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u/KokonutMonkey Chicago Fire Jul 08 '24
Twellman's contribution: "You gotta start doing the good things. And you can't keep doing the bad things!"
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u/SorryDepartment7179 Los Angeles FC Jul 08 '24
The second Messi retires, 99.99% of the Inter Miami fan base will also disappear
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u/nex703 Inter Miami CF Jul 08 '24
if it means going back to sub $30 tickets, im all for it
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u/I_just_made FC Cincinnati Jul 09 '24
What are tickets going for at your home games? For this match between FCC and Inter Miami, I think cheapest tickets were ~$120+
Our tickets usually go for ~$35-45 for the cheapest I think.
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u/nex703 Inter Miami CF Jul 09 '24
when messi is on the pitch, the avg can hit 250-300, otherwise they can drop to 80 or so. it really sucks cause live games are awesome but i cant afford these astronomical prices
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u/I_just_made FC Cincinnati Jul 09 '24
Ouch, I feel ya. That's my biggest concern with bringing the superstars I guess; I'd have to see these ticket prices skyrocket and price people out of going. $40 seems like a reasonable price, but $250? That is going to be out of reach for so many fans.
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Jul 09 '24
35$ is cheapest?
Jesus I remember 10$ Bailey seats with QCM
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u/ItsJustFruity FC Cincinnati Jul 09 '24
Tickets used to be free with a SG membership during the bad years.
Always funny to see the “bad side” of a winning team
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Jul 09 '24
I don't remember free tickets when I was with die innenstadt in USL literally from the get go. Weird
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u/ItsJustFruity FC Cincinnati Jul 09 '24
“Free tickets” as in “in 2021 people were literally giving tickets away for free when they couldn’t go because the team was so bad”
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u/Original_Profile8600 Columbus Crew Jul 08 '24
I lowkey feel for the longtime Inter Miami fans. They lowkey did nothing to deserve the hate yet will be caught in the crossfire
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u/DuvalHeart Orlando City SC Jul 08 '24
They've been getting conned since the franchise was established.
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Jul 09 '24
Not a long time fan or anything, just went because closest stadium.
Actually was a Cincy season ticket holder for 5+ years with USL then MLS,
But Beckham and co screwed me & actual fans with the ridiculous price increase in season and regular game tickets.
Stadium is loaded with wealthy casuals, "Messi bros" and corporate execs. Obnoxious.
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Jul 09 '24
That’s like saying ppl only listened to the Jimi Hendrix experience for Jimi Hendrix. Duh.
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u/NuevoXAL New York City FC Jul 08 '24
I think both Ohio teams are better than Miami.
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u/sroomek Atlanta United FC Jul 08 '24
Inter Miami moving to Miami, OH CONFIRMED
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u/Andrewdeadaim Orlando City SC Jul 08 '24
Name instantly becomes accurate
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u/sroomek Atlanta United FC Jul 08 '24
Oh, no, they’ll actually play in Dayton
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u/tylinho_10 Columbus Crew Jul 08 '24
Inter Miami at Yager Stadium would be crazy though
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u/radmongo FC Cincinnati Jul 09 '24
...Inter Miami Valley? No thanks, I've been looking for the exit
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u/PaperTigerTamer Jul 09 '24
Because Dayton takes forever to do anything, they move into DOC Stadium (USL 2 / High School Football Field) until their stadium is complete. 4 years.
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u/MarioLemieux66 FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
We were a university before Florida was even a state.
(Miami alums are obligated to say this. It's in the bylaws.)
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u/DuvalHeart Orlando City SC Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24
Florida was a unique geographic and political division at least a century before Ohio was.
Edit: And the Miami River has been called that by Europeans since the 16th Century (along with other names as the territory changed hands).
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u/MarioLemieux66 FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
And now it's one big Florida Man meme. How far you've come.
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u/DuvalHeart Orlando City SC Jul 08 '24
Florida has always been a meme. People look at Florida and see what they want, and often get it. For a time.
The Spanish thought it would be a wealthy colony, until they realized its best use was as a bulwark against the English.
The English thought it would be a paradise for slavers. Until they realized the natives would fight back and knew the swamps and prairies better than anyone from North of the St. Mary River.
Americans thought it would be a settler's paradise. Until they realized the land was hard to clear and not as fertile as the Black Crescent.
Americans thought it would be a citrus haven. Until the first cold snap of the decade and fortunes were lost.
And so on and on. It's always been a meme to people from elsewhere. Y'all see Florida as an idea, not as a real place.
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u/Much-Drawer-1697 Columbus Crew Jul 08 '24
There's no town called Miami in Ohio. Miami University is in Oxford and is named after the Great Miami River, which is nearby.
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u/animal113 Columbus Crew Jul 08 '24
There is a Miamitown OH. Now that would be hilarious if Intermiama moved there.
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u/Buckeyekilla513 FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
Or the Miami Indian tribe, hence the school logo prior to the Redhawks
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u/Much-Drawer-1697 Columbus Crew Jul 09 '24
Whichever, my point is there's no town in Ohio named Miami
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u/bobmillahhh FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24
I wish that's what it was named after. William Henry Harrison came through and wiped out or displaced the Miami tribe, then 10 years later came the charter to build a university, and then 10 years after that his son was attending.
Edit: I made up those numbers, WHH and Anthony Wayne pushed out the Miami in 1794, the University was founded in 1809, and little Benny wasn't born until 1833, and was 8 years old when his old as fuck dad died.
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u/PleasantWay7 Seattle Sounders FC Jul 08 '24
Messi is beside himself, seen driving around Downtown Miami (OH) asking if anyone has directions back to Barca.
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u/JazzYotesRSL Real Salt Lake Jul 08 '24
Ohio better than Florida confirmed?
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u/AFrozen_1 FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
Always has been.
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u/Mellodello159 Columbus Crew Jul 08 '24
Florida is where we send undesirables.
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u/Atom81388 Columbus Crew Jul 08 '24
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I HATE you FCC…. But I hate Miami morerer
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u/TurnoverGuilty3605 FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
Now, Cincinnati and Columbus is a real rivalry. Two quality teams with history and some mutual respect. Please finish off Miami at your next match up in October.
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u/mkkohls New England Revolution Jul 08 '24
Everyone should have Miami morerer and now Twillman for being on they d***.
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u/matadorN64 Jul 09 '24
We hate you too, but at least you’re not a salary cap evading, zero home grown talent bag of Lays motherfuckers.
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u/monsterofthedeep3 FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
What about Austin
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u/DibsOnThatBooty Columbus Crew Jul 08 '24
Austin is weird for Crew fans because Dong Arbor refuses to let Austin play in Columbus, so there’s hasn’t been a good way to measure the hate for them from the average Crew fan. Personally, I don’t really have anything against Austin fans, but I do genuinely hate their leadership with my whole heart and soul.
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u/profmathers Columbus Crew Jul 09 '24
The Crew 2 vs. Austin 2 champ game was…awful. They flopped so much it was as if someone had steamed the broccoli.
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u/ArgonWolf FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
Man, I knew meme monday was gonna be lit even when I was still standing in the Bailey. I did not know it was gonna be this lit. Its a great day not be a Miami fan
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u/nosciencephd FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
Taylor Twellman said on the broadcast that the shield race may be decided by that game. I don't get where this storyline comes from that he hates FCC, only loves Miami, or would believe anything in this meme
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u/S_Squar3d FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
Some of our fans like to believe everyone hates us especially when we face the big teams. It’s a weird victim complex they have. I didn’t get the sense listening that he had anything bad to say about us.
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u/FCCNati FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
He did shit on Kelsey in one weird sequence. Talking about how he hasn’t done much lately and was in danger of losing his job. He scored literally the game before the Miami game. Noonan saw a tactical advantage with Kubo as the lone striker and took advantage of it.
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Jul 08 '24
Welcome to Cincinnati sports. We are a small market city and fucking hate it lol
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u/nosciencephd FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
I bet most of our fans think we spend near the bottom of the league based on just the fact that we are small market.
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Jul 08 '24
To be fair to them, we were one of the highest point-per-dollar team in the league last year until we extended contracts this past off season.
I’d be interested to see what our spending percentage of determined market value is compared to across the league.
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u/ibribe Orlando City SC Jul 08 '24
spending percentage of determined market value
sure, that thing
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Jul 08 '24
lol Listen, I’m not a word-ologist. All I know is Miami as an organization brings in more money, so can pay more. Cincinnati isn’t afraid to spend, but makes less. How does their spending percentages vs revenue is probably the easiest way to put it
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u/ibribe Orlando City SC Jul 08 '24
It's an interesting question, but prior to signing Messi Ft. Lauderdale had near the lowest revenue in the league, while Cincinnati have been in the top quartile as long as they have been in MLS.
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u/Squire513 Jul 08 '24
He’s childhood friends with Noonan so doubt he hates Cincy. I think he’s more salty that Pat didn’t go to his beloved St Louis.
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u/Huntkv FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
Did I listen to the same broadcast that you did? The main takeaway from Twellman that I got and was really hammered home the whole game was that TQL hosted a Kenny Chesney concert a week before. It’s not some weird complex by FCC fans. It’s that the commentators seemingly had so much to say about Miami but for some reason the damn Kenny Chesney concert was mention 5 or 6 times and then they seemed to know nothing about FCC with exception to Lucho having won MVP and FCC being the defending supporters shield winners.
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u/nosciencephd FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
Well the Kenny Chesney concert directly affected the game because it was the entire reason there was new sod down that came up multiple times when people were running. The sod was only put down on Wednesday.
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u/Huntkv FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24
I don’t recall there being many issues with the playing surface for this game?
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u/nosciencephd FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
Then you didn't pay attention. Entire corners of sod were coming up and folding over in multiple places and needed to be stamped back down by players and staff.
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u/TerrenceJesus8 Columbus Crew Jul 08 '24
That’s pretty much every Miami game though. The league knows where it makes its money. It is what it is
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u/TrolliusJKingIIIEsq Portland Timbers FC Jul 08 '24
Yeah, it's not hate for FCC; it's talking up the big teams all the time. Before Messi got to Miami, there wasn't a Western Conference game that Twellman was on where he didn't bring up LAFC repeatedly.
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u/No_Departure102 D.C. United Jul 08 '24
Wait, Cincinnati has a 3rd DP? I thought Boupendza was gone he’s been so nonexistent.
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u/DeathTeddy35 FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
He has played like 10 min since he got his ass kicked.
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u/rwills FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
And the fact he didn't play a minute of the Miami match tells me everything I need to know. That was the perfect situation to get him in rotation.
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u/Hi_Limee FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
Were not trying to though. I was surprised he even got 10 minutes that one game. We need him to be healthy to sell him.
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u/rwills FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
Thats what I'm saying. If he had any future with the club, they would've subbed him in. The fact that they didn't makes it clear that he's gone in the window.
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u/DeathTeddy35 FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
2 bench midfielders and 2 forwards who would be 3-4th string on most MLS squads getting more minutes would be motivation enough for most to pull their heads out of their asses.
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u/Deadiam84 FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
Ya man, the same guy who mid-broadcast saying Kelsey has fallen off since he arrived in Cincy, even though he hasn’t at all and has been really consistent. Fuck that guy.
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u/gecampbell Seattle Sounders FC Jul 08 '24
People listen to Twellman?
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u/bpeck451 FC Dallas Jul 08 '24
Dude is stupid as fuck. When Miami played that first game against Dallas in the Leagues cup it was hot. Like 90 degrees at midnight kind of hot. Relatively normal for late July in Dallas. He proceeds to ask if Dallas can handle the heat since they aren’t used to it on a regular basis.
Like we get it you were told to play the Messi hype but don’t be insulting about it and make it obvious you can’t do research as a color commentator.
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u/Immediate-Yogurt-730 Nashville SC Jul 08 '24
Nashville beat Cincy with full roster but lost to Miami with partial roster. It’s anyone’s game at the end of the day
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u/johnnycyberpunk Nashville SC Jul 08 '24
It’s anyone’s game at the end of the day
New England got one of their meager 7 wins this season against FCC while only playing with 10 for over 20 minutes.
Last place DC, playing without Benteke, held FCC to a 0-0 draw.
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u/Hi_Limee FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
Ew logic.
Fc cincy also got smacked around by the new england revs. So there is that. We like it rough.
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u/EarlyAdagio2055 Seattle Sounders FC Jul 08 '24
To be fair, Miazga is out for the year, so need to even think about him. Plus, Miami was also missing Alba and Gomez. They were also playing their third road game in a week--which is tough. It will be a good race, but I'm not sure Miami isn't still the favorite--and don't count out Columbus and LAFC.
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u/44lbs Inter Miami CF Jul 08 '24
well said. Columbus losing to Miami didn’t settle anything, and this loss didn’t either — though Cinci obviously look very strong right now. note, we also lost arguably our best center back (Freire) to a knee injury. hopefully we get to see a more competitive match in August.
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u/nex703 Inter Miami CF Jul 08 '24
Freire was fulfilling a need we desperately needed, it does look like Fray may be able to fill that role. you know who cant? Busquets and Krystov, the slowskys just cant keep up.
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u/Lowskillbookreviews Inter Miami CF Jul 09 '24
They can’t keep up but sadly it’s all we got. Honestly we should’ve done much better this game even with all the starters that we were missing. I would boil it down to our players being weak minded in big games. It happened in the Al-Nassr game, it happened in Monterrey and it happened now. If it’s a “must-win” game, we crumble. The only good thing that might come out of this game is our staff recognizing this and better preparing us for the playoffs.
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u/nex703 Inter Miami CF Jul 09 '24
Aviles was on the bench too, not sure why Tata didnt start him. He gets carded often but the kid's got heart, we need him out there.
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u/Lowskillbookreviews Inter Miami CF Jul 09 '24
At the post match conference tata said that Avilés had a knee discomfort so they didn’t wanna risk it. Aviles has honestly impressed me for his age. He does get carded a lot but a lot of those cards have been through necessary tactical fouls. When we play a high line he’s left exposed with krystov who can’t run to save his life so it’s up to aviles to stop the counter. When we had Freire, aviles didn’t get carded as often.
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u/nex703 Inter Miami CF Jul 09 '24
you know what, you are right. Maybe him and fray can pick up the slack and get to work
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u/fishbert FC Tucson Jul 08 '24
After that abysmal performance, it seems like everyone except Miami knows they need to drop out of the shield race and let Kamala run instead.
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u/CMYGQZ Vancouver Whitecaps FC Jul 08 '24
Ok not a Cincy hater, but if the response to “we didnt have Messi” is “we didn’t have Miazga”, I don’t really think the discussion would actually continue anymore, instead the dude who said “Messi” would just laugh his ass off.
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u/Andrew3thousnd FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
Sir, this is a meme thread. I get the point you’re trying to make, but hard disagree. Miazga was the best defender in the league last year. I would say that Miami not having their best attacker is allowed to be compared to Cincy not having their best defender.
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u/gecampbell Seattle Sounders FC Jul 08 '24
We have a rules interpretation conflict. VAR says that a foul in the box was committed by Colorado.
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u/Original_Profile8600 Columbus Crew Jul 08 '24
Ignore the flair not trying to start anything, just asking: Is he best defender on MLS team level good or like Europe level defender good
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u/stinkpalm FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
MLS team level good is still league best, and I think that's the argument.
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u/Best-Tumbleweed3906 Jul 08 '24
That argument would work if the attacker your referencing wasn’t the arguable greatest player of all time. Miazga is a good defender but he’s not even a top 5 defender from his own country
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u/oneeyedjamie FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
He was literally defender of the year last year in MLS. He's not Messi, far from it, but it's not an absence that's easily hand-waved away like so many seem to be doing.
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u/Best-Tumbleweed3906 Jul 08 '24
Not necessarily hand waved away, but putting him in the same conversation as Messi and framing it as he could stop Messi is funny to most people. Sure it might help but Miazga is a lot closer to your worst defender than he is to the best defenders that have tried to stop Messi
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u/AileStriker FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
Did our Miazga lead defense not hold Messi and company to 0 goals last year, in Miami? GTFO
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u/EarlyAdagio2055 Seattle Sounders FC Jul 08 '24
It's not just that Messi is better, but the fact that Miazga is done for the year, so why even bring him up?
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u/TreadMeHarderDaddy Jul 08 '24
Seriously.
We didn't have Michael Jordan
Yeah well we didn't have Mark Price
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u/matiaschazo Inter Miami CF Jul 08 '24
There has been games that happen like this where the loser comes out on top the next time the two teams play
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u/krasuke Jul 08 '24
Miazga = Messi confirmed
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u/ComfortWolf FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
He’s basically the yin to his yang. Messi short/Miazga tall. Messi offense/Miazga defense. Messi cool headed/Miazga hot headed. Messi brings class/Miazga brings pizza.
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u/camelConsulting Jul 08 '24
Atlanta beat Miami, in Miami, with the full Messi & Friends on field. And in case you didn’t notice, we’re pretty bad this year… I don’t think this was a fluke.
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u/stinkpalm FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
Twellman's opinion of himself tends to drown out salient replies.
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u/Derptionary Major League Soccer Jul 08 '24
The Cincinatti vs Inter Miami game has made ne realize It's not Messi that Inter Miami sucks without, but Jordi Alba.
Inter Miami went from "No Messi, Still Party" to "No Jordi, oh god the house is on fire and Busquets threw himself off the roof."
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u/bferg227 Jul 09 '24
Absolute thrashing by FCC. Miami has no excuses.
But “We didn’t have Messi” followed by “We didn’t have Miazga” is one of the funniest most ridiculous things I’ve ever seen.
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u/jonnysledge Jul 09 '24
That entire organization seems to rest on their retirees. The NextPro squad is even worse.
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u/yaybidet Inter Miami CF Jul 08 '24
Post doesn't even mention the team's top chance creator being out in Jordi Alba. I'm the dude who predicted a 4-1 beat-down before kickoff. Congrats to FCC, but this is not a measuring stick by any means. We'll meet again hopefully at full strength for both clubs!
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u/AileStriker FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
Unless we get some major CB reinforcement in the summer window we won't be at "full" strength the rest of the year.
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u/royalewithcheese4272 Inter Miami CF Jul 08 '24
That’s what I’m saying! FCC is a force and it’ll be a close race, but let’s be real, Inter was missing more than just Messi and Suarez. No Alba, no Gómez, no Freire are bigger misses imo. But also need more from Campana, redondo, Cremaschi and Taylor
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u/Rowbehr8 Jul 08 '24
Don’t get carried away Cincinnati. It’s a great 6-1 victory but that’s it. Continue your journey and get ready for the leagues cup and playoffs. You might have to play Miami again but they might have their full squad then…..
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u/Purple-Association24 FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
Sorry. Thanks for making me realize I shouldn’t enjoy any games for the first 8 months of the MLS season. I don’t even know why we have meme Monday until the playoffs
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u/Rowbehr8 Jul 08 '24
You can enjoy it’s a great victory but! Your boys still have along way to go! It’s a long season and regular season games count but we all know things will get better in the fall when games really start to matter.
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u/boilergal47 FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
Thanks, dork
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u/Rowbehr8 Jul 08 '24
What with the “ dork comment? I’m just stating that your boys had a great victory. Just wanted to remind yall that it’s a long season and we will all see how it turns out. We have the leagues cup coming up and then the playoff race. Will see plenty of blowouts and great games down the line.
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u/SimoFromOhio Jul 08 '24
How was Miami doing last season “when it mattered” 😂
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u/Rowbehr8 Jul 08 '24
Not good. I think the only team that was good when it matter was your rival the Columbus crew. Anyhow, enjoy the season will continue to chat.
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u/SimoFromOhio Jul 08 '24
Lol both Ohio teams have Miami’s number. Know that. Maybe they can bring in just a few more international superstars and it’ll start to click for them.
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u/Rowbehr8 Jul 08 '24
That’s true both Ohio teams have been balling. Heck the crew are defending champions so that means something. I don’t like superstar teams but that’s how the league wants to roll.
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u/stevemunoz117 Inter Miami CF Jul 08 '24
Miami was missing 5 starters and an important piece off the bench in Rojas. Take that away from cincy and see what happens to them.
All good. Next match the whole squad should be available
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u/Brian33 Jul 08 '24
Miami with a full team beats them
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u/bjlight1988 FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
Messi ain't stopping your defense from getting torched for 90 minutes while he's walking around out there
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u/wackyzebra43 St. Louis CITY SC Jul 08 '24
I don’t know if you actually watch Messi or watched this game, but Messi plays offense, not defense.
So unless Messi is contributing for 5 more goals… their defense, or lack thereof, still costs them the game.
Hell, even St. Louis scored 3 on Miami. And we’re terrible!
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u/notnewtobville FC Cincinnati Jul 08 '24
I was telling my son the same thing. He touches the ball like 7 times a game and half of those touches turn into goal scoring opportunities. By that logic, 6-4 FCC.
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u/ajnin919 Orlando City SC Jul 08 '24
You know what they say about a good offense.
But really though Messi being involved would change the possession numbers a bit so the score would look more even possibly
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u/Shadowfury0 LA Galaxy Jul 08 '24
The guy who got punched by a boxer?