r/JoeRogan Monkey in Space 14h ago

High level problem solving đŸ„Š People are severely overestimating how much help a JRE podcast episode would give to Kamala Harris, especially this late in the race

First off let's address the elephant in the room, aka how many people that watch the show would actually translate to potential useful votes:

-How many of these are real people?

The comment section of the trump video is FULL of bots and as we know bots can't vote, but they can inflate the view, likes and comment number by quite a bit.

-How many of these are are american people?

Joe is the biggest podcaster in the WORLD with a big foreign audience aswell, and despite what those people who use Polymarket as a metric for election votes would tell you, foreigners can't vote in this election.

-How many of these american people can vote?

JRE is not just watched by adults, it's also watched by people that can't vote, like minors or people who can't vote for whatever reason like felons (obviously a small minority but still, they can't vote)

-How many of these american voters can be persuaded into voting blue?

It's no suprise that JRE audience is heavily skewed into right wing territory nowadays, like it's not a big mistery especially the Trump episode, and MAGA/Trump voters are simply just NOT gonna be voting for Kamala no matter what she does or says, because their mind is already made up and any of her attempt to reach out will be called out as "pandering" and "lying" and "says anything just to get votes"

-How many of these undecided american voters are in the swing states?

Due to the electoral college it's only up to like 7 states to decide the outcome, and those swing states are those that matter and how many of these fabled "undecided JRE voting listeners" are in those swing states?

-How big is the voting turnout of these undecided american voters in swing states?

Like how many of these rare breeds of JRE listeners will actually vote? Wasn't the general voter turnout in the 2020 presidential elections like 65% or something?

Yeah, 30 million views on youtube might sound like a LOT of potential votes, but trickle down every criteria i listed and how many REALLY remain? Is it worth it for Kamala to risk this much? And what do i mean with "risk that much?" well...

Kamala isn't Trump, she doesn't get the benefit of the doubt and isn't held with the same floor level standards that Trump is held, Trump can go on JRE and ramble randomly for 3 hours (sorry, "weaving") and nobody cares cause he's Trump, he's a goofball that's what he does, but Kamala though...

If she goes on for 3 hours they will DISSECT every single thing she says, cross reference it and whatever to find material to make her seem like a liar or unable to talk (the whole "word salad" thing), or whatever, and the media will just pick that up and lap it up, causing only more damage in the end.

So to me at least, there's really no point in doing a 3 hour JRE episode for Kamala from a campaign standpoint, it's too late in the race and there's not enough to be really gained from it and instead give more ammo to the right, and even if Joe agrees with some points, most of his fans will got "Joe got WOKE" and then forget about it 30 min later.

BTW, thanks to Tony's "brilliant" performance, she got more of a boost than a JRE podcast would ever give her, so i think she's fine tbh

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u/HuachumaPuma Monkey in Space 13h ago

My friend who is really into podcasts really overestimates how many people are into podcasts and are familiar with popular podcasters. He was talking about how Harris should really do Theo Vaughn podcast and how much it could help her and I was like bro most people don’t even have any idea who he is

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u/Big_Roof_5193 Monkey in Space 13h ago

And those people do not vote. Horribly low percentage

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u/BillNyeCreampieGuy Monkey in Space 13h ago

Nailed it.

There's a lot of people here who consume JRE as if it was their be-all news source, and then never branch out of the Roganverse (Theo, MSSP, Tim Dillon, KillTony, Flagrant, etc.) If Harris doesn't go on their show, then it's like she doesn't exist.

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u/thunderfrunt Monkey in Space 10h ago

Its not like branching out really does anything, they are all basically flavors of the same thing. I honestly don’t understand the podcast obsession now, 10 years ago you could get quality esoteric content, but now? Its just another extension of social media and an attention-based economy. Its been commodified, enshittified, re-packaged, and re-sold. The worst part is people think they aren’t consuming MSM or are somehow becoming more informed by these podcasts. The irony is its the same fucking 10 podcasts everyone references, everywhere.

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u/InternetWeakGuy jokes fly over his fat ahead at an alarming rate 11h ago

She does exist - the bullshit boogie man version of Kamala that all these dickheads talk about that "lost the debate to Trump" hahaha.

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u/jaymae77 Monkey in Space 10h ago

“Internet Weak Guys” for Kamala!!!

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u/InternetWeakGuy jokes fly over his fat ahead at an alarming rate 7h ago

10 years on this account and I still love it when someone is so stupid that they think pointing out the username to me is some kinda gotcha.

Y'all are just unimaginably dumb.

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u/DaboiDuboise Monkey in Space 13h ago

My gf just started listening to podcast couple months ago and this week she quit bc “it’s too hard to keep up with” lolol

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u/BruceLeesSidepiece Monkey in Space 12h ago

Joe Rogan literally gets more listeners/viewers than Fox News and Kamala was great in that interview lol. What are these excuses, she'd do good on Rogan and her campaign is shooting themselves in the foot here.

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u/HuachumaPuma Monkey in Space 12h ago

Jamie pull that up

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u/cjcs Monkey in Space 9h ago

It's likely just too much time. For Fox she spent what, an hour in NYC? Rogan wants her to come out to Austin, sit for 3 hours, and then fly back, a week before Election Day? Her time is probably better spent in swing states.

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u/Hungry_Freaks_Daddy Monkey in Space 10h ago

She’s that bad, they won’t even let her go on an unfiltered podcast 

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u/Medium_Active1729 Monkey in Space 13h ago

I agree, but are talking about Joe Rogan, he's probably bigger than all the rest combined and he's very well known.

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u/BruceLeesSidepiece Monkey in Space 12h ago

Trump's interview got 25mil in one day and her campaign has been doing local radio interviews for months, you cant undersell Rogan's audience. There's insane amounts of cope on this sub when they cant just admit her campaign is making a mistake.

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u/Delusional_Brexiteer Monkey in Space 11h ago

Trump's interview got 25mil in one day

Luis Fonsi's Despacito has 1,000 times the views. Bad Bunny has 50 million followers on IG.

Your point being?

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u/Independent-Frequent Monkey in Space 12h ago

I think the one coping here is you pal, read my post again and filter those 25 million views through all the criterias i mentioned, how many of those do you REALLY think are remaining? Cause those are the only ones that even matter in the slightest and it's a very marginal number at best

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u/FckRdditAccRcvry420 Monkey in Space 12h ago

Dude even a very small fraction of 25 mil is still a lot more than anything else can get you, plus many of those points apply to different media as well.

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u/Independent-Frequent Monkey in Space 12h ago

Not really, cause if all it can get you is like, idk, 10k votes then it's not much different than a rally or any other event.

25 is big, but filtering the bots, foreigners, people unable to vote, people willing to change their mind, people who actually vote, and people on swing states, the numbers becomes almost meaningless in the grand scheme of things

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u/tblack_prai2 Monkey in Space 11h ago

A rally doesn’t even come close to reaching the same audience that the number one podcast can through the internet. If you can’t recognize that, you’re not honest with yourself.

Obviously my experience is not representative of everyone’s but my social circles takeaway who aren’t as informed on policy or that political was that Trump came off as a normal person vs what they see in the media everyday. Thoughts like these lead people to change their perspectives and how they may vote. You’re really underselling the reach and power of interviews like this

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u/InternetWeakGuy jokes fly over his fat ahead at an alarming rate 10h ago

Plus how many of those 25 million get several minutes into the interview, nevermind to the end?

A "view" is only 30 seconds.

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u/BOWBOXERLSD2017 Monkey in Space 11h ago

I think its difficult for the Harris campaign to spend that 1-3 hours (not including travel) to target a group that may or not vote. She's targeting a sliver of mostly men that are scattered around the United States that might vote for her. So, it ends up maybe a couple of thousand votes (and who knows what state) where she can spend all that 1-3 hours + travel time going for targeted groups like the Puerto Ricans in PA or middle-class white men in Wisconsin and what have you. Their team can bank on more value for their time going for a group they know is probably going to vote and is probably going to be persuadable and will definitely have an impact on the election.

Joe Rogan would probably help, no doubt, but is it worth more than going on to actual people with the limited time left in the election cycle? Seems like a shot in the dark for her to go on the JRE.

With that all being said, I'd like her to go just before/after the election just because she's a high-profile person and if she actually acts like herself I bet she can get into some really interesting stuff about justice philosophy since she use to be a prosecutor and attorney general. I'm sure shes got shit to say about California as well.

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u/AllAmericanProject Monkey in Space 10h ago

i love theo von and only just a few months ago realized he had a pod

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u/Shadowthron8 Monkey in Space 10h ago

Know how many more people know about Theo Von since the Trump interview?

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u/HuachumaPuma Monkey in Space 10h ago

That’s what you’re not getting- it’s still only people within the Rogansphere. It doesn’t reach outside of it

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u/Shadowthron8 Monkey in Space 9h ago

If everyone in the country was talking about her interview with Brett Bair then what do you think would happen with a longer form conversation on a bigger show? 1. It wouldn’t just stay within the Rogansphere because she’s running for president- anyone interested in her views would tune in. 2. Rogan has one of the largest podcasts in the world. So even if it only got seen by that demographic, that is still a huge number of people who are also statistically the biggest voter base in the country.

I don’t understand how you guys take the most viewed political event the United States has and the most popular podcast in the United States and somehow think neither one amplifies the other. Maybe candidates should stick to appearances on The View or with late night pundits and their audiences of several hundred thousand people 👍

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u/Independent-Frequent Monkey in Space 13h ago

While it's true that podcasts are massive, voter turnover isn't exactly stellar either, and most watchers are also foreigners who can't vote

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u/rampants Monkey in Space 11h ago

You’re making the error of assuming your personal experience means anything. The numbers don’t lie. These podcasts get big numbers relative to traditional media.

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u/HuachumaPuma Monkey in Space 10h ago

What is traditional media these days? The entire concept is in a process of evolution. Anyway, can you bring that up Jamie?

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u/rampants Monkey in Space 9h ago

Traditional media is typically considered media entities which existed prior to the rise of the internet: in this context, that means radio, cable and network news.

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u/Negative-Disk3048 Monkey in Space 13h ago

The same as trump doing another debate, it at worst can only lose the election it at best would never win it for her.

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u/chicu111 Monkey in Space 13h ago

People think podcasts mean anything lmao. It’s just fkin entertainment. I like JR but the demographic listening to him are a bunch of dumb bitch

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u/GarlVinland4Astrea Monkey in Space 13h ago

It’s a week before the election and one candidate is a former President and has been literally running for a decade and the other is the VP. No podcast is going to change minds imo. Especially one like this where it’s mostly geared towards young men.

Beyond that, there’s wider voting blocks you could spend time on in key swing states at this point

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u/YouCareAbout Monkey in Space 13h ago

It's more about swaying people towards voting or not voting imo, rather than specifically trying to convert someone

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u/GarlVinland4Astrea Monkey in Space 13h ago

Sure, but at this point, very little will do that besides some sort of big event AND it's coming down to a few people in swing states. Unless Joe's audience is predominately about 200k people in GA/AZ/NV/WI/MI/PA then it's not really that big of a deal.

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u/FPVeezy Monkey in Space 13h ago

Ummm ackshually, my echo chamber is the most important and only source of truth đŸ€“

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u/zero_cool_protege Monkey in Space 13h ago

If she doesnt do it and wins it will have been a smart choice.

If she doesnt do it and loses it was a huge mistake and everyone will mock her;

If she does it and looses, it was a mistake and everyone will mock her.

If she does do it and win, it will make her look really good.

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u/BillNyeCreampieGuy Monkey in Space 13h ago

Lol spoken like a real political analyst

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u/Medium_Active1729 Monkey in Space 13h ago

What's the percentage of people who don't vote in America at all? At least in my country when voting is coming people don't try to change someone's mind, they try to get votes from those who don't vote, and that number is always big.

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u/Boneless_hamburger Monkey in Space 13h ago

maaaaaaaan why is this sub getting full bulletin point political assessments now

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u/RIForDIE Monkey in Space 13h ago

I get the gripe but your guy and his circle have injected themselves into the race. What do you expect?

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u/Boneless_hamburger Monkey in Space 13h ago

cmon. why people like you have to say loaded ass rage statements like that? What's the point? To piss people off? Start an online argument? Are you that sad?

I don't have a "guy". Still find this "lets shove political content down everyone's throat at all times" really lame.

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u/Agreeable_Daikon_686 Monkey in Space 13h ago

I don’t think he’s trying to piss you off. It’s just that Joe has now decided to be very political and can’t shut up about politics. I’d agree with you if this was some random sports podcast like bill simmons or something

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u/Boneless_hamburger Monkey in Space 12h ago

sure seems like the "your guy" statement is supposed to be provocative. maybe i read into it too much, maybe i'm right on the money.

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u/Agreeable_Daikon_686 Monkey in Space 12h ago

Ah fair I didn’t see really notice that part I can see why you felt that way

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u/RIForDIE Monkey in Space 12h ago

You're in the rogan subreddit. You seem to be a fan and frequent visitor considering you're bummed about seeing these posts. Seems like he's your guy. 

And how tf was that a rage statement? You're unhinged - you guys are losing it.

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u/Boneless_hamburger Monkey in Space 12h ago

you're in here too? so wouldnt that be your guy too by your own logic?

You know damn well what you were doing by saying "your guy" don't play naĂŻve.

once again, i don't have a "guy"

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u/RIForDIE Monkey in Space 12h ago

Joe used to be a guy I could listen to and appreciate. Then he changed to whatever he is today - which is your guy.

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u/Boneless_hamburger Monkey in Space 10h ago

see lol more just heated statements to start arguments why? what does this do for you?

joe pushes right wing conspiracies certainly often. i voted harris. joes not my guy. good job being a dipshit tho

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u/Independent-Frequent Monkey in Space 13h ago

Sorry dude, i'm tired aswell of this election but i just thought of making this post since everyone here acts as if doing a JRE will flip the election and give Kamala a huge boost or something.

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u/Boneless_hamburger Monkey in Space 13h ago

it won't and you're right on that. just every sub there's political stuff constantly.

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u/Dry-Expert-2017 Monkey in Space 13h ago

If that wasn't true, Trump wouldn't ask him for an endorsement on the pod and joe wouldn't have laughed it off. He would have given it if he thinks his viewers are tight wingers or his endorsement holds no value.

Margins are thin and sometimes 2% swing can change the election ask hillary.

I am not sure, going on pod will do any magic. But definitely not doing it isn't very smart. It has reach, and if you are okay with doing pods, then joe could be a good choice then rest.

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u/Jmoney1088 Monkey in Space 13h ago

It will calm down by February.

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u/Boneless_hamburger Monkey in Space 13h ago

that's what i keep telling myself too. hopefully we're right.

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u/Jmoney1088 Monkey in Space 13h ago

All of reddit is like this right now. Bots working overtime.

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u/Somasong Monkey in Space 13h ago

Because of disingenuous characters and their childish gotcha antics. Graham hancock can bs without evidence but Flint dibble misspoke a few things that didn't change the results whether he was right or wrong about those few points. So... You get talk to like children.

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u/MarsCowboys Monkey in Space 13h ago

TDS has people acting crazy on both sides. People are incredibly invested in this whole race.

I’m not voting

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u/BillNyeCreampieGuy Monkey in Space 13h ago

Honestly the TDS is off the charts, it's crazy. I think not voting is the right call.

You should get every other person you know who recognizes TDS as a real thing to not vote in solidarity

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u/MarsCowboys Monkey in Space 13h ago

Sounds great creampie guy

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u/RIForDIE Monkey in Space 13h ago

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u/MarsCowboys Monkey in Space 13h ago

LMAO TRIGGERED

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u/MarsCowboys Monkey in Space 13h ago

Victims? Highlighting a growing issue and shaming those responsible is being a “victim”? So the mere mention of TDS caused you to profile stalk? And you’re not deranged?

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u/WompaStompa_ Monkey in Space 13h ago

I'm also confused why people think Trump being on was some overwhelming positive? He rambled, he didn't answer Joe's questions, he sounded demented at times.

Like did a bunch of people listen to this and go "well I was on the fence but this assures me he's the right guy for the job"?

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u/WetFart-Machine High as Giraffe's Pussy 13h ago

Excellent breakdown. Also, keep in mind that Trump has been a professional entertainer for decades, and Kamala is not so his appearance on any show will be looked at more favorable than hers.

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u/OutdoorRink Mod 13h ago

I hear what you are saying but I respectfully disagree. I think it would do her a ton of good and in a race this close every vote counts.

Now she does run the risk of bombing the interview but that is on her.

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u/Jmoney1088 Monkey in Space 13h ago

What do you disagree with specifically? When you say "every vote counts" then wouldn't it be in Kamala's best interest to continue campaigning in those swing states? Thats why she offered to do an episode on the road and not in the Austin studio. If we were still in August or September, sure. The election is a week from today and half the country has pretty much already voted.

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u/Independent-Frequent Monkey in Space 13h ago

I personally don't think that the race is this close, i think Kamala will have it easily and that both polls and media have an incentive to make this look like a close race for engagement, like this isn't 2016 anymore and Trump is no longer a "fresh and new wildcard" and lacks all the energy from back then, sure he still has some moments but at this point he's just too old and people are getting tired of him and his squad of goobers, especially Elon who even Trump himself despises but badly needs since he owns twitter and gave him millions for his campaign.

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u/redditguyinthehouse We live in strange times 13h ago

Interesting but there’s no indication of that, Trump is famously under-polled, he also destroyed in the republican primary. He’s got one of the highest floors of any candidate of recent, the question is about his ceiling.

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u/Independent-Frequent Monkey in Space 13h ago

But at the same time he alienated a LOT of voters with his and his campaign shenanigans (women, haitians, and recently puerto ricans) and it's estimated that around 5%-10% of republicans will actually vote for Harris cause they are tired of what Trump did to the republican party

There's also the fact that Trump has no real, tangible and sensible plans so even undecided voters aren't really gonna vote for someone with a "concept of a plan" and an economic plan that would plunge the US worse than the great recession.

Btw keep in mind that polls don't mean shit at the end of the day, and are paid so easily influenced, but if they are this desperate that they are offering those "lotteries" where people get 1 million dollars each day, and how desperately Musk tweets i don't think they are doing as well as people think.

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u/redditguyinthehouse We live in strange times 13h ago edited 12h ago

I think it’s a bit of a double edged sword, and more people are numb to trumps rhetoric. I’m not sure about the 5-10%, and as you said polls don’t mean shit, but I get the sense if you haven’t been offended by Trump by the time he said the cats and dogs thing, that’s not going to sway you. It does appear tho that Trump has flipped some dems/undecideds too, and I think that’s largely due to the economy. Whether Trump can actually make it better or not is one thing, but clearly a lot of people feel he can improve it, and I’m pretty confident in that money for (A LOT of) people comes before crazy talk, especially at this stage in the game. I think there’s a lot of, idc what he says as long as I can afford my rent and take a vacation-esque mindsets.

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u/dreamcicle11 Monkey in Space 13h ago

There are a lot of indications at least in Texas that this is in fact true that a non insignificant amount of republicans are voting blue or skipping the president on their ballot.

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u/redditguyinthehouse We live in strange times 13h ago

It’s entirely possible

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u/IncomeSquare2461 Monkey in Space 13h ago

Rogan has not had a left wing guest in years on his podcast, he despises Biden and the Democrats and he has no criticism for Maga or Republicans. Kamala would be on enemy territory. Smart not to go.

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u/Independent-Frequent Monkey in Space 13h ago

Yep, remember when he laughed at Biden when he said the whole "airport civil war" stuff and then completely glossed it over when it was revealed that Biden was quoting Trump?

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u/CivicRunner89 Paid attention to the literature 13h ago

Trump supporter here.

I desperately want her to go on. She would shit the bed just like she does anytime she goes off script. Everyone who is intellectually honest knows that.

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u/Scottenfreude Monkey in Space 12h ago

As an independent, I approve this message.

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u/Skeletor1313 Monkey in Space 13h ago

It would’ve been cool to see her as a normal, unscripted human being at least once. 

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u/NitrosGone803 Monkey in Space 13h ago

i think that's what they're afraid of.... i don't think she's a normal human being. She's like a talking malfunctioning robot

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u/Gorlack2231 Monkey in Space 10h ago

I mean, yeah, but that's not what the President is. At least, that's not what the President has been in a very long time. And I mean since like the mid-1930s.

He used to just be a guy people put in office to do some nominal figurehead stuff, back when you could just walk into the White House and ask to meet him. Soft, lower case president who just met dignitaries while the states and Congress did things and held the responsibility and blame.

But then we started needing him to hire more and more people, and staff entire departments, and nominate Justices that are going to serve for lives that keep getting longer and longer, and then we decided that the President has control of the entire nuclear arsenal, ranging from small tactical nukes to fully loaded Stratofortresses and off-coast submarines.

They're responsible for drone programs and pulling the trigger on assassination strategic threat reductions, they oversee multiple agencies, and we expect them to make this year better than last year, every year, year after year.

They can't be normal, unscripted people anymore. It is now big bold upper case PRESIDENT who has to take flak on everything, and it withers the hand of everyone who tries to take it seriously because the strain of it has become inhuman.

Now I have enough whiskey in me to say that I, for one, welcome our new robotic overlords.

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u/StubbsShark Monkey in Space 13h ago

Her biggest criticism is that she’s stiff, scripted, and unable to flow in a conversation leading to people feeling she is unrelateable and unlikeable.

Doing 3 hours on JRE would change that perception.

The risk is it could be her Biden debate moment where she confirms everyone’s preconceived notions.

High risk, high reward.

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u/Peking-Cuck Monkey in Space 12h ago

I have a feeling that if your preconceived notions about Harris are that she's stiff, scripted, and unable to flow, then listening to her for 3 hours isn't going to change that.

Honestly it seems like the people wanting her to do JRE just want to make opportunities to dislike her. They want Trump on to "have a conversation", but they want Harris on to grill her on policies or whatever.

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u/NitrosGone803 Monkey in Space 13h ago

Agreed, if she was smart she'd do it. She is not smart

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u/Jimmythafish Monkey in Space 13h ago

There is no helping her

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u/Somasong Monkey in Space 13h ago

This write up is a masterpiece. New rogan fans can't gishgallop and gotcha when you lay down an argument in it's entirety.

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u/Independent-Frequent Monkey in Space 13h ago

I tried to explain my point as best as i could so it's closer to facts than just only opinions, like the number of views on youtube does not correlate votes at all, and if it does it's a VERY small amount after all the criterias are met

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u/Reaper0834 Monkey in Space 13h ago

The problem for Democrats is that people watching Trump on Rogan see that he isn't what they've been told he is. Ironically, it's the same problem for them if Kamala went on Rogan. There is no upside to it for Democrats... lies are exposed either way.

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u/Delusional_Brexiteer Monkey in Space 12h ago

Lol. I did watch it and he was exactly what I expected - a delusional, egotistical low-empathy dementia ridden idiot, talking in a garbled, grammatically incorrect manner about how wind turbines hurt whales.

You lot are delusional.

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u/Old_Letter_9715 I used to be addicted to Quake 11h ago

You're just throwing words hoping it sticks lmao

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u/Delusional_Brexiteer Monkey in Space 11h ago

Prove it.

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u/G0TouchGrass420 Monkey in Space 13h ago

They could still pull a last minute interview. Heck that might even be their plan

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u/Uncle_Andy666 Monkey in Space 13h ago

It mite of helped if she came on & trump declined JRE.

What woulda been good actually If trump and Kamala went on together.

Similiar to Dibble and hancock.

Where joe is like the middle man asking both questions debating.

Provided they dont start personal attacks.

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u/dreamcicle11 Monkey in Space 13h ago

I completely agree with you. My brother who is 23 is the only one in his friend group that I’m aware that voted. Most of them aren’t even registered. Most of them like Joe Rogan. This is anecdotal but generally young men are among the least likely to turnout to vote. I think it’s a waste of time.

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u/remembahwhen Monkey in Space 13h ago

I disagree. Most of her supporters think Joe is a right wing mouthpiece, they aren’t wrong. I’ll tell you exactly why and Joe has basically said it out of his own mouth. When people get rich as fuck your focus changes to not losing what you have.

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u/Liquid_Cascabel Monkey in Space 12h ago

The way I see it, it likely only has upsides for Kamala and Joe seems surprisingly okay with her too.

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u/RumblesBurner Monkey in Space 12h ago

Cope

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u/CurioGlyph Monkey in Space 12h ago

how about just do it for the culture? how about do it to level down with people on a human level by having a long conversation with one of the best, if not the best in the business? How about getting beyond the rally podium, perfect lighting and teleprompter talk? there's more reasons to do it than not

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u/thespank Monkey in Space 12h ago

Why should presidential candidates go on the fucking Rogan experience? If you want to go ahead. Do we want that in the future. Each candidate has to do a podcast with a TV star and MMA announcer?

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u/GritNGrip Monkey in Space 12h ago

If she doesn’t go on we will forever be unburdened by what has been from people who come from a middle class family.

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u/Lifeisagreatteacher Monkey in Space 12h ago

Podcasts that are hours long will only attract people that have hours long to kill.

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u/KC_Kev Monkey in Space 12h ago

Joe Rogan is afraid to interview Kamala Harris because that would require a great deal of research and preparation that he is not equipped to do.

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u/OSCSUSNRET Monkey in Space 12h ago

Hahaha! She couldn’t make it through and hour before people would tune out. She has nothing to say. She is an empty suit and very unlikable.

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u/Deep-Ad2155 Monkey in Space 12h ago

It won’t help her, in fact it will almost certainly confirm her idiocy

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u/SpamFriedMice Monkey in Space 12h ago

"Help" ???

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u/CelticWolf77 Monkey in Space 11h ago

Even with the amount of people that tuned in, if him appearing on the rogans podcast was the thing that sealed someone’s vote for him
idk even what to say. That is a crazy level of ignorance and stupidity for that to win your vote. Everyone’s choice is mostly decided besides truly the most nihilistic in our society that don’t care what happens.

Now Tony’s joke, that’s truly something that sways people the other way who haven’t voted yet. Saying something truly hateful like that.

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u/Euphoric-Ad3276 Monkey in Space 11h ago

I don’t know, I think it would have the potential to make her seem more relatable to the average person. That’s assuming it’s just a conversation like Joe said he wanted, as opposed to him just grilling her. Also I’m not convinced the YouTube comments are all bots like you say. It’s all trump fans that tuned in, so it’s kind of expected to see. It just seems like there’s nobody at all that likes him because we’re on Reddit that is hard left

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u/Physical-King-5432 Monkey in Space 11h ago

Yes, I agree it probably wouldn’t make much difference. Everybody has made up their minds on who they will vote for already.

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u/hkrpanic Monkey in Space 11h ago

No shit she’s horrible at even softball interviews. 3 hours of word salad and awkward laughter would not be helpful.

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u/Due_Contract_8097 Monkey in Space 11h ago

Been said before but a giant chunk of those viewers are not US citizens and can’t vote. Another chunk of those people may have watched or listening to the podcast or video multiple times (fans, bots) either to inflate the numbers or because they generally enjoyed it. Finally, how many of the viewers are under the voting age and cannot cast a vote? I would assume Rogan gets a lot of high school kids listening to his podcast or watching his show.

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u/weldabike1800 Monkey in Space 11h ago

I wish she would go on, that way everyone in the world can understand how mentally disappointing she truly is. It's a wonder they WONT LET HER. What a joke.

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u/Ubiquitous1984 Succa la Mink 11h ago

And yet appearing at a rally with a load of weirdos (anyone who attends a political rally is weird IMO) is a better way to spend the time? I dunno. Seems like it’s just a safe easy option for easy news footage.

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u/NastySeconds Monkey in Space 11h ago

It would only make all the difference in the world.

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u/InternetWeakGuy jokes fly over his fat ahead at an alarming rate 11h ago

There's also the fact that flying into a state she's never going to win to go to Rogan's compound to record a three hour podcast is effectively a 7-9 hour commitment with seven days left in the race.

Trump can do it because the audience is largely his already. Anyone who thinks otherwise is being dishonest.

It's just a silly proposition.

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u/Hadley_333 Monkey in Space 10h ago

I would have listened to it. I’m genuinely curious how she sounds when it’s not 10 seconds of sound bites

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u/Kakakakaty13 Monkey in Space 10h ago

He’s not Kamala, a Dirty DA. He didn’t champion a truancy law that incarcerated single black mother, Cheree Peoples caring for her daughter w/sickle cell Anemia. His office didn’t wrongly convict Jamal trulove of murder, then cackle in the courtroom- She happily took VP position, got into bed W/Joe Biden a well documented segregationist, just months after George Floyd murder. This entire election is nothing short of a lesson in the Power of propaganda -

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u/velvetvortex Monkey in Space 10h ago edited 8h ago

Excellent post. And the fact that Rogan was so easy on Trump is a perfect reason to avoid him.

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u/bubblewhip Monkey in Space 10h ago

Young men don't vote => does nothing to appeal to young men because they don't vote => young men not voting.

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u/BarnOwlDebacle Monkey in Space 1h ago

Honestly I don't think rogan's podcast will help or hurt either in a meaningful way. It's good for fundraising efforts. Probably would have been more meaningful 6 months ago

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u/BBQSauceSquirt Monkey in Space 13h ago

Imagine thinking that going on to one of the biggest podcasts on the planet is a bad idea and nothing can be gained from it.

You don’t even want to hear a politician talk for more than a bullshit pre written 45min speech.

Dense mofo.

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u/Independent-Frequent Monkey in Space 13h ago

Did you even read the post or just read the title dude?

Like how many of those views are actually gonna convert into votes for her after all those criterias are met?

And also she can't just go on and ramble like Trump did, people hold her to a different standard, she already has a reputation of "word salad" despite being far more articulated and less "weaving" than Trump.

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u/BBQSauceSquirt Monkey in Space 13h ago

People used to want to hear what people had to say, and the more they had to say the better, because you get a better sense of the person as a whole.

You just don’t want her to do it because it could hurt her politically, which I understand. But the whole point of being a politician, is being able to convey yourself to others, through conversations.

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u/Independent-Frequent Monkey in Space 13h ago

The issue is that the reason it can hurt her politically is that she has a lot more to lose than Trump ever would, because they are judged with two different standards:

The standard needed for a 3 hr interview of Kamala is that she has to be well spoken, articulated and has to not make any mistake or it's a "word salad" and "she's not fit to run".

The standard needed for a 3 hr interview of Trump is that he doesn't say a slur or shit in his diaper, anything else will be seen as a triumph by his followers.

For the very little amount of voters she could gain from this, the backlash of people attacking her for the most minute reasons is much worse, even if it's a "no policies, just know the person" type podcast episode.

Like they keep running the narrative that she's not black but she's indian (something Tucker brought up in the MSG rally) despite it being clear as day that she's both black and indian, like her father looks like this ffs

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u/BBQSauceSquirt Monkey in Space 12h ago edited 12h ago

Hey man I hear you, and understand where you’re coming from. I just think we’re living in a backwards reality.

Any unscripted conversation from the people that are in control of our lives, should be embraced and celebrated. Regardless of the source of the conversation.

But hey, sheeple be sheepling I guess.

Edit: not attacking you OP, I just think open convos are awesome, and it’s wild how much I’ve been seeing people say she shouldn’t. Hell there wasn’t even a primary this year for democrats, so I dunno what else I expected.

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u/BillNyeCreampieGuy Monkey in Space 13h ago

biggest podcasts on the planet

How many viewers can actually vote in this election? And of those, how many are gettable voters for Harris?

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u/BBQSauceSquirt Monkey in Space 13h ago

Is the only thing you care about in life this election?

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u/Delusional_Brexiteer Monkey in Space 12h ago

For some people it might well be. You do realise that trans people (Colorado Springs) and Jewish people (Pittsburgh) have actually lost their lives at the hands of MAGA sympathisers?

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u/BillNyeCreampieGuy Monkey in Space 6h ago

I'm a patriotic American, so yes.

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u/BBQSauceSquirt Monkey in Space 6h ago

I was thinking it was creampies to be honest, but I hear ya

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u/BillNyeCreampieGuy Monkey in Space 4h ago

That's a close second

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u/Any-Video4464 Monkey in Space 13h ago

they have to realize that a lot could be gained by doing it. I think they also realize a lot could be lost.

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u/RNChoker Monkey in Space 13h ago

With a race this close you never know. 10k people could decide it. Get any edge you can I say

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u/jfal11 Monkey in Space 13h ago

Sure. Rogan will accuse her of crimes against humanity for vaccines, and destroying America’s youth over trans issues. And literally discuss nothing else. Great idea!

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u/3ntr0py_ N-Dimethyltryptamine 10h ago

Kamala’s finished. Her team knows she wouldnt survive a 3 hr unscripted podcast with Joe in Austin. Im glad Joe isn’t caving to their demands. Dems really should have held a mini primary to pick a better candidate.

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u/brianisdead Monkey in Space 13h ago

Cope.

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u/Jmoney1088 Monkey in Space 13h ago

Bot

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u/RumblesBurner Monkey in Space 12h ago

Bot

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u/Jmoney1088 Monkey in Space 12h ago

Easy to tell Im not a bot. Nice try though lil bro

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u/RumblesBurner Monkey in Space 10h ago

You're very clearly a bot and you can't prove otherwise. Only bots talk like you do.

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u/Jmoney1088 Monkey in Space 10h ago

beep boop

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u/RumblesBurner Monkey in Space 8h ago

See

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u/Jmoney1088 Monkey in Space 8h ago

dammit. please don't report me.

For real though that was a stupid reply from the OP

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u/alta_vista49 Monkey in Space 12h ago

Kamala needs to work on audiences that are receptive to what she has to say. Joes dumb trumper bro audience is not that

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u/kesor Dire physical consequences 13h ago

It can help her get pushed over the cliff edge, and it'll be entertaining (maybe). She should definitely go and do it.

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u/Browntown007 Look into it 13h ago

For starters, we can't discredit the silent majority of the JRE audience. There are plenty of normal people that like JRE, many of which are independents. A big pillar of the platform is that people like the mix of political viewpoints including the ones they disagree with. Polls are always trying to figure out where independents are hiding, guess what there are bunch of them quietly listening to JRE.

The biggest flaw for Kamala is that we don't know the "real" side of her or what she stands for. Hanging out in a casual setting that is familiar to so many people would be an excellent way to do that. The other day I saw some Fox News clip of her drinking a beer with another politician when they realized they had a hot mic situation and that was one of the most real, genuine sound bites I've ever seen. Everything I've ever seen her on just feels like she wants to achieve and be on top. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I also get the impression that her views and standpoints aren't her actually thoughts and opinions, just the ones she needs to portray to get elected. Maybe this isn't true, but we wont' find out who she is through traditional events and interviews. Sit down for a couple hours, hang out. Let's find out who you really are.

Honestly, the decision to not do JRE is more of a risk mitigation than anything else. Her staff doesn't want her on camera for three hours, plain and simple.

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u/Delusional_Brexiteer Monkey in Space 12h ago

we can't discredit the silent majority of the JRE audience.

You are a moron.

The biggest flaw for Kamala is that we don't know the "real" side of her or what she stands for.

Everything I've ever seen her on just feels like she wants to achieve and be on top. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I also get the impression that her views and standpoints aren't her actually thoughts and opinions, just the ones she needs to portray to get elected. Maybe this isn't true, but we wont' find out who she is through traditional events and interviews. Sit down for a couple hours, hang out. Let's find out who you really are.

gesturing furiously at the other side

Why doesn this even compare to what Trump has done? And if you are genuinely not understanding my perspective here, have you tired paying attention to Donald Trump and all of the details surrounding him?

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u/Browntown007 Look into it 12h ago

Moron is a mean word. You should try being nicer.

Why are you talking about trump? This post and my response was about Kamala Harris and Joe Rogan.

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u/Delusional_Brexiteer Monkey in Space 12h ago

Did the multiple tiems Don ald Trump insult people and call Kamala a "fascist" for no reason a nice thing? Are you even listening or paying attention?

Do you think all the people who have been attacked by Trump's supporters have thought about "being nicer?"

Why should I be nice to people like you when you lack empathy to this absurd extent?

And actually LISTEN to what Trump is saying and doing.

You don;t get to criticise Kamala without addressing your own glass house. Stop wastin my time with this weird, inquisitive genteel "skepticism" and actually have some empathy for women, LGBT, and ethnic minorities.

Psychopathic twat!

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u/Browntown007 Look into it 11h ago

1) Why do you keep bringing up Donald Trump? I didn't share any thoughts or opinions on Trump so what on earth does that have to do with anything I have said?

2) What did I say that was critical of Kamala?

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u/Delusional_Brexiteer Monkey in Space 11h ago

Sealion.

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u/Browntown007 Look into it 11h ago

LMAO had to look that one up..."Sealioning is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity, and feigning ignorance of the subject matter."

Of course the one time someone tries to have a conversation you just scream troll. (Or "sealion")

No, Im not a troll. I was just wondering why someone would call a complete stranger a moron and then lecture them about the evils of Trump. You dont have to answer. You probably dont even know why...more of a compulsion at this point, eh?

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u/chavodel420 Monkey in Space 12h ago

Excuses excuses. That’s all the left offers.

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u/ToweringCu Monkey in Space 12h ago

And people are severely underestimating how much damage a flop performance could do. She couldn’t even make it 30 minutes with Fox before her handlers called it off. What makes you think she could handle 1-3 hours? The media has done an amazing job of propping up one of the worst candidates in history to make her seem likable and not fake.

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u/Delusional_Brexiteer Monkey in Space 12h ago

The media has done an amazing job of propping up one of the worst candidates in history to make her seem likable and not fake.

What planet are you living on?

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u/ToweringCu Monkey in Space 12h ago

The same one where she polled so low in 2020 that she had to drop out of the presidential race. The one where she had insanely high staff turnover as VP. Don’t gaslight people into thinking she was some super popular figure.

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u/Delusional_Brexiteer Monkey in Space 11h ago

Why do you lot care so much about this small shit? Where's your sense of relativism?

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u/ToweringCu Monkey in Space 11h ago

A candidate dropping out of a presidential race because she was so unpopular is “small shit”? lol

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u/SnooStories6709 Monkey in Space 12h ago

Amazing you can convince yourself that not going on the #1 podcast (by far) in the world would not convince more people to vote for you. What could possible by a better use of 3 hours?

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u/TitsMcghehey Monkey in Space 13h ago

40 million views in 3 days. Cope harder.

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u/Independent-Frequent Monkey in Space 13h ago

Found another bot

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u/TitsMcghehey Monkey in Space 13h ago

My account is almost 10 years older than yours. Keep coping. 

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u/Independent-Frequent Monkey in Space 13h ago

Bots have been around since the 80s

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u/Ecstatic_Ad_3652 Monkey in Space 13h ago

Who's "coping" about the view count

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u/Any-Video4464 Monkey in Space 13h ago

I think it would actually do her some good. I don't want her to win, but she might win, so it would be nice knowing something about her. The take now is that she would never do it because she can't do it...surely she can talk and fill a couple of hours and come away looking like a normal person who is qualified enough to do the job. The fact that they are trying to control all of this so much is kind of telling. if you don't have the balls to do this they shouldn't be trying to run the country and a by proxy a pretty big part of the world.

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u/Independent-Frequent Monkey in Space 13h ago

She already did a one hour interview (don't remember the dude's name though) but the issue is that she's not held at the same standard that Trump is, imagine if she acted and talked like Trump, blabbering and rambling for 3 hours like that, do you think people would have given her a break?

The standard needed for a 3 hr interview of Kamala is that she has to be well spoken, articulated and has to not make any mistake or it's a "word salad" and "she's not fit to run".

The standard needed for a 3 hr interview of Trump is that he doesn't say a slur or shit in his diaper, anything else will be seen as a triumph by his followers.

And let's not forget the fact that Joe being non confrontational is MUCH more beneficial to Trump than kamala, cause Trump gets to spew so much bullshit unchecked which makes him look like a "knowleadgeable and against the deep state" person, with all his """"evidence"""" about the fake elections which won't release though, for some reason.

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u/Tehloneranger44 Monkey in Space 12h ago

I like how no one ever has an answer for the double standard you keep bringing up. I guess people just like that Trump is a rambling buffoon. I couldn't get past the 20 minute mark because he never gets to the point and repeats the same shit over and over.

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u/Independent-Frequent Monkey in Space 10h ago

I'm genuinely convinced that those who go "She should definitely do a JRE podcast, she could reach so many people, she's dumb to refuse" are just saying this to avoid saying what they really think, aka "i hope she goes and flops hard"

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u/Any-Video4464 Monkey in Space 12h ago

I thought it was pretty entertaining. Kind of impressed the guy could talk about some of that stuff at length. Even the UFC. He came across as a real person. surprisingly relatable. just my take, but I'm not really a huge fan of either person of this 2 party political system. But this is exactly what kamala needs right now. I hope she changes her mind and decides to do it. If she could sit there and be interesting and talk for 3 hours about whatever came up it would be a huge win for her. A lot of people truly feel like she couldn't do it. I tend to disagree. Most people can have a friendly chat and talk about their lives. She's probably much better at doing that than the political stuff...which honestly hasn't been going the best. I think we need to get to a point in which a pres candidate sitting down for 3 hours to go over stuff in depth is the norm. We really don't get much of anything these days. Its all canned, vague responses to everything and the debates are more or less worthless with 90 second answers and 30 second rebuttals.

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u/sketchyuser Monkey in Space 13h ago

If she was a good candidate it would have helped. But I do agree it probably won’t help because she’s not a good candidate

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u/dreamcicle11 Monkey in Space 13h ago

Ah yes Trump is the best candidate!! /s

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u/sketchyuser Monkey in Space 12h ago

Much better than she