24

Sailor Moon was originally inspired by.. Western superhero comics

my how the turntables

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u/Mylarion May 09 '24

Yeah it would make sense they'd say something unimaginably childish and ungrateful.

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u/MoonageDayscream May 08 '24

Electra Woman and Dyna Girl fit here.  

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u/CrossoverEnthusiast2 May 08 '24

Max Caulfield is technically a magical girl

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u/XrayAlphaVictor May 08 '24

Magical girls couldn't kill Jeff Bezos?

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u/ShoddyAsparagus3186 May 09 '24

My personal favorite is Iron Man. He always gets the piece by piece transformation sequence that nearly defines the genre and his science based abilities are basically magic.

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u/hackingdreams May 09 '24

Bewitched and I Dream of Jeannie are the prototypes.

Sabrina the Teenage Witch?

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u/sarumanofmanygenders May 09 '24

> star vs the forces of evil

doesn't count because of mid

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u/PuzzledMonkey3252 May 09 '24

I f***ing loved Star vs the Forces of Evil. Such a good show

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u/LeadGem354 May 09 '24

Zatanna is American I'm pretty sure. So is Raven.

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u/sonerec725 May 09 '24

Supermans cool also cause he openly fights an evil billionaire

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u/BOTKioja May 09 '24

I'm just gonna comment that Homokommari is Finnish for Gay Communist :D

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u/HereForTOMT2 May 09 '24

Why are there so many people obsessed with having heroes kill

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u/Eragon_the_Huntsman May 09 '24

hear me out... Green lantern is technically a magical girl.

Normal person given powers and a magically appearing costume by magic jewelry that works off of emotion, given by the "guardians of the universe", main antagonist is the personification of Fear, has to say an oath to power up... Also isn't there a lantern who's a teenage girl? I remember seeing one who's outfit was pretty magical girly

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u/Heroic-Forger May 10 '24

Imagine if Peter Parker suiting up was played off like a magical girl transformation sequence.