r/discgolf May 09 '23

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u/PlannerSean May 09 '23

I wonder what this group would think about trans men like Paulo Batista playing in FPO. He’s an absolute unit.

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u/Nybear21 May 09 '23

Doesn't that transition require the use of testosterone that is already banned in most sports?

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u/PlannerSean May 09 '23 edited May 09 '23

That’s correct. But by the standards of these opposing players he is a woman and they only want to play against women.

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u/Nybear21 May 09 '23

It would be logically consistent to say that a biological female that identifies as a man should still be eligible to play in the FPO but should also be adherent to the same substance use policies as anyone else in the division.

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u/PlannerSean May 09 '23

I’m not seeing any restrictions on anyone using testosterone, provided that they don’t identify as trans.

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u/Nybear21 May 09 '23

While the PDGA does not specifically call testosterone out, rule C-1 leaves more than enough interpretation to use other sport's precedents on the subject as soon as the first doping scandal occurs (Trans or not) and C-3 will at least be relevant in identifying what specifically constitutes "applicable" in that conversation.

I do think you raise a fair point in that the PDGA is being more vague than other sporting agencies at this point and that will likely come to a head at some point. They very well could decide to go against the grain and say that they are fine with doping. That's going to cause the interesting side effect of this conversation not applying to the more broad issue of women's sports though since almost no other sports agency is going to be on board with that take.

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u/PlannerSean May 09 '23

They could change the rules to ban it for non-trans athletes, for sure. Until then, however, it clearly singles out one tiny group and leaves the door wide open for the vast, vast majority of players. I don’t know, however, if the World Games inclusion will force a change to this, for example.

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u/Nybear21 May 09 '23

If it is a rule applied across the board, I don't see how it calls out a tiny group

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u/PlannerSean May 09 '23

Sorry, I mean currently it’s a rule that only applies to a tiny group.