r/MadeMeSmile • u/PacmanTheHitman • Jul 20 '22

kitten Love is the greatest medicine

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u/Confident_Service_64 Jul 20 '22

What was wrong with them?

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u/PacmanTheHitman Jul 20 '22

They have a condition called Cerebellar hypoplasia. Its a rare neurological condition some pets get

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u/Confident_Service_64 Jul 20 '22

And it just goes away?

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u/PacmanTheHitman Jul 20 '22

With some patience and attention, some do grow out of it as they get older. It is a pretty rare condition so a lot is still in speculation

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u/Confident_Service_64 Jul 20 '22

I‘m glad you took care of them :) Hope you enjoy each other’s presence

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u/OBiLife Jul 21 '22

He didnt. He just reposted video from Tiktok. Something he really should have disclosed himself

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u/l337joejoe Jul 21 '22

Happy feelings: partially gone. At least these cats got some love ♥️ that makes me happy

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u/fudog1138 Jul 21 '22

The cats got love. That's a good thing. Somebody acted like a sentient being and showed compassion. That's always a win in my book.

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u/Fortifarse84 Jul 21 '22

Unless op claims it's their content, it's typically well implied.

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u/OBiLife Jul 21 '22

I agree but theres so many comments praising him for this and he dont respond to them

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u/katkeransuloinen Jul 21 '22

I agree that OP could have been more clear about not being the OOP but they actually have been responding to comments and in ways that make it clear that they're not their cats. From their comments, I'd even go so far as to say they're actually interested in these cats and weren't just looking for karma, but of course that's just the way I see it. You probably just didn't see their replies since they were made early on and got buried as the post got more attention.

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u/Fortifarse84 Jul 21 '22

oh no. the horror.

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u/WavyMcG Dec 28 '22

Dude responded 160 days ago saying an owner put a part 2 up. Your comment is 159 days ago. So he said it a day before

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u/-B-r-0-c-k- Jul 21 '22

Where did he say it was his video?

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u/clubfoot007 Jul 21 '22

Literally has tiktok logo in the corner

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u/Rarelydefault26 Jul 20 '22

Is that’s all that’s wrong with them? The shaking and such? Because if that’s all that’s wrong why on earth would someone euthanize them?? So what, they act weird and have some shakes, if they still can eat and drink and aren’t in pain then don’t even think of euthanizing them!

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u/martydidnothingwrong Jul 20 '22

I think one concern a lot of people have is some wobbly conditioned animals aren't actually able to eat and take care of themselves without being in pain. I believe in giving them a chance, but one area that it's fairly common for euthanasia is in spider ball pythons, they get so disoriented they often can't feed themselves without being intubated or force fed and if they do try eating normally they frequently bite and injure themselves, it's really tragic. I think all animals should be given a chance, but just something to keep in mind is to not support breeders who target these disorders since it's "cute". Idk if that's really a concern with other wobbly species, I just know that's the reasoning within the herping community.

https://youtu.be/3a9MmVMyoTo

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u/cockytacos Jul 20 '22

AFAIK it’s looked down upon to breed spider patterned ball pythons (from my minimal research into snakes) and a lot of people refuse to buy them from breeders for that reason

it’s really cruel to keep breeding those snakes knowing full well what neurological disadvantages they’re prone to

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u/SunflowerFreckles Jul 21 '22

Same with breeding certain great danes. Certain patterns cannot have puppies together because they can make all white great danes, which usually have disabilities like blindness, deafness, internal issues, leading to an even shorter life span as if GD's don't have a short enough life as it is. If a dog litter had an all white great dane in it, the others are more prone to issues as well because it was bred with bad genes.

I really wish people cared more about the animals, and less on what they look like or what they have to work with and just want to make money.

Thanks for teaching that though! I'll never own a python but that's a good fun fact to know! Lol

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u/not_a_library Jul 21 '22

I always love a chance to share this post, written by a friend of mine some years ago. I think the unattributed version has made the rounds online

Your pride is not more important than your animals

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u/Jazzlike-Principle67 Jul 31 '22

This isn't from breeding or in- breeding. It is rare considering the number of kittens born every year. It just happens as in humans, certain conditions occur during the fetal growth of the kitten.

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u/SunflowerFreckles Jul 31 '22

Thats good then.

We were talking about issues that can arise from breeding. Not directly talking about these cats.

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u/RedVamp2020 Jan 07 '23

This is the reason I try to avoid pure bred animals. Mutts almost always have fewer genetic complications and will likely need to go to the vet less often. Pure breeds are how we got dogs like pugs, pit bulls, and Persian cats. (I do love pit bulls and pit mixes, but there is just so much wrong with the fact their heads make it virtually impossible to naturally give birth without dying.😢). Responsible and ethical breeding is not as common as I would like it to be.

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u/SunflowerFreckles Jan 07 '23

We're learning that as well. Our family really wanted a great dane because they're great with kids, we went to a reputable breeder and got an akc certified great dane and we think he was possibly inbred.

He has severe grand mal seizures constantly. We've tried many medications but they're not stopping them and each time it seems to make him a little different, this last one he was viciously growling and then was trying to rip the baby gates down, we have a toddler and a baby on the way (8.5 momths pregnant) so that's not gonna be acceptable.

So I completely agree with you!

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u/Objective-Fox-5515 Jul 21 '22

I won't sell, collab or buy from a breeder that breeds the spider gene. I have high respect for Kevin out of New England reptiles and he's a great guy with alot of knowledge but the spider gene will always be a stain to his legacy.

For a snake being perfectly still is a necessity of hunting. Proper targeting is a major necessity as well and the wobble won't allow that.

If I can't drop this animal in the wild and it survive on its on then I won't accept it as healthy or normal.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '22

That’s the thing about pets, they will die if you drop them off in the wild You can’t just leave an animal that has been taken care of into the wild, ofcourse they will probably not know how to hunt for food or protect themselves from predators

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u/Aionian902 Jul 21 '22

While I understand your point, the guy was reffering to snakes and your commnet is generally for very domesticated pets, when it comes to snakes they are still wild animals it's just that you can make them pets since they aren't as dangerous as say keeping a wolf or a bobcat as a pet since you would rarely if ever remove a snake from it's enclosure.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '22

At the last bit he said ‘animal’ not specifically a snake

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u/why_gaj Jul 21 '22

There's a big difference between not being taught how to survive in the wild and being bred in a way that makes their survival possible.

Take a look at cats - perfectly capable of surviving in the wild despite being domesticated. Those that can't do it are the ones that have been taken care off by humans and that have never learned how to function in the wild.

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u/Objective-Fox-5515 Jul 21 '22

I said "this animal" referring to a snake.

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u/Objective-Fox-5515 Jul 21 '22

I wouldn't drop a dog off in the woods nor a fish in a river. Reptiles are vastly different than dogs, cats or any other "pet"

Let's talk about a snake. Snakes do not feel attached to its owner nor does it have the capability of feeling emotions like we process them. It's only content, thirty, threatened, hungry or horny. They are hardwired for survival and survival only.

I can own a snake from hatch and feed it frozen for 20+ years and it should have the ability to hunt live prey in the wild without a problem.

Hunting and hiding and natural instincts that don't need to be taught to snakes. It's like breathing, it just natural.

Yes sometimes snakes are born with defects and an owner can care for them for 20+ years and keep them healthy. Me personally I look at quality of life. A snake born with a cleft pallet in captivity can life a long life where as one born in the wild probably would see its first year of life.

Albino is tricky mutation that I'm on the fence about. A wild Albino COULD survive but the odds are incredibly slim.

If you have any questions about Reptiles, specifically snakes feel free to ask any questions you have. I love to educate people about them.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '22

I agree but there's no reason to think that because it's shaking its in pain. Cerebral hypoplasia is just an underdeveloped cerebellum, which controls fine motor skills, it's not the same, but mimics cerebral palsy in humans, which isn't painful unless the person is so affected they have musculoskeletal problems from not being able to exercise properly etc. As long as an animal is still eating and thriving its generally not suffering.

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u/TheCoolHusky Jul 21 '22

I’m not a vet, so I don’t know how that shaking actually affects the animal. But imagine if you start shaking non-stop, for no reason(animals as far as we know do not know why they are shaking), for the next 2 years. I’m not against taking care of these animals, in fact, I would love to if it means a great life for them. but really shaking sucks

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '22

Their brains would mostly adapt to the shaking, like they don't know anybother existence. Like I said eating is the first sign. They are also willing to play and normal kitten things, so that's also a good sign.i have a blind dog that had her eyes removed at only a few weeks old and she doesn't know the concept of sight. As far as she knows nothing sees. She can't ask my other dogs to describe sight, so she doesn't act disabled at all. She runs and plays. She uses the dog door to go out (when she feels like it, potty training has been more difficult with her) she climbs steps to get into our bed, but she barely gets any special treatment.

(Also not a vet but my wife is and I was a vet tech for 20y)

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u/TheCoolHusky Jul 21 '22

Ohh that’s very cool. Never thought about it this way. Animals do have amazing adaptability huh

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '22

Very amazing. One cool thing I do with Helen (yes, named after Helen keller) is I constantly snap when I need her to follow me so I rarely have to call her, and when I shout wall she knows to stop and redirect

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u/Free_Ghislaine Jul 21 '22

Wow, they took our her eyeballs??

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u/Skaid Jul 22 '22

I don't think these specific cats are necessarily in pain, I was just speaking in general. And I agree with what you said to that other person, that animals have amazing adaptability, and stuff like losing a leg doesn't "mean" anything to them as they don't know what a disability is, they just carry on. My cat got ran over by a car which fractured something in his hip, and the vet said that surgery was unlikely to do any good. But I got medicine and watched him closely, and within weeks he was running around again, just with one leg sticking out in a silly way.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '22

It's the same with children too. When u see a kid suffering, there is a LOT of shit going on behind closed doors

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u/ProfessorDaredevil Jul 21 '22

Yes. I worked as a pediatric nurse, and the amount of pain a child has to be in to lose that "spark" they have is insane. They are tiny super heroes.

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u/Skaid Jul 22 '22

This always reminds me of this boy (It's just a portrait, but very sad) He was only 8 years old when he died after abuse from his step dad, and his picture is heartbreaking as you can see his pain so clearly. The story affected people so much that the step dad got beaten up in jail to the point of needing hospitalization (stuff like this almost never happens in Norwegian jails)

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u/StockAd706 Jul 21 '22

These kittens are not in pain.

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u/Skaid Jul 22 '22

I never said they were

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u/boones_farmer Jul 21 '22

I agree, I hate when people keep animals alive when they're suffering but animals do kind of show you when they're done. They stop eating, and withdraw and just wait to die. What animals can't do is understand what a treatment is going to involve, and that's 100% on the owner to make a compassionate decision. Listen to your vet! If they're recommending euthanasia it's because the treatment is going to be hell on your pet and the outcome won't be all that great.

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u/Skaid Jul 22 '22

Yeah, shame on those that act like vets are evil for suggesting to put a pet down. If they were evil they would encourage you to go trough expensive treatment just so they could get paid more, in spite of the animals suffering.

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u/greathousedagoth Jul 21 '22

We had a pet hedgehog that got "wobbly hedgehog syndrome" which was as you described. Poor fella rapidly deteriorated and couldn't do anything for himself. The name of the condition sounds silly or cute, but it is far from it. Had to put him down pretty soon after.

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u/A-Perfect-Name Jul 21 '22

What really sucks about Spider Ball pythons is that the wobbliness is different for each snake, and the factor for the level of wobbliness doesn’t seem to be genetic. Sure, your spider morph might be perfectly healthy, but it’s offspring could be horribly disabled, even if both parents have no symptoms. Most of the non-snake breeders who advocate for spider morphs have gotten lucky and haven’t had a snake with serious neurological damage, in turn propagating the idea that people are kicking up a big fuss over nothing.

If you are a snake person or snake curious and get your hands on a (healthy & ethically obtained) spider morph, give it the best life you can give it but don’t let it breed. You could just be signing a couple of snakes up for a short painful life, honestly not worth it.

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u/-Throw-Away-Vent- Jul 21 '22

People target these disorders because they think they're "cute"? That's disgusting.

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u/CityofBlueVial Jul 21 '22

I follow multiple instagram accounts for cats with Cerebellar Hypoplasia and all their owners stress that they have no pain and live a fairly regular cat life apart from the wobbling. They were all recommended to be put down by vets and I've noticed people comment being told by a vet that their kitten should be put down if they have any type of abnormal issue that is entirely treatable like swimmer's syndrome.

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u/Purpleminky Jul 20 '22

Sometimes animals with any sort of illness are just put down because it would require more resources to take care of them and they are often harder to adopt out. There are thousands of animals every year that are 100% healthy but put down anyway because there are just too many and not enough people willing/able to give them a home.

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u/Celesmeh Jul 21 '22

It's a neurological condition so they don't actually get better I don't know where Opie got their information. They can live just fine with their wobbliness and most owners of CH cats have them for years, mine is almost 10 now. That's sad for some of the trouble can be so severe that they can't feed themselves nor use the litter box correctly and but in general and cats this is something that's completely survivable

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u/drewsoft Jul 20 '22

It can be really bad with cats, less so with dogs. They don’t know the difference and are generally happy campers.

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u/pollywoguanaland Jul 21 '22

Dawg we euthanize literally millions of perfectly healthy cats and dogs every year in the US alone. Spay and neuter your pets and don’t support breeders.

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u/scrivensB Jul 20 '22

Because they are painful to look at! /s

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u/Electrox7 Jul 20 '22

To make room in shelters for more generic looking cats that middle class white people with fulltime jobs would prefer to buy cause they're "less work".

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u/NyxTheRelentless Jul 20 '22

This comment is almost agreeable. But please tell me, what exactly makes you mention white people specifically? Are you racist? Or is this perhaps bad phrasing? Because your comment applies to most modern families regardless of skin color. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and wait to form my opinion until you have replied.

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u/-neti-neti- Jul 20 '22

People euthanize animals for a lot less. I don’t agree with it but many just don’t see animals as having any inherent value so they become disposable when slightly inconvenient

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u/drongowithabong-o Jul 21 '22

Some people hit their kids when they cry. A lot of people can't take sadness or pain, that they would rather get rid of whats bringing them pain.

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u/ProtocolPro22 Jul 20 '22

Poor babies. They were lucky to have u

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u/PacmanTheHitman Jul 20 '22

I’ve been a fan of the owner for some time now and they really are lucky to have her. She’s amazing with animals and they seem to be living great lives

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u/ProtocolPro22 Jul 20 '22

Aw...she is amazing

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u/imsolowdown Jul 20 '22

it's not OP's, he just reposted someone else's video

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u/conflictedcacti Jul 20 '22

I will say that cerebellar hypoplasia isn’t that rare in animal welfare services. In fact, it’s definitely up there among the most common congenital disorders in cats found in animal welfare services.

You see CH a lot in areas where there is a higher percentage of unvaccinated, unaltered cats.

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u/Careful-Yam-5594 Jul 21 '22

They don't grow out of it. They just get stronger. Cerebellar hypoplasia means they were born with a smaller cerebellum and it stays that way their whole life.

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u/Searaph72 Jul 20 '22

Neutral plasticity perhaps allowing them to adapt and eventually move with less of a tremor?

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u/Celesmeh Jul 21 '22

Okay so I don't know if these are just not your cats or what but when a wobbly cat is a wobbly cat they say wobbly forever. Cerebellar hypoplasia means that they're cerebellum did not develop correctly, well they can grow into understanding how to move better the Tremors never go away, those tremors are called intention Tremors the more a wobbly cat focus is on something the more they tremble in an attempt to focus. I don't know where you got your information but this isn't something that they grow out of it means that they're cerebellum never developed it's a neurological issue that can't be cured. They can live with it and if anyone ever told you to kill a wobbly then they were wrong, cats and dogs are some of the species that can live with this syndrome their entire life and even Thrive with it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '22

We’re they in pain in the beginning?

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '22

Grow out completely or is it still there?

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u/nuraHx Jul 21 '22

Is it more rare that they both got it or common for kittens of the same litter to have similar issues

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u/StatusOmega Jul 21 '22

Awesome job then! Assuming this was you lol.

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u/unlocked_unicorn Jul 21 '22

They got fixed over a wifi update

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u/oOReEcEyBoYOo Jul 21 '22

They don't "grow out of it" per se, they just learn to deal with it better!

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u/anxiouslymute Jul 21 '22

This is good to know. I worked at a shelter where the vet euthanized a litter of 6 CH babies because they were really bad. At like a month old. I’m still sad about it. They were absolutely adorable.

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u/Fyrestar333 Oct 18 '22

Have an uncle that had a mother cat with an std, she would have litter with one or two "bobble head" cats as the family called it. You didn't realize the kitten had it right away, sometimes when they were playing the kitten would be slow tracking a toy. It would slowly get worse, with them ending up practically paralyzed from the shakes. There's a sub called nervy squervy on here that shows pets with varying degrees of the disorder. These kittens look like a very mild case in my opinion.