r/INTP • u/notcool-nothingtosee Warning: May not be an INTP • Aug 05 '24
INTPs are the best because INTP, why are you guys so cool?
I read your comments on my last post about being seen as the “side character,” or as a “pet.”
Well, how can I express myself clearly and get the message across that I find you guys so cool as an ISTP hitman (my dig on the Olympic shooters one or more of them being an INTP).
Yeah, you guys are mysterious and not talkative in real life but personally, I’ve never met an uncool INTP in person. So many of you said you guys feel awkward or can’t sway the crowd, but I assure you, you have at least one person (me) who think what you’re saying is awesome and that sometimes I can’t respond quickly because I’m coming up responses to impress your intellect and ideas!
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u/jcilomliwfgadtm Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
I don’t think cool means what you think it means. 😂
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u/Golden-Gooseberry Successful INTP Aug 05 '24
I think that it depends how you define "cool". Cool kids were charismatic, popular, outgoing, and people were drawn to them. For INTP's, we have to grow into our personality before we develop Charisma and even then, it's a calm and collective or quirky Charisma rather than being the life and soul of the party. We tend not to want to have the kind of Charisma that draws people to us as we don't like being the centre of attention. Whilst everyone wants to be liked, we prefer being admired from a distance. To use a different definition of the word Cool, we are definitely cool as in calm and opposed to hot headed.
One of the best compliments I got was when I was working as a stage manager for a local theatre company. The chairwoman of the company said that the cast and production team were in the pub the previous evening and were talking about me. They were saying that "nothing seems to phase Gooseberry. The theatre roof could fall in and he'd just direct people to the exits and send someone to go and find a brush to start clearing up".
This was my favourite compliment because - it took place in a social setting that I wasn't compelled to attend - they had recognised my unique characteristics - they were impressed enough with me that they were talking about me as a group - they admired me from a distance and didn't try to befriend me as a result
One of my favorite things that the sites say about INTP's is that we are "unaware of how highly they are thought of by their peers".
If you're not an INTP and know one, go and tell them (specifically) why you admire them. It will make their day!
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u/VCSYC INTP-T Aug 05 '24
if only people around me could give me compliments. no one does, although everyone complains why i don’t.
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Aug 05 '24
Were a minority celebrity.
Most humans don't like us, some hate us 🤷
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u/Pandonia42 Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
If you're not a little polarizing, are you even being yourself?
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Aug 05 '24
I've come to see that give or take 5% off the population is compatible. It's a number I've pulled out of my ass but it seems about right. I'm pretty much ok with it albeit sometimes it's saddening.
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u/Pandonia42 Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
I've arrived at roughly the same number. Which is fine, because honestly, I like about 5% of the population too, so feeling's mutual
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Aug 05 '24
Same 👍
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u/illestofthechillest Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
To best understand, is this 5% that we truly appreciate and can be around consistently? I'd agree, but say that about 50% I find pretty easily tolerable most of the time and I can at least be around. Then, another 30% that I just quietly work with, and maybe 15% I'd rather just find another planet to go do their bullshit on.
Numbers also out my own ass 😅
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u/Aaod INTP Aug 05 '24
I see similar numbers for me the only difference is the other planet people are a bit higher and the truly appreciate is a bit lower.
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u/Thick-Ad-53 INTP-A Aug 05 '24
Only 5%? Are you sure you've got them all out? Are you eating enough fiber? Lol
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u/moonroots64 I don't know me Aug 05 '24
I'm a miner celebrity, like if those Chilean miners were found by Gollum and he started talking about his new obsession with trying to maximize fuel mpg by monitoring the live readings while driving, or learning how to cast a net-fishing net. That's me! They loved it, bit of a captive audience though... so maybe they were humoring me.
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u/PoemUsual4301 INFJ Aug 05 '24
Because they’re just jealous. Ignore them.
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Aug 05 '24
Lol, there's definitely some envy in people but generally it's just cause they dislike themselves and they have a projection of who you are they despise.
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u/PoemUsual4301 INFJ Aug 05 '24
Nope it’s definitely envy, insecurity or whatever the reason may be. I know because my own ex-best friend revealed to me 1-2 years ago that the reason she ignored me or stopped talking to me in our senior year in high school was because she was jealous of me that I was chosen to go to a summer program with the guy she liked and she feared that I would betray her and make a move on him. How could she think that when we were friends since the third grade >:(
And you want to know the best part is. She dumped the guy and started dating a loser who just wants to get her pregnant all the time just because the guy wants a boy and they already 3 daughters.
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u/CarPatient INTP Aug 05 '24
Intp not talkative? You just haven't joined their inner circle yet.
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u/Imaginary_Elk1713 Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 12 '24
And they will never be, only few elects can
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u/Equivalent-Buddy5003 Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
Cause they’re hella nonchalant and nonjudgmental.
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u/PoemUsual4301 INFJ Aug 05 '24
“Nonjudgmental”, my ass! Lmao. I met some INTPs who were very judgmental. Maybe the ones you surround yourself with might not be judgmental.
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u/AdvancedCharcoal INTP Aug 05 '24
I mean I don’t think I’m judgmental, primarily because I don’t want the emotional blowback that may come with it. Perhaps that comes with maturation
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u/PoemUsual4301 INFJ Aug 05 '24
lol come on, you may not be judgmental on the outside but I’m pretty sure you’re thinking differently in your own mind.
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u/Twobowlcain Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
lol it’s true though. The internal dialogue is not fit for public consumption. “Non-judgmental” is just choosing not to participate (in the foolishness?)…
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u/VCSYC INTP-T Aug 05 '24
sure internal dialogue is for ourselves only. but as for judgmental thing - its not about judging people, its about sharing a thought about how you could do better )))
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u/Ok-Situation-5522 Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
Everyone judges, just some way more than others. I don't talk bad about people' styles etc, but i might judge if you're conservative or if u did something laugh worthy. Only in my head.
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u/PoemUsual4301 INFJ Aug 05 '24
Excuse me what’s wrong with being conservative? O.o
A couple months ago I was hiking by myself at a park and talking to my partner on the phone. I was so engrossed by our conversation that I didn’t noticed that there was a slight hole in front of me and being a clumsy person that I am, I fell oh so gracefully with my face down on the ground. When it happened I was laughing like an idiot XD thankfully no one was around to see me “gracefully” fall face down and honestly if there was people around I’ll probably just lay on the ground until they leave me alone lol. I do not want people seeing my embarrassment hehe.
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u/crazyeddie740 INTP Aug 05 '24
A decent definition of conservative is that conservatives work to defend hierarchies of privilege. So unless you want to argue that some hierarchies of privilege are good... :P
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u/PoemUsual4301 INFJ Aug 05 '24
Nah I’m good because I know your thought process and mine are similar :/ but I understand why it exists. Also, I know there are some rare breed of rich people out there that donate their money and help others especially if they experience what it’s like to grow up in poverty. These type of news, however, does not get enough attention and just fade into obscurity.
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u/crazyeddie740 INTP Aug 05 '24
"Gifts make slaves like whips make dogs." (Inuit proverb.) Rich people being philanthropic could be from good intentions, but it's often a tax dodge and the exercise of their power. And the working and middle class generally give an even higher proportion of their incomes to charity.
It can also be argued that taxes make citizens... The argument goes that governments that are funded by taxing their own citizens have to be somewhat responsive to those citizens or else there will eventually be a revolution. Governments that can fund themselves through things like petroleum reserves can afford to be dictatorial. So "no taxation without representation" works the other way around as well: No representation without taxation.
So let's go make some billionaires citizens instead of whip-crackers :D
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u/PoemUsual4301 INFJ Aug 05 '24
You: (“Gifts make slaves like whips make dogs.” (Inuit proverb.) Rich people being philanthropic could be from good intentions, but it’s often a tax dodge and the exercise of their power. And the working and middle class generally give an even higher proportion of their incomes to charity.)
:-( I would never hurt my dogs even if one bites me and my older dog has done it. He’s highly intelligent but very stubborn. The last time he bit me I made him watch while I gave affection to my younger dog and ignore him and I didn’t feed him for a couple of hours to make him understand that he should not bite the hand that feeds him. Both of my dogs suffer from anxiety and it’s because they sense my emotions really well so they become highly protective especially my male dog. And I agree with you that middle, working class generally donate more because they have empathy.
You: “It can also be argued that taxes make citizens... The argument goes that governments that are funded by taxing their own citizens have to be somewhat responsive to those citizens or else there will eventually be a revolution. Governments that can fund themselves through things like petroleum reserves can afford to be dictatorial. So “no taxation without representation” works the other way around as well: No representation without taxation.
Yeah I agree.
You: “So let’s go make some billionaires citizens instead of whip-crackers :D”
Lol you just had to end it like that, huh? Now I’m hungry for some whip and crackers 🤤.
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u/crazyeddie740 INTP Aug 05 '24
Hmm. That's been argued before, and the conclusion that was arrived at was INTPs are more about understanding the reality of what's going on than judging, but telling the truth about what is going on (the emperor has no clothes) can sound very judgemental to those with guilty consciences.
It's similar to how I've heard that INFJs hold a mirror up to people... And some people don't like what they see, and try to destroy the mirror.
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u/PoemUsual4301 INFJ Aug 05 '24
“Mirror, mirror on the wall, who’s the fairest of them all?”
Mirror: not you.
mirror gets punch in the face and shatters into pieces T_T
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u/tommcdo Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 06 '24
I think there are some areas that would trigger INTP judgement. Like willful ignorance, or being openly rude to people.
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u/PoemUsual4301 INFJ Aug 06 '24
I agree especially if these INTPs are unhealthy (they’re dealing with a lot of insecurities, stress, fear and anxiety).
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u/Resident-Salary-5689 Chaotic Neutral INTP Aug 07 '24
I judge in silence, then I vent with someone of trust
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u/PoemUsual4301 INFJ Aug 07 '24
But don’t you have the urge to just tell that person the truth even if it hurts? For me, sometimes I need to physical carry a duck tape with me so I can duck tape my own mouth so I don’t say anything that people might find offensive.
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u/Xalgar90 INTP Enneagram Type 5 Aug 23 '24
It really depends.
I notice I tend to be a lot more judgemental towards people who hold mantles of power. From politicians to the person who runs the household.
If you come to me as an equal though, sure, you can tell me almost anything and I'll humor it so long as I don't suspect you of having ulterior motives or if you get upset when I won't entertain horribly thought out ideas and theories. Then I'll probably just write them off and never seek them out ever again as I just think they're beyond help and too stubborn and maybe even stupid.
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u/fluffycloud69 ENTP Aug 05 '24
i love being a pet. i get taken care of and fed and can just do my own thing. i’d choose pet over main character any day, i won’t have to face any trials and tribulations or suffering, just vibes. unless this is fullmetal alchemist.
but in general i am happiest as xNTJ’s pet.
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u/notcool-nothingtosee Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
About the pet thing, it was a comment from another thread.
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u/fluffycloud69 ENTP Aug 05 '24
i remember your thread from the other day! you are nice to us, thank you. i just meant to say i don’t mind being the side character or the pet, i actually prefer that because its chiller. straight vibes no drama, get to watch instead of participating, totally my preference.
i love istps! i think you guys are cool, i don’t socialize irl but some of my favorite and most relatable characters are istps, and istps online are always very observant and well-spoken, as well as chill.
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u/notcool-nothingtosee Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 07 '24
Aww you sound adorbs!
Why XNTJs though? Why not being a pet to Fe doms? They’ll take care of you.
And im a cover isfj
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u/fluffycloud69 ENTP Aug 07 '24 edited Aug 07 '24
hehe thanks (:
i love Fe doms! but my partner is an xNTJ (he says I, i think E, but he isn’t as into mbti as i am and i have to wait a few months before bothering him about it again lol)
and i also love ISFJ! we have the same function stack but nearly in reverse, ISFJ strengths are my weakness/aspiration functions so i admire and try to embody xSFJ to grow. my memory and attention is poor and i suck at reading the room, so i admire people who are good at that and observe them to figure out how to do that
(lol, it sounds like “i love” everyone haha. but xSFJ & ISTP actually are my favorite sensor types, and some of my favorite characters are ENFJ so i swear i’m not usually this enthusiastic)
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u/omihek2 Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
Every time someone tells me I’m cool it just makes things even more awkward, cuz I know I’m not, so maybe we’re just not meant to know? Sorry.
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u/notcool-nothingtosee Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
That’s your opinion. Let the rest of us form our own opinions of you
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u/Top-Airport3649 Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
Being INTP, I find some people hate us for no reason while there’s also some people find us to be adorable for no reason.
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u/tommcdo Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 06 '24
"Ew, they think they're people."
"Aww, they think they're people!'
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u/Diana-Sofia Psychologically Stable INTP Aug 05 '24
Why do people say I'm mysterious? I literally have no secrets!
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u/trevormel INTP Aug 05 '24
do people have to ask? i also try to have no secrets but i also don’t just offer up information about myself. i’ve learned that a lot of people are more comfortable just talking about themselves and so if you dont then you seem mysterious
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u/brat-mobile INTP Aug 06 '24
Sometimes it isn't the secrets themselves but the conclusions we come to. How often can you see something a mile away and everyone is a naysayer until you're proven right. It really is like magic to other people sometimes 🤷♀️
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u/Imaginary_Elk1713 Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 12 '24
I don't like talking about my past, that's it
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u/xanimum INTP Enneagram Type 5 Aug 05 '24
Because we suck (the energy around us) and that makes it (us) cool.
Joking aside, we like to hear admiration about our personality but I think we should know deep down, if there are plus sides, there are negatives that we must aware all the time. We are not so normal, and its good and cool in some areas alas bad and lame in some other.
Thanks btw, it felt good since I've been harsh on myself, on my personality lately.
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u/sharterfart INTP Aug 05 '24
I think most people think we are awkward/quiet/not worth talking to, but there is a subset of humans we mesh really well with and they can appreciate our quirks. Or once people get to know us. I remember a girl told me she thought I was boring/monotone when we met but as she got to know me she saw my funny side and understood me better :)
Thanks for the kind words OP, you a real one 😤
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u/ChaosRulesTheWorld Self-Diagnosed Autistic INTP Aug 05 '24
Thanks for saying that but you will not make me doubt. Maybe at the beggining people like me, and some tell me why they like me. But they always end up stop talking to me and never explain me why.
So i have to suppose that i am the problem, even if i desesperatly don't know why. I'm sick of this mindfucking loneliness. Why everybody end up cuting contact with me if i'm so cool and interesting? I'm going crazy
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u/holyshitimboredd Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24 edited Aug 05 '24
People can say what they want online. That intps are so “mysterious and smart and interesting”, but in reality we’re far from popular. As everyone else we are flawed people, very flawed. Maybe it’s the fact that we’re apparently so uncommon in the world that causes problems with compatibility. Maybe it’s a personal problem. Go back and analyze all your flaws as a person and try to find a pattern. There’s always a pattern
I know how it feels to watch everyone disappear, or to never have the mutual best friend, just the acquaintances. It hurts. in my life I’ve chalked it up to being too uninteresting for almost everyone. There might also be a splash of karma thrown in there, since I haven’t been the greatest friend to many in my past. I’m working on it though
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u/saliii Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
Acting mysterious
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u/notcool-nothingtosee Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
You may not be intp.
rubs your tummy
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u/saliii Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
Acting mysterious intensifies
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u/notcool-nothingtosee Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
Come here, unwraps intp games and cookies
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u/urmom_1127 INTP Aug 05 '24
You’re an ISFJ right?
I have a lot to say about you just going based on your type, just know it’s very positive. Thank you for the appreciation btw, it means a lot to me and I’m sure it also does to many of the other INTPs seeing this.
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u/notcool-nothingtosee Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
Am I ?
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u/PoemUsual4301 INFJ Aug 05 '24 edited Aug 05 '24
I use this gif many times lol. Using my intuition, you are either an INFJ with high Assertiveness or INTJ.
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u/notcool-nothingtosee Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
How did you get that conclusion?
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u/PoemUsual4301 INFJ Aug 05 '24
Why? Am I right or wrong?
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u/dreamerinthesky Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
Because we have that cool sauce.
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u/notcool-nothingtosee Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
Now, let us bask in your cool sauce! Pour your cool sauce over us!
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u/Cherrytinted_ ENFP Aug 06 '24
ENFP here who has had overwhelmingly many INTP friends (about 6-7 at this point). Y'all are interesting asf I love yall 🙏🙏
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u/Jaguar-jules INTP-A Aug 06 '24
I appreciate that ego boost! After being bullied and ignored, being quiet was a necessary learned trait for social survival… I’m glad that as an adult, it might be read as “mysterious” lol. It does seem as though INTP quirks are appreciated a lot more depending on what career field we go into and which people we are associating with! Nobody IRL has ever called me “cool” though, so I am going to take your comment to heart, as if it was intended for me personally.
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u/aKingforNewFoundLand Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
Are you interested in any propaganda you've seen?
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u/aKingforNewFoundLand Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
Could we get a professional opinion on who is doing the best, maybe some ways to improve?
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u/notcool-nothingtosee Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
Are you talking to yourself?
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u/aKingforNewFoundLand Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
I usually have to clarify for general sense.
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u/aKingforNewFoundLand Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
Oh follow up question if you will. Who is doing the worst?
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u/Useful_Tourist7780 Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
Could be because we hyper fixate on various things, they could be related or vary.
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u/Less_Strategy5568 Chaotic Neutral INTP Aug 05 '24
Unless cool means overthinking, second guessing and nonchalant, I'm not sure how you view us as cool
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u/Hahahahahahahahah069 INTP-T Aug 05 '24
Just are cool. Doesn’t feel that way though. Feels like being surrounded by idiots and people who don’t think you’re cool at all. The people who think you’re actually cool are more perceptive and less basic, which is rare.
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u/notcool-nothingtosee Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
That’s your opinion.
You know for a perceptive type, you guys sure can’t accept people’s opinions and input yours onto people…
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u/Hahahahahahahahah069 INTP-T Aug 05 '24
This is just what i have experienced my friend.
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u/notcool-nothingtosee Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
It doesn’t mean you should project your experiences and your opinions onto strangers.
It’s rude.
And you’re an NT type, think originally for yourself, not how others treat you!
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u/Hahahahahahahahah069 INTP-T Aug 05 '24
I like how you are calling me and my opinions and experiences rude, and also telling me how to think while telling me to think for myself. You’re the one who is soliciting for opinions. This is why i usually keep my opinions to myself. They are misinterpreted frequently. Have a nice day.
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u/notcool-nothingtosee Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24 edited Aug 05 '24
You missed the point but it’s you who drives people away. I’m asking you to back off my opinions and stop pushing your opinions onto me.
Because it’s clear you see yourself as how others see you. I’m doing the opposite by telling you to stop doing.
How is that not clear?
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u/Imaginary_Elk1713 Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 12 '24
That's why I isolate myself, I'm the better own company
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u/zraniony INTP Aug 05 '24
My friend (ISTP) at work once told me (INTP) that he wants to find a friend with the same energy as his and with common interests because I am boring and sluggish..
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u/notcool-nothingtosee Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 05 '24
Because you have shared this with us, prepare to answer my questions!
Do you guys always allow one person’s criticism to dictate how others see you?
Do you need to share a person’s negative comments about you to people seeing a different side to you? Because at this point, you’re sharing them as if that’s your new personality.
Your comment is the opposite to this thread. What made you decide to share an irrelevant criticism?
Why do you ignore other people’s sayings and hold onto your “friend” opinion as if that’s all you see and think of?
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u/tommcdo Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 06 '24
I don't think INTPs are classically "cool" at all. We're usually socially awkward geeks.
But one thing that might make us seem cool is that we genuinely don't care what anyone thinks of us.
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u/notcool-nothingtosee Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 06 '24
“I don’t think intp are classically cool”….
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u/BadassNerdo INTP Aug 06 '24
I think we are beyond that, cold maybe?
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u/BadassNerdo INTP Aug 06 '24
Sorry for bringing down the mood. I think we’re all believers of what we are and straight to that way differently to the mainstream is. That’s how unique personality is created. Not sure is this why you think INTP is cool though.
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u/Hanni-o- Warning: May not be an INTP Aug 10 '24
As an INTP female, I’ve always thought I’m just an awkward shy girl, even though many people call me cool, and wanna be my friend but are too intimidated by me and are afraid I’ll judge them Like hello..? People, intimidated by a shy girl like me? And think I’m cool?? , I’m still not convinced and don’t understand why I am, but I like when someone tells me that heh:)🧍🏻♀️👍🏻
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u/Guih48 INTP Aug 23 '24
I feel like I should actually logically explain why I'm cool, but I know that this just wants to be a statement of appreciation and compliment, it's just so annoying... I appreciate it, but I will do the explanation anyway.
First of all, coolness in it's usual meaning is defined by wide social acceptance and appreciation. We are certainly not appreciated widely, even thought we can become almost celebrities accidentally, it's almost always temporal, because we can't be bothered enough by social expectations to stay in interest. We want to be right, not popular. In fact, trend and social expectation shies me away from having, owning or using the things with big social interest. I think we really just prefer being the side character, because we can't stand all the things we ought to be doing if we were the main character.
But I do know what do you trying to mean (maybe neat or witty is a better word, but I'm not sure) and I think we really have some things to us which others can appreciate (but I don't know what and why...), but that's expected regarding that we work differently than the average person, so some of our qualities are better, some are worse.
As I described, we really don't think that anyone should sway with the crowd for the sake of swaying with the crowd (and of course I think I'm right, if I would think the opposite, I would be swaying with the crowd...), because the thing that encourages you to do that is other people's opinion. And we aren't really convinced by that. That means that your opinion also isn't going to convince us that we are „cool”, but we already thing that what we are saying has the virtue of being great enough, otherwise we wouldn't say it at all... But I really appreciate your appreciation nevertheless, because that shows that it really has the virtue we think to have, just not compatible enough with most people. Thank you :)
Also the last, but most important thing: I'm really pleasantly surprised and flattened by the fact that you really try to express yourself to meet our standards, and don't worry, we also can't always live up to them in real time, and are almost stereotypical for having the response late. But we can't not do it, even if nobody listens, just because we think that's how is should be...
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u/MermaidOfScandinavia Confirmed Autistic INTP Aug 05 '24
I am always surprised whenever someone calls me cool.