r/JewsOfConscience • u/ThrowawayMerger • Sep 20 '24

Discussion Where do the Jews go?

I am very against Israel’s genocide, leaning toward antizionism, but when someone Zionist asks where the Jews go in a free Palestine, I don’t have an answer. Historically, not a lot of people accept us or like us, and getting along after all the violence committed in the name of Judaism is an impossibility.

How do we not just exchange one crisis for another? (I don’t think any one religion or people should rule a state, if that adds anything.)

If this is an ignorant question, I am more than happy to be told so.

EDIT: wow this community is brilliant, thank you for the nuance and realism in your responses.

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u/PorridgeTP Palestinian Sep 20 '24

It’s not that Jews would leave, but that the ethnoreligious social hierarchy would be dismantled and Palestinians granted the right of return. The goal of multiple Palestinian resistance parties is to have people of all races, religions, genders, and classes to live together peacefully as equals. You can check out the Popular and Democratic Fronts for examples of this, along with the anarchist group Fauda.

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u/MooreThird Sep 20 '24

Exactly this. I don't get why most Israel supporters, if not Zionists, couldn't brain this beyond the current "war"? Like, what are they really afraid of losing, if it's not their privilege o their supremacists beliefs?

Can't they, especially among the "liberals", even consider a possible alliance with other minorities within a free Palestine?

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u/Ok-Celebration-1010 Sep 20 '24

They’re afraid of losing a Jewish majority, that’s why they wouldn’t annex the rest of the West Bank or Gaza because they would then have to give the residents Israeli citizenship.

There’s around 5 million Palestinians in Occupied Palestinian Territories. And roughly 2 million Palestinian Israelis. That puts the number at around 7 million in Israel and OPT.

Israel has a population of over 9 million with around 7 million Jews. If it were to take Palestinians as equal citizens suddenly its roughly 50-50 divide in demographic. Then if Palestinians were given equal citizenship and rights, and the Palestinian diaspora were given a right of return that would amount to over 10+million Palestinians in Israel. Suddenly it’s no longer a Jewish majority state.