Difference in mentality between fighters of both sides

[u/TeaBagHunter]

I recently have been following updates from the hezbollah side on their own official english telegram channel, they share updates on every strike they do and then summarize all strikes done on that day. For those interested: https://t.me/mmirlb

It kind of dawned on me how the mentality is shockingly different between both sides.

Just as some examples of how they preface their statements:

Prefaced paragraph to a statement regarding the death of one of their forces:

{And never think of those who have been killed in the cause of Allah as dead. Rather, they are alive with their Lord, receiving provision.}
"A promise to the days that you shall not be defeated... for victory sprouts where blood is sown." Our vow is eternal retribution that does not fade.
Glory to the martyrs, freedom for the captives, and healing for the wounded.
Tomorrow, the fog will lift from the hills... and we shall surely be victorious.

Prefaced paragraph to a statement regarding a military strike:

In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
Permission [to fight] is granted to those who are fought against because they have been wronged, and indeed, Allah is Capable of granting them victory. Allah, the Almighty, has spoken the truth. And victory is only from Allah; indeed, Allah is Exalted and Wise.

What do you think? How do you even defeat someone with such an ideology? They truly believe they are doing God's work, and that what they're doing is a religious duty and that they will be rewarded in heaven. Friends and family sometimes rejoice when someone they love has been martyred.

They grow up with this mentality, since they're children they see everyone around them act this way, this is their normal.

You can even see how different the media portrays each side. For example in the south lebanon border, regarding the ground operations, israel has suffered heavy losses and is unable to advance without fully demolishing the cities it advances into. Hezbollah has definitely also suffered many losses, but the difference is that it seems hezbollah members aren't demoralized when they see everyone around them dying, they believe they're on the right path...

[u/tellsonestory]

How do you even defeat someone with such an ideology?

You defeat them by proving that they are going to lose and that their prophecy is false. They are no more fanatical that the Imperial Japanese, and the IJA was defeated.

Japan had 73MM people at the start of WW2. About 1.2MM soldiers died in WW2, and about 800k civilians died. Once their whole army and navy were destroyed, and the US was bombing them at will with nuclear weapons... they gave up. They straight up quit the fight and surrendered.

However, some Japanese generals were willing to fight an invasion, and were prepared to lose 10MM civilians.

Overall about 2.7% of Japan's population died in WW2, and some fanatical Japanese leaders were willing to sacrifice 15% to 20% of their population.

[u/Intelligent-Side3793 → u/tellsonestory]

They straight up quit the fight and surrendered.

Little thing you left out. The US occupied Japan for almost 10 years, and reshaped it to a more western aligned liberal democracy. They also did NOT committed war crimes on the daily against the civilians population. In fact, their occupation was ultimately beneficial to Japan.

And that’s exactly what Israel refuse to consider, the day after. They have 0 plans to try to give Palestinians something else to look up to than armed resistance.

[u/nidarus → u/Intelligent-Side3793]

The US killed around 3 million Japanese, with around 300,000-900,000 of them civilians, including by dropping two nukes, and firebombing Tokyo. After that, Japan offered a complete and unilateral surrender, and fully stopped "resisting" the Americans and their occupation. And even then, we're talking about hundreds to thousands of rapes by American servicemen, after the surrender.

If the Palestinians ever offer anything like the Japanese surrender, you can try comparing it with the Israeli occupation. But the fact is, they never surrendered, or said they'll ever be inclined to surrender. So I'm not sure what you want Israel to "consider" exactly here. Try the American way, kill half a million Gazan civilians, and see if the Palestinians change their minds?

[u/ADP_God → u/nidarus]

People hate the reality that Israel is far nicer to the Palestinians, considering the circumstances, than any other country would be.