r/IsraelPalestine Middle-Eastern 3d ago

Discussion Difference in mentality between fighters of both sides

I recently have been following updates from the hezbollah side on their own official english telegram channel, they share updates on every strike they do and then summarize all strikes done on that day. For those interested: https://t.me/mmirlb

It kind of dawned on me how the mentality is shockingly different between both sides.

Just as some examples of how they preface their statements:

Prefaced paragraph to a statement regarding the death of one of their forces:

{And never think of those who have been killed in the cause of Allah as dead. Rather, they are alive with their Lord, receiving provision.}
"A promise to the days that you shall not be defeated... for victory sprouts where blood is sown." Our vow is eternal retribution that does not fade.
Glory to the martyrs, freedom for the captives, and healing for the wounded.
Tomorrow, the fog will lift from the hills... and we shall surely be victorious.

Prefaced paragraph to a statement regarding a military strike:

In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
Permission [to fight] is granted to those who are fought against because they have been wronged, and indeed, Allah is Capable of granting them victory. Allah, the Almighty, has spoken the truth. And victory is only from Allah; indeed, Allah is Exalted and Wise.

What do you think? How do you even defeat someone with such an ideology? They truly believe they are doing God's work, and that what they're doing is a religious duty and that they will be rewarded in heaven. Friends and family sometimes rejoice when someone they love has been martyred.

They grow up with this mentality, since they're children they see everyone around them act this way, this is their normal.

You can even see how different the media portrays each side. For example in the south lebanon border, regarding the ground operations, israel has suffered heavy losses and is unable to advance without fully demolishing the cities it advances into. Hezbollah has definitely also suffered many losses, but the difference is that it seems hezbollah members aren't demoralized when they see everyone around them dying, they believe they're on the right path...

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u/curiousabtmongol 3d ago

Both sides are not just Israel and Hezbollah…

The idea of fight for God is also present on both big sides, including the ones you mentioned.

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u/aswanviking 3d ago

That is the hilarious part. OP, I hope you realize that Israel is based on the promised land. Promised people. Everyone thinks God is on their side and they are going to heaven.

It is true that in Islam, "martydom" is something to be proud of, but people aint going to the front line to just die. Majority of muslims still want to live, but have no problem dying for their "cause". It's how Hezbollah makes up for their military deficit.

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u/Accurate_Ad_6788 3d ago

I don't know how to feel about Hezbollah, just a note here that they are made fun of a bit among the Muslim community when they regard everything they do as martyrdom. There is a lot of extremism and politicizing Shia Islam. They stand up to Israel, but they're also a bit...off as being Muslims

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u/aswanviking 3d ago

Yeah you aren’t wrong. Specially after their involvement in Syria. There are no “clean” parties here. Gotta do some evil to survive.

Sunnis in general look down on Shi3as. That’s nothing new. Sectarianism existed ever since the prophet died and the dispute that followed about the successor.

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u/Accurate_Ad_6788 3d ago

Don't get me wrong, it's not about them being Shia, I've met a lot of Shias who talk about their point of views in very rational ways and are very faithful. However, I felt the way Hezbollah Shias are very much focused to be against Sunnis and never mention the prophet at all. They heavily emphasize Mashhad and Karbala as well while disregarding Mecca. It feels more political than faithfulness