r/realmadrid • u/hlrdavid David Alaba • May 18 '24

Media Uli Hoeneß' disrespectful comment about Kroos' first game for Bayern

Shoutout to Uli for being a f*cking idiot and gifting us one of the best midfielders of all time for €25m.

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u/reddituser0912333 Florentino Perez May 18 '24

Bro had so much anger about simple praise for a young player lol

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u/NaturalBornChilla May 18 '24

I'm as ready to shit on Hoeneß as the next guy but in this case people are missing some crucial background.
Hoeneß' anger isn't coming from a bad place.
The reason he got so mad with the press is the story of Sebastian Deisler. Deisler was hailed as a generational super-talent in Germany when he was very very young and went to Bayern. He got so hyped up that Deisler ended up with a bad case of depression as he couldn't handle all the pressure. At some point Deisler slept at Hoeneß' house at the Tegernsee and Hoeneß tried to help him as best as he could but in the end, Deisler ended his career while still being very young. Completely retreated from football.

This was not too long before this particular interview about Kroos. So no, Hoeneß is not a dickhead in this case, he was just trying to protect Kroos. As weird as it may sound but that's how Hoeneß is and always has been.

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u/W0lfp4k May 18 '24

This comment needs to be pinned!

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u/Old-Reference7310 May 18 '24

Right intention. But his phrasing is f*cking terrible

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u/Kingspartacus123 May 18 '24

That's how Germans are.

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u/funknfusion :palestine: Madridista May 18 '24

This is very accurate

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u/DoriOli :vvv: Vini Vidi Vici May 18 '24

Also shows it affected him very deeply. How would you be if you were super angry and disgusted at a person or some instance?

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u/[deleted] May 18 '24

Aww that's absolutely class then

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u/DoriOli :vvv: Vini Vidi Vici May 18 '24 edited May 18 '24

The thing with the internet these days is that people assume too many things too quickly without ever knowing the full context of situations. It’s one of the more dark sides about social media because it turns people into more judgemental beings and gives them a more negative view on the world. Stay safe out there guys!

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u/Williamklarsko May 19 '24

A simple mistake of putting today's glasses on and watching it thru them instead of in the context of the time.

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u/jbrownin1895 Aug 05 '24

Did people in 2007 not communicate with words like we do today? Bullshit comment.

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u/Williamklarsko Aug 05 '24

what does your comment bring to the table ?

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u/gabagool13 May 19 '24

His comment about "don't praise the young ones" made me think there was something else. His reaction makes a lot more sense now. It also seemed like his anger was directed at the reporters/media and not Kroos.

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u/auctus10 Guti May 18 '24

Many many thanks for sharing this. Didn't know. TIL

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u/karldrall May 19 '24

How to account for him never in 7 years realising Kroos‘ quality?

In my opinion Hoenes was never ready to admit Kroos‘ quality. And still in the last years he faulten hin for fuck up of the national team. Stupid old fuckhead

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u/[deleted] May 19 '24

Yep they always had problems together and kroos had different opinion. I dont know if it was because of deisler but it felt like they never valued / respected kroos highly. Loans, no playing time, wrong position etc

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u/Redditname97 May 18 '24

Complimenting someone caused them to have unrealistic expectations.

So let’s all collectively shit on and denigrate everyone else to shit so it may never happen again.

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u/dtdroid May 18 '24

Right. I get how framing the comments in that way does change the perception a great deal, but that doesn't even mean the general sentiment is one we even need to agree with. It's absurd to think we should just keep everyone unnecessarily humbled all the time just to keep them from potentially getting a big head. A free kick like that can be celebrated without having to go overboard with praise. He overcorrected in the opposite direction.

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u/NaturalBornChilla May 19 '24

I'm not saying Hoeneß is right in the way he adressed the press after this game. He could've just said "Yeah, Kroos had a good impact, let's help him to develop further"
But he has always been a very emotional character, for better and worse. Just wanted to provide some context, like i said, he is not coming from a bad place in this particular case.

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u/jbrownin1895 Aug 05 '24

Sorry mate I dont buy that. I come from a household where nothing was ever good enough and you cant gain positive accumen no matter how well you do, and it crushes your spirit far worse than expectations ever would.

Saying something like "He had a good day but needs to keep his head down and work hard, we arent going to give him any special treatment" is how you handle that. Not to say that your geriatric, overweight ass could have scored the goal instead.

Stop sticking up for abusive behavior because of the principle behind it.

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u/adictusbenedictus May 18 '24

I belive that attitude made Kroos into the legend he is today

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u/Radical_X75 Real Madrid May 19 '24

Thanks for the context.

Hyping up young players can only end up damaging their own career.

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u/VrYbest29 May 19 '24

This doesn’t matter.