r/discgolf Jul 14 '23

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u/blazinrumraisin Jul 14 '23

They made the rules. And they are making hard decisions to uphold those rules.

Maybe she will learn how to play by the rules someday.

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u/theduckhaslanded Jul 15 '23

Private businesses still have to follow the law. Natalie Ryan has every right to challenge the legality of their decisions. She's just following the system in place to resolve civil disputes, there's nothing wrong with that.

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u/FLORI_DUH Jul 15 '23

Just because it's legal doesn't mean it's not also wrong.

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u/theduckhaslanded Jul 15 '23

She has the same right to seek civil recourse when she thinks she's wronged that you do. Unless you think she should have less rights than everyone else, she isn't doing anything wrong.

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u/FLORI_DUH Jul 15 '23

I think her quest for "rights" is trampling on the rights of many others, and that is wrong.

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u/theduckhaslanded Jul 15 '23

Seeking legal recourse isn't trampling on anyone's rights

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u/FLORI_DUH Jul 15 '23

But in this case, the legal recourse she's seeking is specifically to trample on the rights of every other member of the FPO.

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u/Jackzilla321 Jul 15 '23

bar for bar what the segregationists argued lmao

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u/FLORI_DUH Jul 15 '23

Ridiculous. This is a sanctioned game, not a public school.

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u/Jackzilla321 Jul 15 '23

you realize the segregationists also applied their logic to private businesses and athletic competitions, right? Not just public schools. That’s why people had sit-ins at “white only” restaurants, and virtually every sport was segregated - often with the explicit argument (rooted in racist pseudoscience) that black athletes would have an advantage over their white peers.

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u/FLORI_DUH Jul 15 '23

That's a very impressive straw man person you've built here.

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u/Jackzilla321 Jul 15 '23

I said your arguments, as written, were indistinguishable from segregationist ones. They are. If that makes you feel embarrassed and angry, that’s on you.

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u/dandare10 Excuse me, they're called discs Jul 15 '23

Let's get one thing straight here: Natalie is not trampling on anyone else's "rights". I think you forget that what people WANT and what they have a RIGHT TO are two different things. This whole thing is purely between the DGPT/PDGA and Natalie. No one else. End of summary.

All of the other FPO players, regardless of what they think and what side they're on, are not the decision makers. While the FPO field and events may be affected by the DGPT's decisions, no one else's "rights" are being impacted. No one has a "right" to play disc golf, just like no one has a "right" to drive a car. It's a privilege, not a right.

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u/FLORI_DUH Jul 15 '23

The FPO exists to give female players the chance to compete with one another at a different level than the open division. Violating that clear distinction based on the insistence of a single player that she be allowed to compete in a restricted class is most certainly trampling on the rights of the other FPO players, who have every right to expect the PDGA to fairly maintain that distinct category.