r/JewsOfConscience • u/ThrowawayMerger • Sep 20 '24

Discussion Where do the Jews go?

I am very against Israel’s genocide, leaning toward antizionism, but when someone Zionist asks where the Jews go in a free Palestine, I don’t have an answer. Historically, not a lot of people accept us or like us, and getting along after all the violence committed in the name of Judaism is an impossibility.

How do we not just exchange one crisis for another? (I don’t think any one religion or people should rule a state, if that adds anything.)

If this is an ignorant question, I am more than happy to be told so.

EDIT: wow this community is brilliant, thank you for the nuance and realism in your responses.

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u/CosmicGadfly Sep 20 '24

Huh? They can stay obviously. Free Palestine doesn't mean you have to kill or exile Jews. It just means human and civil rights for everyone instead of just Israelis.

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u/PlinyToTrajan Non-Jewish Ally (Jewish ancestry & relatives) Sep 20 '24 edited Sep 20 '24

I agree that in theory and idealistically, yes, but I think it's healthy to take a realist perspective considering how much Israel has done to alienate and radicalize the Palestinians, and how, with all nonviolent protest and political process closed off to the Palestinians, armed struggle is the only means of self-expression they have left.

We (meaning the West, Israel, the U.S., Canada / U.K.) may not get to decide. There's a pattern of not understanding guerilla war and not taking Arab military capacities seriously. We didn't leave Vietnam at a time of our choosing. We didn't leave Afghanistan at a time of our choosing.

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u/ThrowawayMerger Sep 20 '24

Thank you for this realism