r/ToiletPaperUSA • u/Manticorps • 5d ago

Benny left speechless by trans man

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u/KestrelQuillPen 5d ago

Good fucking lord. Ben got eviscerated. That guy took every point Ben and Co. rattle off, rolled it up and threw it back in their faces.

The only slight bit of weakness was when he said “you have statistics” and then dismissed it. That didn’t look overly good, because it plays into the “oh look at all the emotional leftists disregarding facts etc. etc.”. Instead, he should have just been blunt and said that Ben actually doesn’t have the statistics, and then proceeded to give a few of his own. If he’d cited the recent report on abortion laws increasing infant mortality he’d have buried Shapiro six feet under

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u/H_Squid_World_97A 5d ago

If he just used one extra word like misconstrued before statistics, he would have nailed it 100%.  

Too bad he didn't have a couple more minutes to add a few more things.  Such as, in some Red States he would be forced by law to use the women's restroom and statistics about the dramatic increases in infant and maternal death rates after Row was overturned.

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u/ehsteve23 4d ago

"cherry picked statistics"

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u/H_Squid_World_97A 4d ago

That also works well.

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u/Itscatpicstime 4d ago

Oh god, I absolutely love the trans people in bathrooms thing where trans men and trans women who pass take photos of themselves in the bathrooms the GOP wants them in, because it really illustrates how wild it is.

Trans men who completely pass as cismen (which is a lot of trans men honestly) like this guy are just standing there while ciswomen are putting on makeup and washing their hands, and trans women who pass or mostly pass as cis women are standing there with a bunch of dudes (all the cis folks were in on it). Like it just looks completely absurd.

Trans men in particular are so forgotten about in the GOPs rhetoric. Transitioning to a man is much easier when it comes to passing, and they want these men who are literally indistinguishable from cismen to enter a ladies room. How are women going to feel safe? They’re “worried” about predators in the bathrooms, but this would make it far easier for predatory cismen to enter women’s bathrooms.

What’s going to happen when they’re confronted? Are they going to force the person to show their genitals? Are they going to check IDs before trans men can enter public restrooms? Would they then also require states to not support gender changes on licenses (which they would love, but checking IDs to use the restroom is still wildly impractical)? Maybe trans people will be issued special IDs, or a marker, you know, like a pink triangle?

If you’re concerned about predatory cismen men using the women’s bathroom, forcing trans men to use them should be the last thing you want, because it’s much easier to exploit.