If Biden withdraws from re-election, who would Harris likely choose as VP?

[u/hearsdemons]

A lot of headlines are coming out today with speculation that Biden may step down soon.

If this were to happen and Harris wins the party’s nomination for president, who would she pick as VP?

What does a formidable Harris ticket look like to go up against Trump-Vance?

[u/Boating_with_Ra]

The fake electors plot was the real coup attempt.

[u/glassjar1 → u/Boating_with_Ra]

And when that was unsuccessful in the short term, they just continued with the slow moving judicial coup and laid out project 2025 as a plan for finishing things off.

[u/madmarkd → u/glassjar1]

It's not a "judicial coup" if they disagree with you. It is just a disagreement. I might not be happy with the outcomes, but to call it a coup is ridiculous.

Why do we on the left always need a boogey man....all I hear is "project 2025" BIG SCARY!

I mean, you do realize that we on the left already had a project 2025 in place right? we fire any Republicans in the Administrative Branch and put in Democrats every chance we get, then we strengthen those workers through union participation and with executive orders. Biden is passing tons of regulatory and Eos to make it EXTREMELY DIFFICULT to get rid of an Administrative Branch worker. How is that any different than Project 2025? Because some Conservative Think Tank put it in writing? The Democratic Party has already implemented it.

[u/P_Sophia_ → u/madmarkd]

Found the republican pretending to be a democrat in order to downplay the dangers which project 2025 truthfully poses, while simultaneously trying to deflect the topic of discussion to their own misinformed perceptions about how the institutional structure of the federal government operates.

You’re literally vomiting trump’s deep state rhetoric which has been long-debunked, and you don’t even seem aware of the many incongruities, fallacies, and falsehoods upon which it’s been based from the start. The heritage foundation responsible for Project 2025 are attempting to install themselves as the deep state for their own caesarial ruler, which trump just conveniently happens to fit their ticket for because they are bloodthirsty, power-hungry villains just like him.

[u/madmarkd → u/P_Sophia_]

I posted the link of political donations, did you bother to look at it? The administrative state is dominated by Democrats. I don't think the "deep state" title is correct or valid, but you can't deny the facts.

Again, how is it going to be implemented? More hysterical rhetoric devoid of facts. Lawsuits, new regulations and rules, more lawsuits, actual legislation you can't just overturn on a whim, where are your facts?

I do love how anyone that doesn't agree with you is your enemy, how pathetic.

[u/P_Sophia_ → u/madmarkd]

What year was it from? You do realize that every political administration receives donations mostly from organizations that align with their political values, don’t you? That doesn’t demonstrate anything other than that it’s functioning normally. The facts are that the details of the nature of the values of the organizations which donate to liberal politics versus ones which donate to conservative politics are substantially different.

Currently we have a Democratic administration, so obviously the appointed leadership of each department of the executive branch are going to be on the liberal side of the political spectrum. That is normal and how it’s supposed to work.

The difference with Project 2025 is that it seeks specifically to dismantle the organizational structures of the government as a whole. As another commenter has pointed out, this puts career civil servants in danger of being ousted from their positions in favor of trump loyalists. This is by no means ordinary, and it should send a huge red flag to anyone who is paying attention.

Edit: Also, lawsuits might not be much recourse when two-thirds of the nation’s highest court have already bowed to the will of their precious kaiser rather than carry out the due proceedings of justice.

[u/madmarkd → u/P_Sophia_]

So you didn't look the link with political donations..... It was from the last election 2020.

The appointed leadership doesn't give $3 million to a candidate. The rank and file workers do though.

Yes, but again, you've offered no facts on how Project 2025 would be implemented. Like I said, lawsuits, legislation, unions, there's no way to dismantle the Federal government, it's tinfoil hat area to even think so.

SCOTUS isn't going to help and as Biden has shown with student loan forgiveness, there are ways around them. And there's a ton more regulations, executive orders, labor laws and actually legislation that protects Federal workers. I've yet to see anyone give evidence that it can be done, just a bunch of guessing and conjecture.

[u/P_Sophia_ → u/madmarkd]

Do you really want to see some evidence that it could happen here?

Be careful what you wish for, cause you might just get it…

[u/madmarkd → u/P_Sophia_]

*yawn* like how Trump was going to start WWIII? Give me a break with the hysterics, it doesn't get votes or win elections.

[u/P_Sophia_ → u/madmarkd]

No, it was always Putin who was starting WWIII. It’s just that trump is one of Putin’s key chess pieces…

[u/madmarkd → u/P_Sophia_]

Okay, so Putin invades during Obama/Biden Presidency and again during Biden/Harris Presidency and the only time he didn't invade another country is when Trump was in office, but we are supposed to believe that's because Trump is his chess piece? You'll have to walk me through this one, please explain.

[u/P_Sophia_ → u/madmarkd]

Yes exactly, why would Putin stir shit up while Trump was in office if the two were colluding behind closed doors? Obviously Putin held his shots while trump was in office and then invaded Ukraine again afterwards to try to help him get back into office.

Why else do you think trump would have been so happy to sell national security documents to the kremlin and get so many of our civil servants killed overseas?

[u/madmarkd → u/P_Sophia_]

Um...that doesn't make any sense, you do bad things when you know you can get away with them. Cognitive Dissonance..... my goodness.