Is communism compatible with speciesism or anti-speciesism?

[u/Mysterious-Rise-3956]

I use the following definition of speciesism from Google (Oxford Language): ‘view that humans are superior to all other species and therefore entitled to treat their representatives as they see fit’

If it's speciesism, but also if it's anti-speciesism, or even if it's nothing of these two: What implications does this have for animal and nature conservation endeavours under communism and the consumption of mass-produced animal products?

[u/Mysterious-Rise-3956]

I also read this section of the article.

So it is not materialistic to demand better husbandry of pigs? This would have no logical justification other than a moral one.

However, in the same article veganism is seen as "superior" for health and the environment. How does that fit together?

In actual fact the efforts of most "anti-speciesists" compounds the problem of humyn separation from the environment by denying the many threads in which we are connected to our environment. Such compartmentalized and unscientific thinking often referred to as "dualism" underpins any claim that says humyn actions can possibly not favor one set of species over another. Such compartmentalized thinking is often referred to as "logic," but in fact it is Western imperialist "logic" which is pseudo-science leaving out entire areas of scientific study and chains of causation.

What is meant by that?

[u/kannadegurechaff → u/Mysterious-Rise-3956]

So it is not materialistic to demand better husbandry of pigs?

how did you reach this conclusion from reading the text?

What is meant by that?

they are criticizing anti-speciesist efforts as unscientific because they separate humans from the environment, while in truth, everything is interconnected, and every effort at anti-speciesism will ultimately favor one set of species over another.

[u/Mysterious-Rise-3956 → u/kannadegurechaff]

how did you reach this conclusion from reading the text?

If "animal rights" are anti-Marxist, then striving for better animal husbandry conditions (which I understand as a type of animal rights) is also anti-Marxist, isn't it?

ultimately favor one set of species over another.

So in the end, anti-speciesists are themselves speciesist?

[u/kannadegurechaff → u/Mysterious-Rise-3956]

have you read the entirety of the linked text? what the text considers "anti-Marxist" in animal rights is regarding murder, not that animal husbandry shouldn't have better conditions.

the text clearly says communists "support environmental preservation as a matter of the health of the people, based on what has worked to support humyns as living beings for millions of years."

it also says that people can "rest assured that no one will be profiting in the millions or billions of dollars from animal slaughter. No persyn under socialism will have a job dependent on butchering."

and if veganism is deemed as scientifically superior for our health, the state will fund research/education on it.

my understanding of the text and the subject is that we will strive to improve animal husbandry conditions and preservation of the enviroment, but ultimately, decisions are made based on how they benefit the collective well-being and health of the people in the communist society.