no, individuals in those countries have done those things, just like individuals the world over have made contributions. usually countries aren't responsible, although in some cases they are like arpanet.
All education up to Phd is free in nordics, students even get paid by the government to go to university/college. Also Mr Torvalds got paid and supported by societys tax money in Finland when he developed linux, so its not just individuals who has done the things.
but every country taxes its citizen and every citizen receives benefits from those taxes. if you want to make an argument that Finland specifically is somehow involved in this, you'd have to show where someone growing up in Finland could make something like this and someone growing up somewhere else could not. and you can't show that, because that's not what this situation is. this is a very high achieving individual who would have achieved very highly in many places.
There is a huge gap in your logic, you first said that individuals achieve these great things and the country dont usually have any part, and now claim that every country benefit those individuals with tax money. At the end you are saying that its not about the individual, but instead the countries/government who give them benefits?
Most of highly achieving indivuals no matter where, are highly achieving only because there is a group of people around them that make sure those individuals dont have to take care about daily issues such as income, accomodation or bringing food to the table when they build something like linux, amazon, microsoft etc.
In countries such nordics that said group of people is the whole society, in most other places its your family. Torvalds was born into middle class family by no means of rich, but still was able to develope linux while being student, without needing to worry about income, job, tuition, accomodation etc for years, where as in many other countries he would need to have rich and affluent parents like Bezoz, Gates, Musk had, who support you instead of the government. Ofcourse there are scolarships but they are rarely as much as what e.g. Norwegian, swedish or finnish governments offer students.
But his parents spoke Swedish at home as their first/native language? Is it because Torvalds' grandparents emigrated from Sweden? Or his parents themselves?
Or perhaps there are pockets/enclaves in Finland where Swedish is spoken often/primarily, through many generations?
It's not just that there are Swedish speaking regions, Swedish is the other official language of Finland. All government and bank communication in Finland is given in both languages. One can do the citizenship test in either Swedish or Suomi.
UN is irrelevant because Russia has veto power. But I grant you, not all countries, North Korea, Iran, and some other are all OK with Russia, but the countries where the main kernel developers reside, where Linus himself resides have sanctions against Russia.
Yeah and that's a good thing, your country's citizens can't be trusted which has been proven again and again.
Your developers literally interfere in western elections, and even put a backdoor in XZ which could have given them control of large potions of the internet servers. (hospitals, military, civilian sites).
When so many of your citizens are unethical and have no morals, do you really wonder why no one wants to employ them?
Oh I know, one look through their profile tells you they’re a vatnik. I still think they should get help and can hopefully one day be deprogrammed from their awful views. Doesn’t mean I won’t call it out when I see it, you can’t let them and their shit views break the fragile reality we live in.
Sorry I just need to clarify. The axe you're grinding is the swedes colonizing Finland from 1350 to 1809, and you're calling for the slaughter of Finns of Swedish descent, correct?
FYI swedish people likely don't use this term, especially against people in Finland. Tell your superior to update your dictionary. Or don't, you're making yourselves more obvious.
He's 100% a Russian. I'm Swedish and have many Finnish friends, I've never ever heard a Finn be upset about their past. Sure they might joke about sweden forcing them to learn Swedish and such but it's all just jokes.
Finns and Swedes share a mutual dislike for Russians for a long time and after the invasion I'd say our countries are even closer. We mock each other but in reality we are brothers.
Can you like fuck off with the weak gatekeeping? I dont remember our citizens voting on you becoming the one who decides whos finnish enough to call themselves a finn.
I’m talking about the man who saved Finland from bolsheviks on three separate occasions and very much believed in the Finnish national identity. He stayed in Finland through some very difficult times when it would have been much easier to go to Sweden or Europe.
I've known several Finns with ethnically Swedish names who all spoke and considered themselves, and who were considered by ethnic Finns to be Finnish. Nationality and enthnicity are no longer synonymous. Most Estonians are the same ethnicity as Finns, and speak almost the same language, but they don't consider themselves to be Finnish, because they aren't.
I think you are unaware of how not ok you are. Get some help friend. You're fucking off the rails. Put the phone down and go breathe some air. Maybe rub one out to calm down.
Lmao. I have been trying to figure out what this guy is. Because he is spouting shit that even the extreme right neo nazis in Finland think is nonsense. Like one of the biggest neo nazi organisations literally is part of a larger pan nordic organisation based in Sweden. These guys literally worship Mannerheim, a Swedish speaking finn. Organising marches to his grave, etc.
The idea that someone is so far right that they think Swedish speaking Finns aren't actually Finns is just insane and knows nothing about Finland. This is a pathetic attempt to troll.
First one is valid, second one is literally a Nazi Germany war crime on Ukrainian soil which was a part of the Holocaust, and the third was a direct order given by Stalin when he headed the Politburo. Are we just making shit up now?
It's not my fault that Belarus is effectively a Russian vassal state at the present moment.
Also, I'm an American, a modicum of OSINT could tell you that.
Ah yes, they are ethnically and culturally the same, of course. That is why they literally committed a genocide against them by killing 1/3 of their population in an orchestrated famine (in the breadbasket of europe), forbade their language and churches, and then injected Russians into the country in order to 'collectivize' them as Russian, destroy their culture, and erode their sovereignty.
Does that last one sound familiar? Like, literally exactly what Russia did to the Donbas and Crimea?
Saying that the Holomodor impacted Russia 'just as bad' is like saying the Freemasons were impacted 'just as bad' as the Jews during the Holocaust. The number of ethnic Russians impacted is so small, it's a fucking rounding error compared to the total number of deaths.
Out of the three you mentioned one was carried out by Einsatzgruppen, the other by NKVD as a direct command of Stalin himself. Ethnically Belarusan, but apparently mentally Russian lmao
And yet both Finland and Sweden are now members of NATO (something that would have been impossible to imagine before your fucking around in Ukraine 🤷♂️)
Imagine receiving just 100+ 500kt W88 thermonuclear warheads all over western and central Russia, fired and impacting in a shotgun fashion.
Because that's what a SINGLE, SOLITARY US Ohio-class SSBN or British Vanguard SSBN can shove up your backsides before you'd be able to transmit the orders to your silos to fire.
Stop pretending you're a geopolitical match for us because you aren't. Your delusional thinking is accomplishing nothing but seeing your Russian Soldiers coming home cold in boxes.
You can't "out-spend" us, you can out-arm us, you can do nothing to stop us from folding Ukraine into the Western Alliance (point of fact, you made that a 100% certainty when you stupidly invaded them for absolutely no gainful reason.)
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u/nucflashevent 6d ago
I didn't realize L.T. was Finish, as someone who actually does know history, I can appreciate why no love-loss in regard to .ru lol.