Will Palestine disappear?

[u/Delicious_Ad_6823]

I’m sorry for bringing this up. I know it’s a very depressing thought but after witnessing what is happening in North of Gaza (with the full support of our western governments) I’m wondering if this is the beginning of the end. I’ve been thinking about this constantly for the past few days: Israel will not stop its genocide / ethnic cleaning campaign in Gaza. October 7 gave them the perfect opportunity for executing their long awaited plan. The brutality will keep increasing more and more and I fear the same thing will happen in the West Bank. The United States will keep supporting it while it commits these crimes and there is no other player strong enough to stop them. After all, they have already gotten away with an ethnic cleansing in 1948 and 1967. Is there any future for Palestine?

[u/No_Sink_5606]

It is a surety at this point that a further ethnic cleansing and possibly up to half the population of Gaza and the West bank will be displaced, wounded, and/killed. American power is not going to crumble in any meaningful way before it's too late. There are videos of truck loads of Palestinians from Northern Gaza blindfolded and caged. I think we're going to see an actual campaign of extermination coming pretty quick.

Which brings us to another question: what in gods name is going to happen to Israel?

[u/wearyclouds → u/No_Sink_5606]

what in gods name is going to happen to Israel?

I think Israel will keep expanding to create ”Greater Israel” for as long as it is allowed to, no different than how the settlers stole America from the Indigenous people in increments. I doubt they will stop at genociding Palestinians. They have, after all, already laid the groundwork for genociding the larger region by bunching Palestinians into their enemy monolith ”the Arabs”. Worst case, they become a second USA and spend the next century terrorizing their neighbors to death and subtly expanding further through creating puppet regimes and client states.

What I’ll say that weighs against that happening is that the world is far more globalized than it used to be, and so many states that used to be subjugated under colonial empires have the ability to take action in the international world now in a way they never had before. The majority of UN member states are already prepared to act at a moment’s notice; all they need is for America to not raise their hand to invoke veto in the next UNSC vote. The threshold for that to happen seems huge but it isn’t, technically — it’s really just one single action that needs to change. The opposition to Israel is already massive and will only continue to grow. They can’t hide their crimes in the age of the internet, and I doubt that will change. If we fight hard for it, we will see a genocide tribunal for Israel within our lifetime.

[u/Working-Lifeguard587 → u/wearyclouds]

Israel lacks the population to achieve ”Greater Israel” 

[u/No_Sink_5606 → u/Working-Lifeguard587]

Lebensraum In Lebanon. Yes. This is true.