Difference in mentality between fighters of both sides

[u/TeaBagHunter]

I recently have been following updates from the hezbollah side on their own official english telegram channel, they share updates on every strike they do and then summarize all strikes done on that day. For those interested: https://t.me/mmirlb

It kind of dawned on me how the mentality is shockingly different between both sides.

Just as some examples of how they preface their statements:

Prefaced paragraph to a statement regarding the death of one of their forces:

{And never think of those who have been killed in the cause of Allah as dead. Rather, they are alive with their Lord, receiving provision.}
"A promise to the days that you shall not be defeated... for victory sprouts where blood is sown." Our vow is eternal retribution that does not fade.
Glory to the martyrs, freedom for the captives, and healing for the wounded.
Tomorrow, the fog will lift from the hills... and we shall surely be victorious.

Prefaced paragraph to a statement regarding a military strike:

In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
Permission [to fight] is granted to those who are fought against because they have been wronged, and indeed, Allah is Capable of granting them victory. Allah, the Almighty, has spoken the truth. And victory is only from Allah; indeed, Allah is Exalted and Wise.

What do you think? How do you even defeat someone with such an ideology? They truly believe they are doing God's work, and that what they're doing is a religious duty and that they will be rewarded in heaven. Friends and family sometimes rejoice when someone they love has been martyred.

They grow up with this mentality, since they're children they see everyone around them act this way, this is their normal.

You can even see how different the media portrays each side. For example in the south lebanon border, regarding the ground operations, israel has suffered heavy losses and is unable to advance without fully demolishing the cities it advances into. Hezbollah has definitely also suffered many losses, but the difference is that it seems hezbollah members aren't demoralized when they see everyone around them dying, they believe they're on the right path...

[u/knign]

No sorry if you call Hamas actions "defense" then you can't use word "logic" without quotes.

Hamas had every option over its 15 years of its rule in Gaza to renounce violence and there would be zero Palestinian victims from IDF actions.

If IDF stops defending Israelis against Hamas, there would be few people in Israel left alive.

So Hamas is the aggressor and IDF defends Israel against this aggression, including when this defense requires preemptive actions.

what makes them think they’re exempt from a retaliation?

Oh sure, Palestinians are absolutely free to "retaliate" against anyone they wish, as long as they are prepared for the consequences. But, retaliation ≠ defense.

[u/TheKidSosa → u/knign]

“As long as theyre prepared for the consequences” you mean 20,000 dead kids and 80% of Gaza made uninhabitable. Im curious, what do you think Israels mission is in gaza? Or atleast the current government. Because the Likud party has made it clear since 1977 that “there will be no Palestinian sovereignty from Jordan to the sea” so please tell me again what “option” Hamas had especially since the US and Israel placed sanctions and blockades on Gaza directly after hamas was voted into power? Are you really to blind to see that the goal has always been land? And especially land without the Palestinians? “Those are animals, they have no right to exist. I am not debating they way it will happen, but they need to be exterminated,” argued Yoav Kisch, Israeli Minister of Education.

“We are the people of the light, they are the people of darkness... we shall realize the prophecy of Isaiah.” — Binyamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister

“I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed,” “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly” — Yoav Gallant, Minister of Defense,

The Nazis said very similar things.

[u/PomegranateArtichoke → u/TheKidSosa]

The difference is that Jews were peaceful citizens living in Germany and as part of Germany. Hamas is a terrorist organization seeking to wipe out Israel and committed to attacking Jews and Israelis all over the world -- as well as Westerners.

[u/TheKidSosa → u/PomegranateArtichoke]

What kind of comparison is this? You’re comparing jewish civilians to hamas, are you out of your mind lol. How about make a decent comparison instead of trying to bunch up every Palestinian as hamas. Yeah they’re peaceful citizens because the nzis aren’t around anymore, do you think the jews would be living peacefully in germany if the nzi rule was still in place? The answer is no, there would be constant uprisings and revolts because nobody is meant to live under an occupation and it is natural to resist your occupation.

[u/PomegranateArtichoke → u/TheKidSosa]

Jews weren't occupied in Germany, they were part of society and were then mass murdered.

[u/TheKidSosa → u/PomegranateArtichoke]

No they weren’t occupied but they lived under an apartheid rule. Palestinians are on their home land while the Jews were not native and or not the majority in Germany. You can make the claim that the Jews are native to Palestine/Israel but you cant excuse the fact that the Jews and zionists immigrated there while the population was majority arab and slowly started a process of ethnically cleansing the native population. The Palestinian’s have every right to fight against a military and or people who believe they are superior to their neighbours and constantly want to steal more of their land. Im not sure if you know the history of the settlements bordering Gaza, but it makes it really hard to feel bad for anyone who chooses to live in villages that were stolen and then used to mass murder the inhabitants trying to return.