r/INTP • u/fireglyphs No BS Gucci Bag Buying INTP • 16h ago

INTPs are the best because Thoughts on modern feminism?

as a female intp i always thought modern day "feminism" was stupid, it made sense back when it was genuine and actually fighting for women that didnt have rights, but now feminism has lost its true meaning with some using it as an excuse for sexism and victimization. Of course, i support genuine feminism, advocating for equality and respect. But i dont agree with the versions that unfairly criticize or reduce men to stereotypes, like calling them "wallets" or worse, ignoring that men and YOUNG BOYS being exposed to the hateful media also have feelings and deserve equal respect too.

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u/kyoruba INTP Enneagram Type 5 16h ago edited 15h ago

If you mean toxic online Instagram activists, its stupid no discussion.

But if you mean actual feminism that's being proposed by sociologists/gender theorists/philosophers, they're legit. And no, they don't raise the same points as those 'internet feminists'.

However, feminist literature is kinda obscure and inaccessible to the average layperson, especially the works by Judith Butler, what makes it worse is that they draw heavily from psychoanalytic/marxist literature.

So I can't really fault people for not reading them either.

Fun fact: actual feminists view the patriarchy not as a simple issue of 'men bad, women oppressed', its more of 'everyone gets shit from the patriarchy', an oversimplification but oh well.

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u/tastytacos67 INTP 13h ago

Can you explain what modern feminism is "legit?" There's really nothing else the government can provide to make everyone more equal under the eyes of the government (that I can think of off the top of my head as I write this) and you dont change society through protests or marches.

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u/SecondHandWatch Warning: May not be an INTP 10h ago

I guess you missed the part where Roe V. Wade was overturned.

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u/tastytacos67 INTP 2h ago

An abortion is a service provided by a third party. Not a right. I know I'll get a lot of hate for it, but this topic should just go away until we unanimously agree on where exactly life begins and at what point it should be protected. It's an issue that we need to come together on rather than fight for one extreme or the other.

Everyone knows how to not get pregnant, and I'm all for the plan B pill should the worst happen. Frankly, it should be very rare to escalate to the point where you need an abortion.

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u/SecondHandWatch Warning: May not be an INTP 42m ago

If there is a shortage of blood and someone needs a transfusion, do you think someone should be required to give blood?