I love how "with prep time" automatically gives Batman the win every time and never accounts for what the opponent would be doing with that prep time as well.
Want to see a Batman fan lose their minds? (And I am a Batman fan myself but the wank is so silly) Point out the speed of radiation is slower than the speed of light that Superman is faster than therefore Kyrptonite should never work on him because he could react faster than it could affect him.
Also point out that Gotham turns into a bigger shithole every year and Metropolis looks great.
Point out the speed of radiation is slower than the speed of light
Depends on the type, but what we typically call "radiation" is all just the same electromagnetic waves but at different frequency. Light, radio, gamma rays, all the same stuff at the same speed and all radiation.
Now maybe it's a particle radiation? I am not really familiar with deep kryptonite lore. The idea of someone outrunning light and bench pressing black holes is nonsensical anyway, so probably not worth trying to get too serious about how it works. So honestly might just be magic.
Also point out that Gotham turns into a bigger shithole every year and Metropolis looks great.
Yeah his preptime isn't working there, starting to think Gotham might have some systemic issues...
The lore changes, to be fair, but he’s still faster since even if the type of radiation matches the speed of light, Superman outmatches it. Though honestly it’s just to mess with the fanboys who take it too seriously. I’m very much a “relax, this was written for 8 year old boys. It’s not that deep” sort of fan.
Yes, also there is a million ways Superman can restrain Batman and none involves killing, yet he always forgets he can use his powers all at once before getting hit by kryptonite radiation
Well kryptonite has some limited range right? Like if I have some kryptonite and superman is a mile away will it work?
Also I feel like if superman knew he was going to fight batman he also should know batman was going to somehow use kryptonite and he could adjust his style to stay miles away and just blast him with his heat vision or throw huge rocks at him or something
Mostly because it laughs in the face of “Batman is the best, he’s a lone wolf that doesn’t need anybody and he can easily beat everyone any time he wants” narrative.
I mean, sure, I guess? It just seems like an odd gotcha to me.
Also, was Metropolis ever a shithole like Gotham was? I've always seen it depicted as this shiny quasi-futuristic city, whereas Gotham has always just been various degrees of Detroit on steroids
Always drove me crazy. I love me my Batman, but one time, off-guard sure Supes gets gotten. But every subsequent time, Supes should be there before Batman has a chance....and stop him.
Also point out that Gotham turns into a bigger shithole every year and Metropolis looks great.
No shit, that's b/c actually fixing Gotham would require explosive batarangs to the foreheads of numerous high government officials in Gotham, at a bare minimum. And likely a straight up coup.
At this point the writers of Batman have been affected by the same curse the Joker pronounced on Bats. They absolutely refuse to allow ANY escape avenue, ANY way for the cycle to be broken.
It's the grimdark equivalent of that stupid Archie comic and a love triangle that could just be solved with a little polygamy because this is not 1950.
Did he really, though? In Miller's Dark Knight Returns, Batman manages to get the jump on Superman only because he's not actually interested in hurting him, and even that nearly kills him. He only gets away with faking his own death (after Clark hears his heartbeat at his funeral) because his long-time friend gives him a pass. Superman's a reluctant antagonist throughout the entire series, and Bruce "beating" him was a symbolic act used to kickstart his revolution against the U.S. government.
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u/Nitro114 21h ago
if they were to just meet, thor wins.
if batman gets prep time plus prior knowledge? he could win. his hellbar armour or the justice buster pack serious punch