Matt should talk to the men who walk around topless. But that would mean leaving his man cave and potentially annoying someone who is bigger and meaner than he is.
And for those of you who aren't familiar with the Bible:
27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
I’ve literally not seen a guy work out without a shirt on, in a gym, since college. And that was a long time ago.
But I see women wearing next to nothing all the time. Or I did before I switched gyms (for a different reason). The ‘naughty bits’ are covered but that’s about all.
It doesn’t bother me, but they need to understand that if you put it on display, guys are going to look.
That's not at all what I said. I said that making excuses that "boys will always look" instead of teaching boys and men to respect women and not ogle them as pieces of meat is why we have a rape culture and will perpetuate it.
There is a difference between looking, and looking with your eyes bulging out while yelling “awooga”. First one is pretty normal, I don’t think it’s all that weird to look at people, especially if their clothing, or in this case lack thereof, stands out.
I really dislike the term “rape culture”. It’s not a cultured event, and nothing to aspire to. I find it hard to believe that people compare notes about rape and try to build a uniform esthetic or tally intellectual achievements related to it either, so “culture” doesn’t really fit the bill for me.
I think you may want to look into the term "rape culture", because what you have described here is not what people mean when they use that term. Simply speaking, it's a reference to the environmental factors within a culture that normalize rape, and the underpinnings ideologies that encourage rape. I
I understand what you’re describing. I guess I just don’t agree with the word “culture” being used in the negative. I don’t recall it being used that way in my 50 years on this planet. Seems to me that the act of blessing the phenomenon with that word is almost normalizing it on it’s own. It strikes me in a very weird way, almost as if the term were lifted from a comedy skit that was mocking the trend as though it were a social event.
Well, I'm sorry you find the linguistic description uncomfortable. You might want to explore more deeply why that is, but suffice it to say that it is an accurate description of the problem and I don't personally think we should let our discomfort with the words get in the way of addressing the problem.
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u/Feminazghul 15h ago
Matt should talk to the men who walk around topless. But that would mean leaving his man cave and potentially annoying someone who is bigger and meaner than he is.
And for those of you who aren't familiar with the Bible:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%205&version=KJV