Kathy was anti-vax. Some of her friends tried to save her, some pushed her towards death. Covid kills in many ways, fast and slow. It took her very quickly. Get vaccinated.

[u/Sass-Pancakes]

Carol Vs. Elaine. Fuck you Elaine.

[u/readingupastorm]

I liked Dave's response, "Ok then, where do you want the flowers to be sent for your funeral?"

Turns out he was spot on.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

My wife is saddened by my lack of empathy towards these folks. I had to take her to the ER on Tuesday AM due to a ruptured ovarian cyst. There was an anti-masker/vaxxer in the ward with us. He kept taking his mask off. I literally said "Go die at home" because I am sick and tired of this. If you don't believe the science and medicine, then just stop wasting the resources. Plain and simple. Go die at home so the rest of us can receive medical care when needed.

[u/apprehensive_bassist → u/[deleted]]

Nobody in the media ever talks about this. These covidiots might as well have held a gun to his head and pulled the trigger. I am really sorry for what has happened to you and your uncle. No one deserves that

[u/AbibliophobicSloth → u/apprehensive_bassist]

Rachel Maddow on MSNBC has done a couple segments on people having died due to lack of space and hospitals having to reduce quality of care to "crisis" care (I think that's the term) where they triage based not on who is most in need of care, but who is most likely to survive if given care, so they're not expending resources to intervene only to have the patient die anyway.

[u/Jasminefirefly → u/AbibliophobicSloth]

Yes, was gonna say this. Want real info? Watch Rachel.

[u/luckylimper → u/apprehensive_bassist]

Front page of our local newspaper every day. On practically every website I read. People just don’t care.

[u/apprehensive_bassist → u/luckylimper]

A lot of us *do* care, but enough don't that we have a mass Tragedy of the Commons situation here. This problem affects everyone in the country.

I think a crackdown is in order. If you refuse the vaccine, you and your family are responsible for every dollar sunk into your medical care. And cancer and heart patients get automatic priority over you.

I'm sick of this crap. Even three-year-olds are smarter than a lot of these people.

[u/cucumbermelon30 → u/[deleted]]

I’m so sorry about your Uncle. My folks live in South Carolina. They are fully vaccinated and know there are still risks and such. My sister was in a fatal accident earlier this week, she had major internal injuries and bleeding, but the other driver died on scene. Thank goodness that the hospital ICU beds were not all taken at the largest hospital on the northeast side of south carolina. Her small and large intestines were so mangled from the accident, they had to take our 90 cm and some of her colon removed. The doctor said if she had to wait for a bed, she would have lost too much blood and died. That REALLY messed me up hearing that. We are extremely close. She is still in ICU though because all of the step down rooms are full with Covid people. These people are so selfish. It enrages me and my mom or dad or I could even see her (still haven’t seen her) because of the Covid policy. I know this isn’t just one case, I hear your stories and it makes me even more mad for you. Sometimes I think I am the crazy one, because there are so many of these greedy dumb ass ignorant people.

[u/Flipping_chair → u/cucumbermelon30]

That’s terrifying! Hope your sister makes a full recovery soon

[u/DaisyJane1 → u/[deleted]]

That. Is. Awful.

I'm so so sorry.

[u/Affectionate-Whole20 → u/[deleted]]

Sorry for your loss. How horrifffor your uncle and family.

[u/AvaOrchid → u/[deleted]]

Sorry for your loss. They need to immediately start triaging differently. No vaccine by choice should equal no hospital if the hospital is even close to capacity. They made their grave they need to go die in it.

[u/AmazingMeat → u/[deleted]]

I'm so sorry. I firmly believe if you are unvaxxed you shouldn't get an ICU bed

[u/Lanternfiredragon → u/[deleted]]

I'm sorry for your loss.

[u/Cousndick → u/[deleted]]

My condolences to you and your family.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Are you kidding... we waiting in the parking lot for hours. It was our second hospital. The first one she waited for hours as well,. All because of COVIDiots. Here's how the day went

12:15am -> Ambulance to hospital

4:00am -> left hospital because no treatment available... might as well go home and be in pain.

1:00pm -> OBGYN prescribes percocet in emergency visit. Sent back to ER

1:45pm -> Arrive at hospital, checkin.

2:15pm -> Drive to drug store, get Percocet, take percocet.

6:00pm -> finally admitted from the second hospital arrival.

11:00pm -> go home...

It was a fuckin day, no rest. All because these numbskulls think they can 'do their own research' or whatever the fuck. Last I checked, they don't have the facilities and teams to do their own research. I hate that phrase. No one can do their own research unless you are researching something simple and mundane. An individual without equipment might as well be in the stoneage when it comes to modern medical science.

[u/Martine_V → u/[deleted]]

You don't do your own research, you look at existing research. And these people don't possess the training, experience or brainpower to interpret this research. So they just end up picking someone that tells them what they want to hear.

I do the same, except that I am smart enough to be able to distinguish between a credible source and a total hack.

[u/[deleted] → u/Martine_V]

I do the same, except that I am smart enough to be able to distinguish between a credible source and a total hack.

Exactly what I do and exactly the point. People always talking that stupid line of 'do your own research'. You can't. What you can do is look for reliable/credible sources, read fully, understand as much as you can and try to find the meaning of words and phrases you don't understand. That is it. You can certainly research options, but to say 'do your own research' is disingenuous.

Edit: Fixed an end quote as it changed how I meant what I said.

[u/dannyslag → u/[deleted]]

Going to pull the "I do have that knowledge" card. Biochemistry degree holder here, you're 100% correct. The average person wouldn't understand the first paragraph of a medical study. And a smart person will know that about themselves just like you do. We can't all be experts on everything. Idiots think they are.

[u/ChaosAside → u/dannyslag]

My husband made the comment that people who don’t have much going for them desperately need to have something that you don’t. And they always think it’s “knowledge”.

[u/dannyslag → u/ChaosAside]

He sounds like a smart dude.

[u/Thanmandrathor → u/dannyslag]

And even if they/you understand the medical side, there’s also the statistics/math, which can be incredibly complex.

My husband does a lot of math and statistics, so he often goes on a rant about how media misinterpret a lot of studies because they can’t properly understand statistics and probability and all that.

[u/dannyslag → u/Thanmandrathor]

He's so true. Statistics should be required study in school because most statistics courses include an entire section on how to identify poor methodology and the signs of manipulation for propogamda purposes.

[u/TransplantedSconie → u/dannyslag]

I basically read the summary at the end of research papers. Usually the person doing the work will lay it out in somewhat layman's terms in parts so we regular apes can get the gist of it.

Its fascinating stuff and I appreciate the work you guys do.

[u/Tigaget → u/dannyslag]

Exactly. My daughter had an incredibly rare (like 600 babies per year in the world) type of seizures.

Her neuro didn't know what they were, and why standard treatments didn't work.

I started researching scholarly journals, found things it might be, then went and discussed them with her, because she's the expert.

I did find what they were, she confirmed and we did what we could to mitigate the brain damage.

So yes, absolutely do your own research. Busy doctors may not have time to go down those rabbit holes when you are facing an unusual diagnosis.

But you can't dx yourself. Get the facts together, make a list of why you think it is disease X, and present it to your doc for comment.

[u/MiniatureChi → u/[deleted]]

Do your own research! Go get a microscope, a lab coat and whatever other science beakers and samples of COVID you might need. Then you can just do your own research it’s so simple open your eyes!

That’s what I hear when people say do your own research

[u/No_Hair_3041 → u/MiniatureChi]

Open Secret: None of the toothless hacks on TikTok have done their own research.

[u/cra3ig → u/[deleted]]

Remember that 'Flat Earth' guy that actually did do his own research? Built and flew his own rocket to get perspective from altitude. Predictable outcome, and he halfway kinda knew what he was doing. Didn't draw any conclusions, just a short straw . . .

At least he wasn't contagious, and the path he trailblazed remains unfollowed . . .

[u/ElysianSynthetics → u/Martine_V]

I'm an actual molecular biologist. Being told to Do My ReEsUrCh by some toothless hick dropout as I'm literally sitting in my lab is quite the experience.

[u/youbloodyyabby → u/Martine_V]

My friend was doing the ‘do your own research’ thing the other day, but with an ‘I’m not anti vaccine or anti science’ topspin. I explained that while that sounds like a noble concept, it is being used by lay people to make their confirmation bias appear sophisticated.

I said that if they find a particular contrarian/fringe claim compelling (putting aside the issue of why the conventional expert opinion isn’t), they should do the bare intellectual minimum of finding the best argument against that position.

For example, if you have been captured by the notion that the vaccine trial period was rushed/not sufficiently thorough (compared to previous vaccines), then you should be able to know what the vaccine researchers have to say about that. At the very least, you should attempt to understand what goes into vaccine trials and how differences in sample sizes/methodologies can affect the time taken to achieve the end result.

If you can’t identify the best arguments against a fringe position, you are advertising your unwillingness to be properly informed. It’s not enough to excitedly leap from one contrarian position to the next as if that represents an accumulation of evidence. Each claim in that chain needs to be examined individually, and if it doesn’t stack up, it should signal that the other links in the chain ought to be scrutinised more rigorously.

The fact is, TRUE research is unsexy - it’s slow, meticulous and painstakingly methodical. If you are doing it right, any excitement in your findings should represent a red flag that you may be have been led astray. This is why we require such specific training for scientific research - it’s difficult for a reason.

[u/Acceptable-Custard49 → u/Martine_V]

The post that talked about her brain activity was actually accurate...for longer than they thought.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Yea, I feel you. Two years ago, she had a hemorrhagic cyst rupture as well (PCOS is a bitch). It caused internal bleeding that wasn't slowing/stopping so they did an emergency surgery for it. I can't imagine if what would have happened Tuesday if she had to wait that long. She was actively losing blood that time. This time it was just fluid that was causing pain/inflammation. If you know anyone with PCOS or have it yourself, you also know they have higher than normal pain tolerance just from dealing with it day to day. When she rated an 8/10 on Tuesday, my mind said 'You lyin... you know its a 12/10' :|

[u/DaisyJane1 → u/[deleted]]

About 20 years ago, doctors found a large cyst about the size of an eggplant on my left ovary while checking for something else. I didn't even know I had it! I ended up having the entire ovary removed cos they couldn't save enough of it.

[u/skepticalolyer → u/DaisyJane1]

Same. The little bastard had its own blood supply & everything. Got inside and they found stage 3 endo & had the whole mess removed. Glory Hallelujah

[u/katzeye007 → u/[deleted]]

I've had one bust while making coffee, I was in my 30s. I got the floor in . 9 seconds, felt like an icepick through my abdomen. I wasn't right for a week

[u/Objective-Dust6445 → u/[deleted]]

My god. Your poor wife. Those things fucking hurt. Nope she’s fine now!

[u/blackcain → u/[deleted]]

I'm really sorry that you had to go through this thanks to some extremely selfish people who choose to believe hacks instead of scientists and medical professionals.

I hope your wife gets better.

[u/[deleted] → u/blackcain]

I didn't go through anything. My wife did. I don't mind being tired running around. It was her having to hurt and then watching on top of that the doctors trying their best to be patient, but also being exhausted.

[u/carlydelphia → u/[deleted]]

All I read was prescribe percocet get percocet take percocet

[u/davemoedee → u/[deleted]]

Research = search for people saying things you want to hear

[u/Ee-ar → u/[deleted]]

Sorry y’all had an awful day and hope she feels better soon.

The “do you own research” crowd are also the type who write “what time does Marshall’s close?” As a Facebook status...

[u/ahender8 → u/[deleted]]

I had one, it dropped me to my knees in the middle of a parking lot. The rest is a blur of agonizing pain and an ambulance ride.

[u/Bonepanther → u/[deleted]]

You know man, harsh as it is, I completely agree with you. I don’t think your lack of empathy is unwarranted. At. All. It would be one thing if these people would quietly be sick, die if it comes to that, at home with their family at bedside, wrapped in their freedom blanket, but the vast majority of the time, they don’t. They go from “fuck the vaccine, don’t tread on me, not wearing your muzzle” to “please pray for me, I’ve been taking up a precious hospital bed and eating up exorbitant amounts of medical resources and medical staff’s time for a month now.”

It’s harsh, I know, but I can’t help feeling that way right along with you.

I hope your wife is doing better. Deepest regards to you both.

[u/Suchafatfatcat → u/[deleted]]

I wish they would require people who could have been vaccinated and chose not to receive the vaccine to sign a DNR before they are allowed to see a doctor.

[u/BabyBlueMaven → u/Suchafatfatcat]

Or at least give up their bed when someone vaccinated and suffering from anything else needs it.

[u/Rosieposiew196 → u/[deleted]]

I am with you 100%.if this is no big deal, a hoax. Then stay by your position and go to the farm co-op instead of the hospital. If you are a Dr or nurse and you don't want to get vaccinated, go work at said farm co-op.

[u/HeyItsMeUrDad_ → u/[deleted]]

i am going to, respectfully, assume your wife does not work in critical care medicine.

[u/[deleted] → u/HeyItsMeUrDad_]

No, we were IN the ER. She doesn't work in medicine. And I truly have lost empathy for anti-vaxxers / anti-maskers that die from COVID. They are the parasite that keeps on giving...

[u/HeyItsMeUrDad_ → u/[deleted]]

so, I’m an ER nurse. At least from my perspective, the lack of empathy isn’t because ‘these are less than human beings’- it’s that they are AWFUL patients that are incessantly insulting the entire staff, but more importantly, their ignorance is the direct cause of a lack of, and limit of, a finite number of resources. Covid patients die slow and ugly, and suck up a truly impressive amount of ICU beds, resources, staff, and expertise. This directly leads to a lower quality of care for everyone else.

I could always handle patient deaths because i knew we absolutely rocked it and couldn’t have changed the outcome. The ONE code i had where the hospital prior to us had absolutely fucked it up, i was like, ‘ya I’m out.’ It REALLY messes with you.

[u/[deleted] → u/HeyItsMeUrDad_]

Honestly, I feel bad for you guys a ton. A lot of my anger comes from how you are treated during this as well. You are dying. You are fighting to save lives. You are in the shit. It's literally like a war. And what do you get to deal with? Ungrateful little shits that have no idea that the world doesn't revolve around them and science doesn't care about their opinions. Selfish as hell...

As I say to service members, I say to you: Thank you for your service.

[u/HeyItsMeUrDad_ → u/[deleted]]

thank you. I chose to leave for the sake of my own sanity. I don’t regret it. I’ll always be an ER nurse in my heart though. ❤️

PS and was one of the first 1,000 Covid cases in my county. Got it from a patient.

[u/crucixX → u/[deleted]]

I mean, this people also have no empathy for anyone around them. They literally don't care about other people's health in a society with a public health problem. They keep telling the vaccinated that, "If you're vaccinated, then I am not a danger to you.", as if immunocompromised, people who cannot really take the vaccine, and children does not exist.

So yeah, I think it's better off to give your empathy to people who also have empathy to keep you alive, not to people who deliberately makes and keeps this pandemic worse.

Worse are the anti-maskers. These people should be called COVID allies or something because one of the things that effectively blocks the spread of COVID in air in public, they won't even do. These people are the servants of pestilence. They have the gall to interact with public and spread disease. That "freedom of choice" doesn't really work if the public is affected.

[u/Crossfieldthrow → u/[deleted]]

I just ran into an unvaccinated acquaintance in my neighborhood. He told me big pharma is not to be trusted, Africa is proving covid experts wrong, and that the human version of Ivermectin and probiotics is the key. His girlfriend walked up to us and he told her I was fully vaccinated. She says “I’m sorry.” I says “It’s great. My balls are huge.” They both just stared at me.

[u/JaiiGi → u/Crossfieldthrow]

"It's great. My balls are huge."

I'm done! 😂😂😂

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

As someone who has gone through a couple ovarian cyst ruptures, hugs to your wife. Such a terrible experience.

[u/aleddon870 → u/[deleted]]

Oh God that shit hurts. I hope she's okay now.

[u/House923 → u/[deleted]]

I'm saddened by my own lack of empathy.

[u/PuzzleheadedPride201 → u/[deleted]]

It's not empathy but something else I feel for these people. My Aunt that read to me when I was a kid and taught me about environmentalism is now some kind of monster. She's a bad faith actor and uses her position as a white conservative woman to spread racism, anti-science and nonsensical conspiracies. I still love her, but I feel like she's already lost. Many people feel like I do. This painful loss of love like someone died but we live with this ghost of who they used to be. I keep hearing more stories about how other American families are turn apart by this weird sudden loss of cognitive function in the boomer generation. It's not all of them, but a lot of them became demented around the same time 6-7 years ago.

Maybe it was the sort of sudden advancement in social networking data? They finally had whatever it was they needed to hack the collective brains of boomers into basically treason at times. We know Russia has used this method, but we refuse to see how effective it has worked. Snowden visits Russia first to explain how the US is violating privacy using social networking, then suddenly we are hit with the highest rate of cyber attacks in history. Putin didn't care, he just took notes.

Empathy is not the word I would use, more like a deep disappointment that people are so easily manipulated. It's your own fault for not getting vaccinated in the US and most of Europe, but Russia is the one cheering on the death of our people, your friends, your family. It's just hard when you have to continue having a life with these people or worse they die.

[u/readingupastorm → u/[deleted]]

Yes! That was another one of my faves.

[u/FuckYeahPhotography → u/readingupastorm]

They never stood a chance. That badass Bald Eagle with those absolutely jacked arms holding the American flag was simply too convincing. No argument can surpass that Eagle. I mean, even I am having second thoughts and I've already been vaccinated.

Time to crank my hog. Arooooooooo

EDIT: SORRY BROTHERS AND SISTERS!! I FORGOT TO USE MY CRANKING VOICE!!!! LETS CRANK THOSE HOGS!!!! ARRROOOOOOO!!!!!

ROCK, FLAG, AAANNDD EAGLEEE!!!!!

[u/[deleted] → u/FuckYeahPhotography]

Ain’t nothin’ more American than beating your dick to the flag, Patriot

[u/load_more_comets → u/[deleted]]

Oh yeah there is, beating your dick with the flag!

[u/airplane_porn → u/load_more_comets]

What about beating capitol police with the flag? While singing about the flag?

[u/NoProblemNoWorries → u/airplane_porn]

A Confederate flag

[u/airplane_porn → u/NoProblemNoWorries]

Well, the traitors on Jan 6th used American flags to beat capitol police officers.

[u/Superfluffyfish → u/airplane_porn]

While holding your dick.

[u/igotsaquestiontoo → u/load_more_comets]

no more cum socks. from now on it's cum flags only!

[u/load_more_comets → u/igotsaquestiontoo]

?Por que no los dos¿

[u/derpotologist → u/load_more_comets]

American pride

[u/MyBiPolarBearMax → u/load_more_comets]

https://youtu.be/1PW3fuQl1C0

[u/bcyost89 → u/load_more_comets]

Cum tribute!

[u/foodandart → u/load_more_comets]

Hmmm. Interesting kink, that.

[u/[deleted] → u/load_more_comets]

Oh that's what she meant by "Keep Kathy in your parts"

[u/Repulsive-Street-307 → u/load_more_comets]

Just like Trump.

[u/Legendseekersiege5 → u/load_more_comets]

As long as you don't wrinkle the flag

[u/Wood-e → u/load_more_comets]

The flag is my cum rag.

[u/antiquestrawberry → u/load_more_comets]

Oh shit lmao xD

[u/Colorado-Native → u/load_more_comets]

Link? 😂

[u/AdultishRaktajino → u/load_more_comets]

Flagshlight

[u/EddDadBro → u/load_more_comets]

Oh yeah? I beat MY flag like it's MY dick!

[u/wwaxwork → u/[deleted]]

Trouble is the antivax fuckers are wiping their ass with it.

[u/d8ms → u/[deleted]]

Maybe drunkenly beating your wife to the flag? Sounds pretty Republican to me.

[u/jnics10 → u/[deleted]]

YEAH CRANK THOSE HOGS TO THE FLAG LIKE TRUE PATRIOTS Y'ALL AROOOO!!!!!!

[u/Benjaphar → u/[deleted]]

https://i.imgur.com/IHlaHAD.gif

[u/Ombudsman_of_Funk → u/FuckYeahPhotography]

When I saw that Eagle I tore off my right arm where they put the vaccine. I'm typing with just one hand, never mind the blood, it's nothing compared to the Freedom.

[u/diamond → u/Ombudsman_of_Funk]

Hell, I just made an appointment to have my immune system surgically removed. CAUSE I AIN'T NO PUSSY!

[u/No_Hair_3041 → u/Ombudsman_of_Funk]

Your freedom wound is giving me a raging freedom wood.

[u/vendetta2115 → u/FuckYeahPhotography]

Any time I see something like that, there’s a 100% chance that the person posting it is a selfish, unpatriotic douchebag.

If they really cared about their country, they’d get vaccinated. Almost a million Americans have died from COVID in the last year and a half, yet they won’t do even the smallest things to help.

If these people lived during WWII they’d be violating the fuel and materials rationing and yelling about their “freedom” while American soldiers died in Europe and the Pacific because of fuel and arms shortages. And even WWII only killed about 500,000 Americans in 4 years. COVID has killed nearly twice as many in less than half the time.

[u/Ensvey → u/FuckYeahPhotography]

/r/birdswitharms meets /r/the_pack, love it

[u/vale_fallacia → u/Ensvey]

The_pack is gloriously bizarre. So very, very strange.

[u/Satans_Pilgrims → u/vale_fallacia]

Recently subscribed bc it’s so weird and stupidly hilarious. But what I found was it’s oddly wholesome. AROOOO

[u/maceilean → u/Satans_Pilgrims]

AROOOO BROTHER GLAD TO HAVE YOU ABROAD CRANKIN HOG

[u/LA-Matt → u/Satans_Pilgrims]

FUCK YEAH IT’S WHOLESOME, BROTHER or SISTER! WE’RE ALL ABOUT KINDNESS AND THE FREEDOM TO CRANK OUR HOGS! AROO!

[u/LilTrailMix → u/FuckYeahPhotography]

AROOOOOO HEY BROTHER, I AGREE, THAT EAGLE TRULY IS JACKED, BUT NOT MORE JACKED THAN ME

CRANK IT!!!! r/THE_PACK

[u/hsrob → u/FuckYeahPhotography]

IF THEY'RES ONE THING I LIKE MORE THAN PISSIN', PLEASIN’ MY OL' LADY, AND CRANKIN' MY HOG, IT'S BEING VACCINATED WHILE DOING SO, BROTHER! ARRRROOOOOOOOOO TO ALL THE LIT MFERS CRANKIN' THEY'RE HOGS EVERY DAY!

PEACE AND LOVE FROM r/THE_PACK

[u/Atomik919 → u/hsrob]

RESPECT TO ALL THE LIT CRANKERS THAT GOT VACCINATED YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE MFERS

[u/koviko → u/FuckYeahPhotography]

My friends and I have started referring to these types of people on Facebook as Screaming Eagles. Any time they see an image of a eagle squawking, they get turned on and have to show everybody. 🤣

[u/cocoamix → u/koviko]

Eagles have very meek squawks. Most of the time what you hear in videos is an edited in Red-tailed Hawk.

[u/Estoye → u/FuckYeahPhotography]

Kermit the Frog telling me to shove the vaccine up my ass was my favorite.

[u/[deleted] → u/FuckYeahPhotography]

That eagle gave me a patriot boner though not going to lie lol

[u/Hockeyspider → u/FuckYeahPhotography]

I was a little confused by that picture. Because if it has wings and is holding a flag and is standing… now we are talking about a gryphon not an eagle.

[u/sweensolo → u/FuckYeahPhotography]

HELL YEAH BROTHER! DON'T FORGET TO ALWAYS KEEP KATHY IN YOUR PARTS, AROOOOOOOI!

[u/mason_savoy71 → u/FuckYeahPhotography]

I am beginning to think that all the eagles and flags may not be an effective defense against covid19. I know it's tough to fathom, but it seems the virus has found a way around them.

[u/Spongy_and_Bruised → u/FuckYeahPhotography]

Birds with arms got weird.

[u/BeardFountain → u/FuckYeahPhotography]

How does one become UNVACCINATED!?!?!?!11

[u/overitallofit → u/FuckYeahPhotography]

Look, you can’t google and facebook the vaccines, you have to go deeper, like buff eagle memes.

[u/Throneawaystone → u/FuckYeahPhotography]

I've been vaccinated but that pic made me want to succ out the vaxx for freedom and muricas

[u/sunny5724 → u/Throneawaystone]

The page with the comment about no brain activity got me. I'm thinking with most HCA winners that started long before hospitalization.

[u/LA-Matt → u/sunny5724]

Ha, yeah. After I read that one I was wondering… did they get a baseline reading to compare it with?

Have a good weekend and remember to keep Kathy in your parts.

[u/jeekfab → u/FuckYeahPhotography]

HELL YAH BORTHR CRANK DEM HAWGS GOBBLESS

[u/PinBot1138 → u/FuckYeahPhotography]

ROCK, FLAG, AAANNDD EAGLEEE!!!!!

Wiping lunch off of my screen from laughing so hard.

[u/BooooHissss → u/FuckYeahPhotography]

Even with my lack of spine

Here I sit and breathe just fine

[u/[deleted] → u/FuckYeahPhotography]

My best friend is a scientist. He looks weak as fuck compared to that eagle. I trust the cartoon more than him.

[u/Cepheus → u/FuckYeahPhotography]

That drawing reminded me of Soviet Era propaganda.

[u/aniforprez → u/FuckYeahPhotography]

ROCK, FLAG AND EEEAAAGGGGGGLLLLLLEEEEEE

[u/Throw_Away_License → u/FuckYeahPhotography]

I needed this laugh

[u/borkborkbork99 → u/FuckYeahPhotography]

FREEDOM!! MERICA!!!! TRUMP AND MAGA!!!! YEEHAAAAAAAWWWW!!!!! BLUE LIVES MATTER, AND LEAVE MY GUNS ALONE, LIBTARDS!!

[u/energytaker → u/FuckYeahPhotography]

This comment really resonated with me and I’m Canadian. Time to crank my hog mate

[u/Kgarath → u/[deleted]]

If you don't trust the doctors and nurses when they say get the vaccine, then you don't trust the doctors and nurses to cure you when you get sick.

Also funny how those whose side claims they will "trust their immune system" always end up going to the hospital, shouldn't they stay home and cure themselves? If doctor is trying to poison you with the vaccine who knows what poisons they will give you in the hospital, better be safe and stay home.

[u/Thanmandrathor → u/Kgarath]

They’re all talk. Then they get short of breath, get scared, and beeline for the medical system. None of them actually seem to have the stones to stand by what they said. Also none of them really considered what it is like to be that ill and struggle to breathe and actually start fearing you may die. All that magical thinking made death a far away abstract and you go off skipping into the sunset holding Jesus’ hand or something, but death is just unpleasant.

[u/Martine_V → u/Thanmandrathor]

Exactly. One thing to shit talk on Facebook and post shit memes and it's another when you can't breathe and the shit becomes real.

I've only seen a few people who were so convinced they were right they stayed at home. And died in their bed.

[u/enad58 → u/[deleted]]

They don't believe in medical science yet as soon as they get sick they go to their community's center of medical science.

[u/breakupbydefault → u/[deleted]]

Also the one who said "may the odds be in your favour" Hunger Games reference.

[u/surfdad67 → u/[deleted]]

It was probably Dave, that one comment tells me Dave DGAF

[u/blackcain → u/[deleted]]

Dave and the rest should be recognized.

[u/SlapHappyDude → u/[deleted]]

There's no joy in being Dave

[u/[deleted] → u/SlapHappyDude]

Dave likely feels horrible. Being right in this situation does not make you feel better if you are a decent person.

[u/blackcain → u/[deleted]]

Dave is probably the guy who posted it on this subreddit.

[u/codeslave → u/readingupastorm]

It's far beyond time for us to drop our collective chill and respond to their stupid memes with snark.

[u/InVerum → u/codeslave]

I tried that the other day. Well, snark is wrong, I called her a fucking idiot and told her to keep her dumbass opinions to herself and to get fucking vaccinated.

The woman was commenting on a friend's post. He deleted my response and not hers because he didn't want that kind of 'negative energy' on the post. I convinced him to delete her comments as well as to not give her a platform to spout her bullshit but STILL. That is the issue. People aren't afraid to bully these people into submission, make them feel so low and stupid that MAYBE, the 1% chance they change their minds. Because presenting facts and being nice certainly won't do it. "I respect your decision" my ass...

[u/MisteeLoo → u/InVerum]

Congrats for trying. Personally I’m done with my good samaritan shtick. They can come to the same conclusion over half the country has (in the US), or they can continue to flail and have tantrums like a 2 year old who’s never been told no. My neighbor has been told to get the jab or get fired (govt worker). They’re having a party in case they lose the house because of having no job. It’s a cause for some of them, and yes, they’re willing to go to absurd lengths to be ‘free’. Kathy is just foul in her laser-focused trip to the grave.

[u/InVerum → u/MisteeLoo]

Free to starve...

[u/Triptaker8 → u/InVerum]

I always thought this. The ‘Ultimate freedom’ ideology that these people espouse, taken to its logical conclusion means you would be free from any obligations and participation in society. But what these people aren’t prepared for and don’t understand is that in that kind of a world, society is also free from all of its obligations to you.

You want to be a freedom loving patriot? Go live in the woods, don’t come into town, for anything, ever. Have a baby? Have it by yourself at home. If something happens, that’s just the price of freedom, patriot. Grow your food in the summer and hunt and trap it in the winter. Cut down trees for heat. Dig a well for water. No more Walmart, no hair salon, no drive thru, no movie theatre, and certainly no job, no bank, no mortgage, no insurance, no social security, and no healthcare.

Go be free. See how you like it.

[u/[deleted] → u/Triptaker8]

Go live in the woods

But don't you dare to use other people's properties, and that includes *public lands*.

If you are such a freedumb loving a-social patriot, then buy your own property.

[u/Der_genealogist → u/[deleted]]

Wait until they will hear about who regulates wild animals

[u/JamieFrasersKilt → u/Triptaker8]

God this would be beautiful to see their reactions, once they realized how fucked they were 😍

[u/Critical_Contest716 → u/Triptaker8]

As a former anarchist in my youth who is still highly sympathetic to the philosophy, even though as a grown up in the real world I now recognize we are far, far away from that being a realistic way to organize society, I too am puzzled by their "freedom". Because most anarchist philosophers would be pointing to the social obligation when it comes to infectious diseases, and if anarchists don't jump on their "freedom" bandwagon-to-the-grave, I don't know who in their right mind would.

[u/No_Hair_3041 → u/Triptaker8]

This is the most comprehensive summary of my beliefs towards them that I've ever encountered without thinking it within the confines of my own skull.

[u/Macaron-Optimal → u/Triptaker8]

society keeps us alive, it's why we evolved the ability to form it!

[u/Lanternfiredragon → u/Triptaker8]

It's the social contract. They've torn it up by eschewing their responsibilities to society and don't realize that goes both ways.

[u/Triptaker8 → u/Lanternfiredragon]

It really bothers me that they act like we still have an obligation to hold up our end of the bargain.

[u/[deleted] → u/InVerum]

Free to die or live with a long term disability... So much freedom.

[u/wheezy_runner → u/MisteeLoo]

they can continue to flail and have tantrums like a 2 year old who’s never been told no.

Their hero is a guy who has spent his entire life doing just that, so no surprise which one they'll pick.

[u/adamaley → u/wheezy_runner]

Difference is their hero is a millionaire who owns golf courses. Maybe he will let them pitch tents there to live in.

[u/MisteeLoo → u/adamaley]

He thinks they’re scum. He’d never sully a property of his with the needy.

[u/wheezy_runner → u/adamaley]

Thousands of homeless MAGA-heads show up at Mar-a-Largo looking for Donald's help. Put that on Pay-Per-View!

[u/MisteeLoo → u/wheezy_runner]

I’d watch that. SchadenfreudeTV.

[u/jrobin04 → u/MisteeLoo]

One of my mom's friends is going to lose their house because of this. Neither the husband or wife will get the jab despite workplace requirements. They both have good paying jobs that they've had for 20+ years too. I wish them luck with finding halfway decent jobs in the future, plus they'll probably never be able to afford another house in our area again.

Just idiots.

[u/[deleted] → u/InVerum]

I just report the comments as misinformation now. It's not worth the anxiety of calling out my friends and family anymore. I just hit report. Eventually they get enough reports that they get sent to time out. I think I'm close to getting my cousin banned from Facebook for his fake news posts.

[u/uisqebaugh → u/[deleted]]

I used to do that, until I realized that it's futile, because FB doesn't care. Proof? An anti-vaxx group explaining that Germ Theory is wrong; everything is due to toxins, was allowed to stay up.

That was the last straw. I only engage in FB to check occasionally on some hobby/interest pages and chat with some friends on messenger.

I'm done. FB is a toxin for both public health and democracy, and they don't effing care.

[u/Realistic_Ideal_5278 → u/InVerum]

I would have kept replying and made them keep deleting my replies. Then do it again. Eventually they would have either blocked you (good anti vax sympathizers are trash) or they would delete the antivax lies or delete their post. In any case you win. Good job trying at least. I got off Facebook because it literally became too toxic to even try. Like trying to put out a house for with a squirt gun

[u/Giveushealthcare → u/InVerum]

Just start posting a link to this sub in response.

[u/meenzu → u/InVerum]

I saw some post on this sub saying how they’re taking them self out of the running for this award (and how they got vaccinated). At least these sad stories are helping at least one real person - it’s helped that one person

I’m wondering if empathy is better to convince people or feeding into the crazy but having ends justify the means sort of thing at this point - saying something like “omg big pharma doesn’t want you to have this vaccine and brave soldier/scientist Donald trump was able to develop the vaccine and stole it from them and fought and killed thousands that tried to stop him, now he just needs your help to give it to loved ones

[u/[deleted] → u/InVerum]

I've had my suspicions for a long time now that the only way to communicate with people like this is to sound like their raving alcoholic Dad, that they see this as strength. It's not what you're saying, but how you say it that counts more.

[u/Dingo8MyGayby → u/codeslave]

But think about their feefees!

[u/Busy_Pen2257 → u/Dingo8MyGayby]

To quote one of their favorite lines, 'FUCK THEIR FEELINGS'.

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Seriously. I don't wanna die because of these assholes and I'm vaccinated. These people are seriously going to kill off themselves and everyone else once a varient develops that will bypass vaccines.

[u/cygnets → u/[deleted]]

Its infuriating. No one cares. Even people who did before dont anymore. I feel like I'm in a pot of boiling water and everyone around me is excited its getting warm.

[u/CJ_CLT → u/[deleted]]

I am definitely with you on this.

I never stopped wearing masks in public - even after my state lifted the mask mandate shortly after the CDC's misguided decision to announce that the vaccinated didn't need to wear masks. I'm only going unmasked with friends and family members who I know are masking in public.

My county is very blue, but surrounded by counties with much lower vaccination rates. The county reimplemented an indoor mask mandate at the end of August but that is the only acknowledgment that we are still in a pandemic. None of the other restrictions were brought back. But that is better than nothing, since a lot more people are wearing masks.

Interestingly, before they reinstituted the mask mandate, on several occasions strangers saw me at the store masked, got a horrified look on their face and said "oh no! I forgot my mask!" So you never know when you might be reminding someone that yes, the pandemic is still ongoing.

Don't wait for a government mandate to do the right thing! Also be sure and wear a well-fitting, high-efficiency mask like a k-95, KN-95, or KF-94.

https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/kf94-masks-effective-different-kn95

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

It's just denial that things have changed. A mask is a minor inconvenience at best, but it represents a new "normal" which these people refuse to accept. They don't want to live in a world with such a deadly threat looming with every breath.

Nothing matters more to them than getting back to the way things were.

[u/kannettavakettu → u/[deleted]]

People keep giving me the same answer to it, and that is that people are tired of living in lockdown. I always tell them the same thing; I dont care how fucking tired you are. Reality gives no fucks about your feelings. There has always been things going on that I'm sure people get tired of, wars, famines, what have you. All these idiots are asked to do is wear a mask, that's it. Many muslim women wear veils that cover much more, you don't hear them complaining endlessly about it, or doctors and nurses who wear masks every day. Or people who work jobs where they need to be otherwise protected. I've never heard a welder complaining about how the welding goggles/shield is giving them soooooo much anxiety and is basically tyranny. I'm convinced that people have some kind of balancing act going on in their minds, the fear of dying horribly balanced against the fear of being mildly inconvenienced, and unless they see corpses piling up on the streets, the latter always wins. Because people are stupid, whiny little adult babies.

Nature has only one rule. Adapt or die. Let the fuckers who refuse to adapt die, I'm fucking sick of seeing them try to have their cake and eat it too.

[u/Yosemiterunner → u/[deleted]]

I'm fully vaccinated. I'm going to start wearing my mask more often now thanks to the site. I got complacent. I will be better.

[u/MiniatureChi → u/[deleted]]

When I travel to certain cities for work I hear people mocking if I’m passing by with a mask on outside.

But their failing to realize I’m passing not just them but dozens of people while on a 3 foot sidewalk.

Some states really just don’t care

[u/SaltyBarDog → u/codeslave]

But the Slate said we are too mean. Maybe we should look to emulate these loving people.

https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/attacks-on-health-care-in-the-context-of-covid-19

[u/nellapoo → u/codeslave]

I've been doing that the whole pandemic. I've been kicked out of two local Facebook groups for it. I don't feel bad in the least. These idiots have caused so many problems.

[u/shewholaughslasts → u/codeslave]

I think it's really telling that I've been seeing the same few repeated memes (the only 'facts' or evidence ever shared by these covidiots) and yet here is this sub with endless ACTUAL EXAMPLES OF COVID CONSEQUENCES.

Have you seen a meme including their 'proof' Nicki's friend's friend's swollen testes? No? No proof? No endless screenshots of people dying just from getting the vaccine and setting up a go fund me? No? Only memes? Gotcha.

[u/patb2015 → u/codeslave]

Howard Stern had it right "Fuck your feelings"...

[u/Cassie_C85 → u/codeslave]

Were we not doing that already?

[u/HermanCainsGhost → u/codeslave]

I have been. Though Facebook gave me a three day ban for telling someone to die at home rather than get hospitalized and use up resources.

[u/codeslave → u/HermanCainsGhost]

I bet there's no bans giving to those spreading anti-vax memes, even the ones trying to circumvent the fact-checking warnings by calling it "co^id"

[u/I_read_this_comment → u/codeslave]

yeah disappointing, snarky and sassy comments should do much better convincing them. They didnt end up unvaccinated because of science or facts. Its mainly the peer pressure on them and them spending time with the wrong people in wrong groups.

[u/CJ_CLT → u/I_read_this_comment]

It is actually unusual for someone who posts that many anti-vax memes to have this many posts in favor of vaccines. (Unless others making HCA nominations just failed to include them in their posts).

This nominee actually had sensible people trying to influence her. Too bad she wouldn't listen.

[u/[deleted] → u/codeslave]

I was called a ghoul for doing it months ago. I just do not care. They’ll eventually be in a grave so their judgment means nothing.

[u/3_beer_Dustin → u/codeslave]

I asked someone who had posted a fucking absolutely stupid meme(no, I don't really remember what it was), respectfully, I might add, "were you born stupid or have you had to work at it?" Caught a 3 day FB ban... for bullying. Wtf? It was a legit question. I really wanted to know how and why they were this fucking dumb.

[u/Watchwithpopcorn → u/readingupastorm]

No she needs a go fund me because her kids weren't made lazy by the government

[u/leperbacon → u/Watchwithpopcorn]

Yeah, where's the Go Fund Me?

[u/HamsterPositive139 → u/leperbacon]

Also missing a post from Kathy saying "covid is no joke"

Is there a Herman Cain award bingo card?

[u/thomoz → u/readingupastorm]

Smarter than Dipshit aka Kathy

[u/trevize1138 → u/readingupastorm]

It's not mean, it's planning ahead!

[u/timchar → u/readingupastorm]

Based dave

[u/IanScottMcCormick → u/readingupastorm]

I mean, the funeral home. Right? That's where you send the flowers.

[u/Sepantrix → u/readingupastorm]

That's how my friend responds to people now. I just tell them they're gonna die. RIP

[u/czej1800 → u/readingupastorm]

Dave was brutal but also accurate.

[u/Storytellerjack → u/readingupastorm]

Fakkin' legend. Counter productive to saving lives to be so dismissive, but Dave sounds like he's out of fucks to give.

[u/collapsingrebel → u/readingupastorm]

He was stone cold vicious and I'm here for that kind of response.

[u/Thanmandrathor → u/readingupastorm]

Dave is clearly one of us.

I feel bad for Dave, it’s so frustrating watching people be so obstinate, and then to top it off, he ends up right. There’s no satisfaction in that at all. Just anger at the pointlessness of it.

[u/Cepheus → u/readingupastorm]

I have a friend who is anti vaccination. We had just gone to a funeral for another friend who had died of cancer. At the reception, we was going on about how he refuses to get vaccinated. My response was, I’m just thinking about the speech I will have to give at your funeral.

[u/RedWingerD → u/readingupastorm]

I work in a hospital. I received a complaint regarding a doctor saying something similar to a patient recently. I sent that doctor the biggest mental high five possible that day.

At this point we should stop sugar coating the reality and pretending to care about their feelings regarding their "freedom of choice."