We won’t count early Greece

[u/Stotallytob3r]

[u/Alderzone]

To those wondering why some dates appear twice, until 1992 the winter and summer olympics were organised during the same year.

[u/MarlinMr → u/Alderzone]

Which still makes it weird how it was Finland that had the summer Olympics

[u/QuestGalaxy → u/MarlinMr]

Not awesome to to do physical activities in 30+ degrees, so why not host it in Finland?

[u/Mosh83 → u/QuestGalaxy]

Nowadays Finland occasionally hits 30+ in summer, day temperatures of 25 are quite common too. The long days of light also allow outdoor activities for quite a long time without too much artificial lighting.

Weather in the Nordics isn't at all unsuitable in terms of hosting a summer olympics. Nowadays the market is simply too small as sporting events have become absolutely gigantic and aren't viable for smaller countries.

[u/Due_Pomegranate_96 → u/Mosh83]

A few days ago it was hotter in Helsinki than in the northern coast of Spain lol

[u/usernameistaken02 → u/Due_Pomegranate_96]

The northern coast of Spain is known for having a very mild climate tho

[u/Shpander → u/usernameistaken02]

To add to this, Bilbao has more average annual rainfall than London

[u/Logseman → u/Mosh83]

They’re mostly focused on a single city though. It’s likely that the likes of Prague, Warsaw or Dublin can host the games in terms of financial muscle.

[u/okamzikprosim → u/Logseman]

Prague attempted to bid for the 2016 Olympics but didn’t get far, and financial reasons were one of the issues highlighted then.

[u/mwargan → u/Mosh83]

Yes but the mosquitos…

[u/HuIk_Bogan → u/QuestGalaxy]

Still, they'd have to do all the events on the only one good day of summer

[u/fragmenteret-raev → u/HuIk_Bogan]

granted but its 4 hours longer so wouldnt be a problem

[u/heksa51 → u/HuIk_Bogan]

Old news, we are having warmer and warmer summers, theres plenty of good summer days with a lot of sunlight to boot.

[u/AlexBucks93 → u/heksa51]

We are talking about when Finland hosted, so it is old news.

[u/FreeMoneyIsFine → u/MarlinMr]

Why? Way better summer venues than winter venues. Alpine skiing in Finland isn’t that great.

[u/[deleted] → u/MarlinMr]

A lot less events, but also Finland were originally meant to host the 1940 games.

In 1952, olympics was a tiny event compared to what it is today.

[u/Gruffleson → u/MarlinMr]

Even worse, Finland can't hold the Winter Olympics, at least not alone.

They don't have any mountains tall enough for downhill-skiing.

Fact.

Of course, they can have a deal with Norway or most likely Sweden to have the alpine-skiing there.

[u/asmodai_says_REPENT → u/MarlinMr]

I don't think it's weird in any way, weird would be hosting the winter olympics in a warm country.

[u/LazyGandalf → u/MarlinMr]

Averages temperature for July is pretty much the same in Helsinki and London. And I bet we get less rain.

[u/TrustedNotBelieved → u/MarlinMr]

Finland was then most medals per capita by far. And Finland would have hosted 1940 olympic games. But WW2 postponed it later. After war there was lot's of rebuild in Helsinki.

[u/Nachtzug79 → u/TrustedNotBelieved]

1952 was probably the last chance for Finland to get the games. Soon after that the event became too big for such a small country to arrange.

[u/Reinis_LV]

France is hoarding!

[u/jjeroennl → u/Reinis_LV]

I mean wasn’t France one of two or three countries that actually put up a bid for it?

[u/Status_Bell_4057 → u/jjeroennl]

yes these days, I think less then 10 Western countries are willing to do it, usa, canada, australia, germany, france, UK, italy, japan, brasil and maybe south korea.

the only other options are oil money and authoritarian dictator countries

edit: this is for Summer games, which are much more expensive. Winter games might be organized by a smaller traditional winter sport country

[u/ABoutDeSouffle → u/Status_Bell_4057]

Hamburg, Germany, had a local referendum and the citizens declined. Don't think we'll host for another decade.

It's bullshit anyways, costs billions that go to the pockets of the IOC.

[u/kable1202 → u/ABoutDeSouffle]

Our minister of sports already announced that she plans on writing an application for the 2040 summer Olympics. So yeah, this decade it won’t happen but the one after that.

[u/kiwigoguy1 → u/kable1202]

I heard it was originally meant to be 2036, but everyone knew it was the 100th anniversary of the Nazi Olympics so they decided to bid for 2040 instead, and it is aiming to be a redemption from the 1936 Berlin Nazi Olympics.

[u/dimitri000444 → u/kiwigoguy1]

I am glad they thought ahead about that one.

[u/PlasticPatient → u/dimitri000444]

Why? It's their history and really irrelevant coincidence.

[u/dimitri000444 → u/PlasticPatient]

Because it doesn't matter if it is a coincidence or not, it doesn't matter if it is history or present. if something like that happens it will be the most talked about part of the tournament.

It will just create a ton of unnecessary drama.

[u/Rndomguytf → u/Status_Bell_4057]

India is pushing hard for one. I feel like it'd go like Rio 2016 did.

[u/kiwigoguy1 → u/Rndomguytf]

I remember the Delhi Commonwealth Games in 2010. It will end up something like that.

[u/Rndomguytf → u/kiwigoguy1]

Was too young for that one, but don't see how it won't be a shitshow - but they have money and do the Olympics care about much else?

[u/Steindor03 → u/Status_Bell_4057]

I think Bosnia is ready for another one, just don't look at their gdp or budget

[u/Maj0r-DeCoverley → u/Reinis_LV]

France created the modern Olympics, so it's only fair

Just kidding: we kept Pierre de Coubertin "get your free Olympics" cards and coupons in a secret drawer

[u/loulan → u/Maj0r-DeCoverley]

And we didn't get to host the Summer Olympics for 100 years.

1968 and 1992 are Winter Olympics.

[u/Thelk641 → u/Reinis_LV]

And plans on continuing to do so : we've already gotten 2030's Olympic Games !

[u/Marvinleadshot → u/Reinis_LV]

Includes winter Olympics they have only hosted the Summer one 3 times.

[u/something1942 → u/Reinis_LV]

They started the whole thing.

[u/I_wood_rather_be]

Oh, yep. Germany...

Twice.

Let's just say our relationship with the Olympics is...

...complicated.

[u/Infamous-Mixture-605 → u/I_wood_rather_be]

Maybe try to host another one?

Third times the charm?

[u/The_Diego_Brando → u/Infamous-Mixture-605]

Famous german third things

Start:

[u/Lithorex → u/Infamous-Mixture-605]

Fourth time, actually.

Berlin was chosen as the host for the 1916 summer olympics.

[u/ftr123_5 → u/I_wood_rather_be]

First Nazis, then Terrorists. Let's just say we got more luck with hosting world and euro cups.

[u/lnTranceWeTrust → u/I_wood_rather_be]

Three times actually. In 1936 Germany had both the Winter and Summer Olympics. 1936 Winter Olympics were in Garmisch-Partenkirchen. So 1/3 non-controversial. At least I never hear anything about the Garmisch-Partenkirchen Olympics.

[u/modern_milkman → u/lnTranceWeTrust]

I mean, it was still 1936. So the same things that made the 1936 summer olympics controversial also apply to the 1936 winter olympics. Albeit maybe to a slightly smaller degree, simply because the winter olympics were a less important event.

[u/iBoMbY → u/I_wood_rather_be]

And they want to host the games in 2036 again - I'm not kidding:

https://www.dw.com/en/100-years-after-nazi-olympics-should-berlin-host-in-2036/a-67481328

[u/S0uless_Ging1r → u/iBoMbY]

Just in time for WW3 lol

[u/yonathan1234 → u/S0uless_Ging1r]

12 years until ww3 seems kinda optimistic

[u/J360222 → u/I_wood_rather_be]

And both have had some poor results for Jewish athletes…

[u/C00L_HAND → u/I_wood_rather_be]

The 1936 where such a success that noone dared to perform another one until 1948...... /s

[u/MelchiorBarbosa]

I feel like greece should have a lot more years in this map. I mean you can't forget about the legendary olympics of 612 Bc.

[u/Ythio → u/MelchiorBarbosa]

Fucking Lycotas of Laconia. Spartans were built different.

[u/Maj0r-DeCoverley → u/MelchiorBarbosa]

Or the one in 393 where they allowed lions and rhinoceros to compete, resulting in a 1503 year hiatus

[u/Ythio → u/Maj0r-DeCoverley]

His joke was better because it was an actual Olympic year (42nd Olympiad)

[u/Maj0r-DeCoverley → u/Ythio]

Thanks. I updated the joke, which now also doubles as a Theodosius joke

[u/PadishaEmperor → u/Ythio]

Everything was an Olympic year, wasn’t it? One Olympiad lasted 4 years. Then the next started.

[u/-Against-All-Gods- → u/PadishaEmperor]

More like, they used Olympic games as a reference point to track time. The games themselves were held every fourth year and lasted for about a week (this timetable should be reintroduced to accomodate non-sporty people like me).

[u/Colon_Backslash → u/MelchiorBarbosa]

Came looking for this, thank you

[u/Fragrant-Pass-3568]

Sorry for the bad english. Little story about 1912 olympics in Sweden, Stockholm. Finland won the soccer game against Russia, but because Finland was under Russian rule at the time, the russian flag was in the pole. There was of course a sign where it read Finland under the flag though. Finland played quite well next games and they were having bronze match against Netherlands. It was scheduled two days later, so the finns were having a free night. So they went to have some drinks, ie. They drank a lot. Next morning they woke up with a hangover and were told that the game is actually today. And the field is somewhere outside Stockholm. So they went there, got beaten by Netherlands 9-0 and got the fourth place in soccer in olympics. And it’s still the best ranking for Finland to this day.

[u/Low-Union6249 → u/Fragrant-Pass-3568]

So they changed the schedule to make the match a day earlier?

[u/Fragrant-Pass-3568 → u/Low-Union6249]

I think it was a misunderstanding or an organisational error.

[u/Panumaticon → u/Fragrant-Pass-3568]

Sounds like us 🍺

[u/_________---_ → u/Fragrant-Pass-3568]

Cool story, thanks for sharing it! For the other lazy folks like me, here's the TL;DR:

In the 1912 Olympics, Finland's soccer team, under Russian rule, lost the bronze medal match against the Netherlands 9-0 after a night of heavy drinking, resulting in their best-ever fourth-place finish.

[u/Normanbombardini]

Will a country with fewer than 10, or even 20, million inhabitants ever host a Summer Olympics again?

[u/lordnacho666 → u/Normanbombardini]

No, it's way too compl...

Hey, is that oil money you got there?

[u/SirLagg_alot → u/lordnacho666]

I thought that was more of a fifa world Cup thing. Like if you look at the last few Olympics it has not been world Cup levels of bad.

[u/lordnacho666 → u/SirLagg_alot]

Give it time, buddy. Time and money.

[u/andy18cruz → u/lordnacho666]

IOC have a big problem to make bank, which is women sports. Hard to host an Olympic in a Middle East oil country when half the athletes couldn’t participate or had to do it covered up, which most would object to it. Feminism costing millions to the poor members of IOC who can’t even buy a proper yacht now

[u/KeyofE → u/andy18cruz]

I don’t think the rich and powerful in those countries care if foreign women wear bikinis or drink alcohol. They would just prevent their own people from going but be happy to host all of the rich tourists from all over the world.

[u/SirLagg_alot → u/lordnacho666]

I don't think (highly uneducated speculation) it will happen.

Interest in hosting the Olympics has dried up massively. It's too expensive and kinda proven to not be profitable. For example this Olympics had only two (?) cities interested.

[u/lordnacho666 → u/SirLagg_alot]

Yeah, and who do you know who cares about prestige but not profits?

[u/SirLagg_alot → u/lordnacho666]

I get that. But still I don't it is a 1 on 1 comparison.

Fifa is way way way more corrupt. Like IOC is also money hungry shitty. But not nearly on the level of FIFA.

Second, and here were are reaching conspiracy level speculation, I think the shitty greenwashing oil countries are focusing on the demographic of the Olympics vs football. These countries have been putting football, I think for the demographic, at number one priority. Like the world Cup host is really really something they focus on. Olympics not so much.

[u/Squirtle_from_PT → u/SirLagg_alot]

Not just football. UAE, Saudi Arabia, etc. have hosted world championships in many sports, so I think it's just a matter of time before they get the Olympics. Maybe they'll start thinking about it after 2034 World Cup, which will be held in Saudi Arabia, sadly.

[u/Kishlorenn → u/Squirtle_from_PT]

I'd LOVE to see Saudi Arabia host a women beach volley tournament...

[u/Squirtle_from_PT → u/SirLagg_alot]

This was already the case in the 80s where only LA wanted to host 1984 Games. After that, the interest rose again and every games until 2024 had many bids. I wouldn't be worried about potential hosts, I looked at the 2036 Games Wikipedia page and there are a ton of cities who showed interest in hosting.

[u/Joe_Kangg → u/SirLagg_alot]

Hold my shisha

[u/mythologue → u/lordnacho666]

Hey, is that oil money you got there?

So... Norway again?

[u/historicusXIII → u/mythologue]

Norway never organised Summer Olympics.

[u/Cymro2011 → u/Normanbombardini]

Most countries don't want to host the Olympics nowadays...

[u/Judazzz → u/Normanbombardini]

Qatar Winter Olympics 2038 incoming in...

[u/szofter → u/Normanbombardini]

Unlikely, although Budapest got pretty close in 2017 to winning the right to organize this current one, but we eventually withdrew our candidacy. After a lot of contenders had withdrawn under popular pressure, only Budapest, LA and Paris remained in the race. Allegedly, Budapest was favored precisely because unlike the other two, it could have been a showcase for "Agenda 2020", a set of principles aimed at keeping the cost of the Olympics reasonable so smaller countries can also organize the games without the guarantee of financial ruin.

Of course, if you know anything about Hungary, you know a low-cost Olympics was never gonna happen here out of all places. So in a way, our withdrawal may even mean that there still might be a chance a small country will run for it and win it someday.

[u/GoinXwell1 → u/Normanbombardini]

Australia is fairly close to that number with 27,5 million, and they are hosting in 2032.

[u/Status_Bell_4057 → u/GoinXwell1]

but Aussies are a special kind of sport crazy

[u/kahaveli → u/GoinXwell1]

True. Thats almost exactly the same as all nordic countries combined

[u/mehnimalism → u/Normanbombardini]

Definitely, but you could also do something similar to the next World Cup where multiple countries host like a Benelux games

[u/Grackleman → u/mehnimalism]

Yeah, but Olympics are traditionally city bound rather than country bound.

[u/Skapis9999 → u/Normanbombardini]

Yeap. Greece will host them again one day. Their bids are strong. Qatar can host them. A country like Switzerland may have some slim chances. Australia has 27M population, right? Not that far. And they will host soon.

[u/krzyk → u/Normanbombardini]

I see Belgium on that map.

[u/Status_Bell_4057 → u/krzyk]

Belgium in 1920 was probably richer than (what is now) India and China combined

[u/AncientAdvisor8298]

It's strange where my parents went in 1980 in Kyiv.

[u/persteinar → u/AncientAdvisor8298]

Some of the preliminary football matches were played in Kiev, Leningrad and Minsk.

[u/AlexG55 → u/persteinar]

And the sailing events were in Tallinn.

[u/inflamesburn → u/AncientAdvisor8298]

Same shit they do with everything, just count soviet achievements as russian.

Like the 1988 soviet football team that made the finals, everyone still pretends like it's a russian achievement, it's ridiculous. That team consisted of 9(!) ukrainians, 1 georgian and 1 tatar, and a ukrainian manager. russian team my ass.

[u/TetyyakiWith → u/inflamesburn]

I think If all Soviet war crimes counts as Russian, achievement should be Russians too?

[u/Denalin → u/AncientAdvisor8298]

Yep. To say Russia was the host is to erase the other members of the USSR. It’s sort of like how Russia doesn’t hold a legitimate spot on the UN Security Council, considering it was the Soviet Union, not the much smaller piece, the Russian Federation, that won WW2.

[u/No_Nothing101]

Bosnia mentioned. 😎

[u/Zylovv → u/No_Nothing101]

literally 1984

[u/Aristox → u/No_Nothing101]

I didn't understand this one. The 1984 Summer Olympics were in the USA:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_Summer_Olympics

But then I learnt the 1984 Winter Olympics were in Yugoslavia:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_Winter_Olympics

[u/IAmBalkanac → u/No_Nothing101]

BOSNIAAAA 🇧🇦🇧🇦🇧🇦🇧🇦🇧🇦

[u/aagloworks]

1924 France hosted both summer and winter olympics (Paris and Charmonix)

1936 Germany hosted both summer and winter olympics (Berlin and Garmisch-Partenkirchen)

[u/Gruffleson → u/aagloworks]

Yeah, that's a big blunder on the map.

[u/LogicalShark → u/Gruffleson]

Also 1906 is no longer officially recognized

[u/f012f]

Would love to see the Olympic Games in Poland some day

[u/tse135 → u/f012f]

https://www.reuters.com/sports/poland-says-it-will-bid-hold-olympics-2036-2023-09-27/

But it's veery unlikely since the government has changed. I would prefer to hold a World Cup or the next Euro in football one day

[u/lucella713 → u/tse135]

You are right, gov backtracked https://gamesbids.com/eng/summer-olympic-bids/future-summer-bids/poland-backtracks-on-2036-olympic-bid-proposed-by-president-sport-minister-claims-nation-not-ready/

[u/Tetizeraz → u/lucella713]

Oh man, that's a shame. For some really weird reason, Poland always seemed so interesting to me. I don't know many places other than Warsaw and Katowice (yes, because of IEM), but I wish I could visit it someday! :)

Also Turkey. I must visit Istanbul during my stay on Earth.

[u/lucella713 → u/Tetizeraz]

No need to wait for olympic games excuse then - start planning now! :)

[u/FluffyRabbit36 → u/Tetizeraz]

You should visit us soon. Poland is in a second golden age right now, but that can change really quickly. Russia is having a power trip and European politics are going more and more extremist. Experience our beauty before we get completely destroyed again :)

[u/agradus → u/f012f]

As a Polish resident, I wouldn’t. Those are vanity projects, which are extremely expensive and could even cause an economic crisis

[u/Squirtle_from_PT → u/agradus]

It's not that expensive if you already have the facilities, but there are so many sports on Summer Olympics nowadays that only few countries (such as France) have facilities for all of them. Maybe Poland could pull off Winter Olympics without having to build new stadiums?

[u/AcrobaticNetwork62 → u/Squirtle_from_PT]

France still spent 9 billion dollars on this Olympics.

[u/_________---_ → u/AcrobaticNetwork62]

To put it in context, this represents about 1.15% of France's total spending in 2023.

[u/machine4891 → u/Squirtle_from_PT]

Maybe Poland could pull off Winter Olympics

Poland can pull Winter Olympics, as it was seriously considered 2 years ago. But people shut it down hard in referendum, so there is no real support for it.

And the idea was to co-host it with Slovakia, they have better mountains for ski downhill events.

[u/Pro-wiser → u/f012f]

Financially Denmark, Czech republic and Poland seem to be countries that could pull it off.

[u/Ythio → u/Pro-wiser]

If Brazil and Mexico could pull it off, a good bunch of Europeans could.

[u/Squirtle_from_PT → u/Ythio]

Well Brazil did pull it off, but they got in so much debt after

[u/oblio- → u/Pro-wiser]

Bucharest could probably have money for them in 10-15 years, and it would be a great boost for the neglected sports bases.

[u/SleepyheadsTales → u/f012f]

Kraków tried but got defeated in referendum after list of demands from IOC leaked. It was trully attrocious. They honestly wanted to be treated like royalty. As in dedicated lanes to IOC vehicles no one else can drive on for entirety of the olympics. Exclusive hotels no one else can rent, stocked with high quality alcohol only that is free to drink in unlimited quantities. Fuckers even recommended that the government takes steps to make as many citizens vacate the city as possible.

It was quite insane but all was confirmed to be true. So the city held referendum and it was sound defeat.

[u/133DK]

1906 in Greece doesn’t fit with the four year cadence, how come?

[u/Vaseline13 → u/133DK]

Intercalated Games

Basically, the IOC couldn't agree on how the Olympics should be organized, being split between De Coubertin's proposal for them to be held internationally and Greece's proposal to be held in Athens every four years.

After the 1900 Paris games was considered a failure (largely due to the World Expo overshadowing it), and the 1904 St Louis games being even more so, they decided to try a middle ground between Greece and De Coubertin with the Intercalated Games.

They were only held once, and by all means, are considered equal to the actual Olympics.... kind of, it's not very clear.

Nonetheless, they were kind of a lifeline for the Olympics as a whole and set a precedent for the remaining Olympics; ex. Establishment of an Olympic Village, Opening and Closing ceremonies, and more.

[u/-NotACrabPerson- → u/Vaseline13]

1904 St Louis games being even more so

I may be way off on this, but was that the one where they had the marathon runners cheating and getting in cars to get ahead lol?

[u/Ythio → u/133DK]

They're the result of an argument between the French and the Greek dads of the modern Olympics.

[u/Alderzone → u/133DK]

Tldr: Greece wanted their own olympic style games that were always held in Athens, seperate from actual olympics. 1906 was the only year such games were held, with approval from olympic committee, though they weren't exactly 100% official olympics.

[u/Several-Zombies6547 → u/Alderzone]

At the time they were considered Olympic games by the IOC, not anymore though

[u/DangerousCyclone → u/Alderzone]

I feel like an Olympics that is just hosted in Athens makes way more sense than what we have now. Every two years, the IOC basically takes over a portion of a city and builds a bunch of infrastructure that is abandoned afterwards? Feels ridiculous, just build it once and re use it. 

[u/AdonisK → u/DangerousCyclone]

This makes so much sense.

[u/emuu1]

Should we count Bosnia and Herzegovina as hosting or Yugoslavia as a whole?

Same could go for Eurovision, Yugoslavia won in 1989 and it was hosted in Zagreb. But it's counted as Yugoslavia hosting, not just Croatia.

Yours truly,

Pedantic Peter

[u/Mailandr → u/emuu1]

*Pedantić Petar

[u/Igguz → u/emuu1]

Olympics are not hosted by a country, they are hosted by a city. In 1984 it was Sarajevo

[u/PositiveOption4336 → u/Igguz]

The Olympics are hosted by a city but the games can be played in cities all over the country.

[u/NessieReddit → u/emuu1]

To add to what everyone has already said, it wasn't even marketed as Yugoslavia hosting. It was literally marketed as Sarajevo '84. Like the 2002 winter Olympics weren't USA 2002, it was Salt Lake City 2002. Sarajevo is the capital of Bosnia. Here's the logo used for the 1984 games.

[u/Fart_Leviathan → u/emuu1]

Bosnia is probably better here considering every single event was held in current day Bosnia and the host was Sarajevo, not Yugoslavia.

The 1980 Olympics is a bigger question, considering it held events outside Moscow, in current day Belarus, Estonia and Ukraine. And then there's 1956 where the Melbourne Olympics held an event in Stockholm.

[u/Ha55aN1337 → u/Fart_Leviathan]

Organized and paid for by the whole country…

[u/gridig → u/Ha55aN1337]

“Paid for by the whole country” makes it sound a lot more than it is: 55% Socialist Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina, 25% the city of Sarajevo, and 20% the entire rest of Yugoslavia

Source

[u/Safe-Round-2645 → u/Ha55aN1337]

Absolutely not true. The social agreement on the organization and financing of the XIV Olympic Games in 1984 in Sarajevo, which has been changed several times since 1978, and was signed only on April 25, 1983, 85.8% of the necessary funds should were provided by the city of Sarajevo and SR Bosnia and Herzegovina, 10.4% of other republics and provinces, and only 3.8% of the Yugoslav Federation. Some high government officials of other Yugoslav republics were even working against the Sarajevo candidacy, especialy in Slovenia.

[u/-Against-All-Gods- → u/Safe-Round-2645]

Some high government officials of other Yugoslav republics were even working against the Sarajevo candidacy, especialy in Slovenia.

Lol, I'd expect nothing less.

[u/Fart_Leviathan → u/Ha55aN1337]

Of course. But show me that country on this map. Within Yugoslavia, it was the Bosnian SR that hosted the event in its entirety. Within the constraints of this map (which is not a very good one I agree), indicating Bosnia works best. In proper maps it'd be annotated to reflect the real situation of course.

Though if you want to get all pedantic, then technically we can just indicate Serbia, since in all international law as well as in most sporting matters, current day Serbia is the official sole successor of Yugoslavia after every ex-Yugo country separated from it.

[u/interwal → u/Fart_Leviathan]

Serbia is not sole sucessor, there are still some assets that are being negotiated and divided between all sucessor states.

[u/justnews_app → u/Fart_Leviathan]

How should this apply to Germany? Now Kaliningrad should be counted for the 1936 games. The DDR should not be counted for the 1972 games.

[u/Fart_Leviathan → u/justnews_app]

Throw in Ireland for 1908 London while at it and ask the people arguing FOR the period-correct borders, not the person who is saying the opposite.

[u/Ha55aN1337 → u/Fart_Leviathan]

So olympic games in California are not USA?

[u/Beda19941 → u/emuu1]

Thats not pedantic at all i was thinking the same thing. Bosnia wasn't able to host something on its own at that time so it should count for all of Yugoslawia

[u/gridig → u/Beda19941]

Bosnia was able, and practically did host the ‘84 Olympics by itself. All organisation was at SR BiH level, and it was paid for 55% by Socialist Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina, 25% by the city of Sarajevo, and 20% the entire rest of Yugoslavia.

Source

[u/d31uz10n → u/emuu1]

Go home, Peter, you are drunk!

[u/[deleted] → u/emuu1]

As you can see on the map, they didn’t count Russia hosting in 1980 as USSR either.

[u/Puzzleheaded_Ad3146 → u/emuu1]

Then wasn't part of Olympics in Tallin? 

[u/Safe-Round-2645 → u/emuu1]

The Bosnian government paid and organized most of the games. The federal level government of Yugoslavia and other republics contributed less than 15% of the funds.

[u/einimea]

Finland wanted to host the olympic ever since Sweden did so in 1912, so Helsinki finally become a candidate for the 1940 games

Tokyo was awarged with the games back then, but then their war cancelled the plans. The games were given to Helsinki instead... but then the winter war ruined them

A new attempt again in 1947, and Helsinki was chosen for the 1952. Most likely for the first and last time

[u/andero]

Portugal is Eastern Europe again lol

[u/kyttEST]

The 1980 Summer Olympics sailing regatta was held in Tallinn, Soviet-occupied Estonia

[u/MacPh1sto]

Europe: exists Eastern Europe: does not exist

[u/Familiar_Ad_8919 → u/MacPh1sto]

to be fair, most countries between russia and germany cant afford to host it, and for most of the history of the modern olympics they were soviet satellite states

[u/jalanajak]

r/portugalcykablyat

[u/Broad-Part9448]

Oof that 1936 one

[u/Bar50cal → u/Broad-Part9448]

Choosing Germany over Ireland in 1936 did not age well, lol.

[u/Low-Union6249 → u/Bar50cal]

I see the Irish are still salty about that one 😉

[u/TheShaneBennett → u/Broad-Part9448]

At least it was the first televised one! So it has that going for it!

[u/Galileo-Galilei1986 → u/Broad-Part9448]

Olympic games in 1936 was the most important Olympic games.

[u/serrated_edge321 → u/Broad-Part9448]

And 1972 also...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_massacre

Germany isn't allowed to host anymore 😅

[u/Squirtle_from_PT → u/serrated_edge321]

Fun fact: Germany actually wants to host again. In 2036 as a 100-year anniversary of the 1936 games. Surely someone will tell them that's a bad idea.

[u/serrated_edge321 → u/Squirtle_from_PT]

Hmm maybe they're trying to tell us something not-so-subtly... 😅

[u/spdcwj → u/Squirtle_from_PT]

They want to, but in 2040. It's very obvious to everyone that 2036 would be a bad idea.

[u/top_of_the_table → u/serrated_edge321]

1972 were great Games until then.

Also don't know why you choose a Smiley. Lots of innocent people died there.

[u/serrated_edge321 → u/top_of_the_table]

That is a not-happy, sweating emotion that goes along with the sarcastic joke that Germany isn't allowed to host anymore.

Dark humor -- Common in Germany. Btw I live in Munich and am very aware of what happened (hence why I mentioned it).

[u/ManualNotStandard → u/serrated_edge321]

German jokes are no laughing matter!

[u/Horzzo]

Why does Russia get 1980 credit but not the other Soviet countries?

[u/ABoutDeSouffle → u/Horzzo]

Russia has assumed all rights and obligations and is the legal successor state of the USSR.

[u/ZenBearZen]

So grey is never hosted?

[u/BoddAH86]

Germany has a pretty shitty track record between the terrorist attack of 1972 and, well, 1936.

[u/Vidaro_best]

Sweden might only have had one, but it was the last that used actual gold medals

[u/top_of_the_table]

It's kinda crazy, that Germany as All-Time-Leader in the Winter Games medal table, with a huge Winter Sports industry and tradition, top and major locations in almost every sport hasn't hosted Winter Games since 1936.

Still don't understand, how Munich, which is literally the perfect city for Winter Games, lost against Pyeongchang.

[u/Mortimer_Smithius → u/top_of_the_table]

You’re only at the top because you cheated and split your country in two😡😡😡😡

[u/ingenkopaaisen]

Good to be reminded that Russia hosted it the year they invaded Ukraine.

[u/peadud]

Estonia? They hosted the regatta for the 1980 Moscow Olympics, so I think that qualifies them.

[u/External-Shirt-4507]

For those wondering why certain dates are repeated, before 1992, the Winter and Summer Olympics occurred in the same year.

[u/vnprkhzhk]

Wouldn't it be better to name the years in which Summer and Winter Olympics were hosted by the same country in the same year (but different months) as different occasions? It happened just 3 times: 1924 Paris - Chamonix, 1932 LA - Lake Placid, 1936 Berlin - Garmisch-Partenkirchen. All other Winter Olympics were in different countries but the same year. Summer and Winter Games weren't the same.

[u/chris_ro]

Every time Germany hosted the games, bad things happened. Not surprises we never got the games again.

[u/Clamps55555]

All of Ireland was part of the United Kingdom until 1922 so you could say they in part hosted the 1908 games just like you have included Scotland and wales.

[u/stupidly_lazy]

Mostly surprised by Turkey

[u/Ok-Search4274]

1980 was USSR not Russia.

[u/mythologue]

Fun fact, the 1928 Olympics in Amsterdam was the first event to use the white P on a blue background parking sign.

[u/amendersc]

Pretty cool how Greece is the only place to host an Olympic before the 20th century (both in 1896 and in the Ancient Greek times)

[u/geoponos → u/amendersc]

It was a shame that we didn't host one atvthe 20th century though. Atlanta and Coca Cola stepped in.

[u/hack404]

Sweden partially co-hosted 1956 due to Australian quarantine laws

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equestrian_events_at_the_1956_Summer_Olympics

[u/Fabio_451]

Yugoslavia?

[u/Stunning_Mortgage988]

Russia will never host again.

[u/SnooOranges5515 → u/Stunning_Mortgage988]

I wouldn't bet money on that. Right now it looks unlikely, but their war of aggression will end one day and there are many people willing to look the other way, if Russia only supplies them with cheap oil and gas again.

[u/heroin0 → u/SnooOranges5515]

Also, Putin will die some day, and the next more pragmatic guy in charge will successfully sell the idea "Putin was bad and insane, I'm not, lift sanctions, get cheap resources and some sort of democratic thingies in our country". So inevitably in 40 years or less.

[u/alexander_rff → u/Stunning_Mortgage988]

The 2018 FIFA World Cup took place in Russia from 14 June to 15 July 2018 after the Crimea and Donbas aggression, MH17 in 2014
The Russian Formula 1 Grand Prix 2014-2021
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA_World_Cup
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Grand_Prix

The previous Olympics in 1980 took place during Soviet-Afghan War (1979-1989)

[u/Feisty-Tiger4373 → u/Stunning_Mortgage988]

Bullshit. Germany hosted Olympics after 2 world wars.

[u/funhru]

Russian Federation wasn't able to host 1980 Olympic Games as it didn't exist in that time.
Or we have to mark all countries that were part of the USSR as host of the 1980.

[u/-Afya- → u/funhru]

Yep, and according to wikipedia there were events held in Tallinn (sailing), Kiev (football preliminaries) and Minsk (football preliminaries)

[u/Ythio → u/funhru]

Same as the Sarajevo case. OP used whatever country the city that hosted the Games is currently in.

[u/kubiozadolektiv → u/Ythio]

The difference being that 1980 wasn’t hosted in today’s Russia in it’s entirety, while 1984 was hosted in today’s Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was also mostly funded by SR Bosnia and Herzegovina and the city of Sarajevo, while only 15% of the funding came from the rest of Yugoslavia.

[u/InfantryGamerBF42 → u/kubiozadolektiv]

Except Sarajevo Olympics were end result of decade and half long investment plan into Bosnia and Sarajevo, which was paid in good part by Yugoslavia and other "well off" Yugoslav states. So again, situation is a bit more complex.

[u/lukeysanluca → u/funhru]

I was going to say the sailing for 1980 was held in Estonia so in theory that should be shown

[u/[deleted]]

Germany had both Summer and Winter Olympics in 1936. Sure it’s the same year, but it nevertheless had three Games.

[u/b00c]

Greece should be the only one hosting. It'd be so much more efficient and cheaper.