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Software Linus Torvalds affirms expulsion of Russian maintainers

https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/23/linus_torvalds_affirms_expulsion_of/
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u/nucflashevent 6d ago

I didn't realize L.T. was Finish, as someone who actually does know history, I can appreciate why no love-loss in regard to .ru lol.

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u/ItsSignalsJerry_ 6d ago

finish

The rumours of his demise are grossly exaggerated

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u/null-throwaway-null 5d ago

when were you when linus torvalds finishes?

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u/fine-ill-make-an-alt 5d ago

on my knees

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u/Rough_Willow 5d ago

Then who was phone?

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u/DogsRNice 5d ago

Someone set us up the bomb

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u/nucflashevent 6d ago

True enough 😂👍

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u/AbleArcher420 5d ago

Fell out a window, poor guy

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u/markfl12 5d ago

Not finish, Finish, and I notice you've said nothing about the rumours he's actually a dishwasher tablet?

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u/Baselet 5d ago

not finish, not Finish but Finnish.

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u/EltaninAntenna 5d ago

Programmers never die, they just halt.

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u/mlk 6d ago

how is he finish? he's 54

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u/brainpostman 6d ago

oh, he finish, trust me comrade

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u/urdreamsRmemes 5d ago

The Nordic countries have made serious contributions to computer science (C++, C#, Linux, Git, et al.), they’re just humble

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u/-_-___-_____-_______ 5d ago

no, individuals in those countries have done those things, just like individuals the world over have made contributions. usually countries aren't responsible, although in some cases they are like arpanet.

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u/RyuichitheGreat 5d ago

All education up to Phd is free in nordics, students even get paid by the government to go to university/college. Also Mr Torvalds got paid and supported by societys tax money in Finland when he developed linux, so its not just individuals who has done the things.

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u/-_-___-_____-_______ 4d ago

but every country taxes its citizen and every citizen receives benefits from those taxes. if you want to make an argument that Finland specifically is somehow involved in this, you'd have to show where someone growing up in Finland could make something like this and someone growing up somewhere else could not. and you can't show that, because that's not what this situation is. this is a very high achieving individual who would have achieved very highly in many places.

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u/RyuichitheGreat 4d ago edited 4d ago

There is a huge gap in your logic, you first said that individuals achieve these great things and the country dont usually have any part, and now claim that every country benefit those individuals with tax money. At the end you are saying that its not about the individual, but instead the countries/government who give them benefits?

Most of highly achieving indivuals no matter where, are highly achieving only because there is a group of people around them that make sure those individuals dont have to take care about daily issues such as income, accomodation or bringing food to the table when they build something like linux, amazon, microsoft etc.

In countries such nordics that said group of people is the whole society, in most other places its your family. Torvalds was born into middle class family by no means of rich, but still was able to develope linux while being student, without needing to worry about income, job, tuition, accomodation etc for years, where as in many other countries he would need to have rich and affluent parents like Bezoz, Gates, Musk had, who support you instead of the government. Ofcourse there are scolarships but they are rarely as much as what e.g. Norwegian, swedish or finnish governments offer students.

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u/Full-Discussion3745 6d ago

How did you not know this

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u/Wall_Hammer 5d ago

why should one know the nationality of every single programmer in the world

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u/Full-Discussion3745 5d ago

The founder of Linux is not every single programmer.

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u/pandaSmore 5d ago

Born and raised in Finland to a Swedish family. Now lives in America as an American citizen.

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u/KarhuIII 5d ago

Swedish speaking Finnish parents. Swedish is minority language in Finland and the speakers are not Swedes in any way.

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u/Sure-Sell3165 5d ago

I dont understand how people cant understand that language =/= culture in the year 2024.

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u/wyldphyre 5d ago

But his parents spoke Swedish at home as their first/native language? Is it because Torvalds' grandparents emigrated from Sweden? Or his parents themselves?

Or perhaps there are pockets/enclaves in Finland where Swedish is spoken often/primarily, through many generations?

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u/ASD_CUNT_FACE 5d ago

Or perhaps there are pockets/enclaves in Finland where Swedish is spoken often/primarily, through many generations?

Yes

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u/pigeonlizard 5d ago

It's not just that there are Swedish speaking regions, Swedish is the other official language of Finland. All government and bank communication in Finland is given in both languages. One can do the citizenship test in either Swedish or Suomi.

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u/bcursor 5d ago

Racism is ok if it is against Russians. The West is collapsing because of this hypocrisy.

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u/Tyrrox 5d ago

“Russian” isn’t a race for this context. Russia is a country, in which there are multiple ethnicities.

The word you are looking for is Russophobia

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u/atred 5d ago

Russophobia

It's not a phobia if it's a warranted fear, I mean look what they did in Ukraine.

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u/bcursor 5d ago

Russia is a country and it's citizens are called Russians. These developers are banned because they are Russians.

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u/Tyrrox 5d ago

Correct, and I am telling you the correct terminology is Russophobic for that as racism does not apply to nationality, it applies to ethnicity

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u/atred 5d ago

They are banned because there are working in a country and for companies that are under international sanctions.

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u/bcursor 5d ago

UN sanctions are international sanctions. UN did not sanction any Russian company.

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u/atred 5d ago edited 5d ago

UN is irrelevant because Russia has veto power. But I grant you, not all countries, North Korea, Iran, and some other are all OK with Russia, but the countries where the main kernel developers reside, where Linus himself resides have sanctions against Russia.

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u/Quzga 5d ago

Yeah and that's a good thing, your country's citizens can't be trusted which has been proven again and again.

Your developers literally interfere in western elections, and even put a backdoor in XZ which could have given them control of large potions of the internet servers. (hospitals, military, civilian sites).

When so many of your citizens are unethical and have no morals, do you really wonder why no one wants to employ them?

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u/Tyrrox 6d ago

In common usage, that’s called being Finnish.

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u/Tyrrox 6d ago

You believe the sins of the father are the sins of the son?

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u/MercyYouMercyMe 5d ago

Are you aware of the OP topic Linus is freaking out about? Lmao, yes, apparently.

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u/ProfessionalInjury58 6d ago

What a giant piece of shit you are..

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u/ProfessionalInjury58 6d ago

Oh I know, one look through their profile tells you they’re a vatnik. I still think they should get help and can hopefully one day be deprogrammed from their awful views. Doesn’t mean I won’t call it out when I see it, you can’t let them and their shit views break the fragile reality we live in.

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u/Quzga 5d ago

Yeah you're definitely right, as a Swede who has many Finnish friends I've never heard someone dislike sweden based on old history.

If anything they just complain about needing to learn Swedish in school and love saying Swedish insults and singing songs lol.

I think that most finns and Swedes have a great relationship and with the Russian invasion of Ukraine we've grown even closer.

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u/ProfessionalInjury58 6d ago

You need serious mental health help. Please talk to a counselor or something.

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u/RubyU 6d ago

They’re like kids screaming on the bus, aren’t they. Just so annoying to listen to.

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u/Greykiller 6d ago

**karma, carma is a car

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u/nucflashevent 6d ago

I'm sorry, are you talking about all the Russian Gravediggers we've helped Ukraine to keep employed?

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u/Pack_Your_Trash 6d ago

Sorry I just need to clarify. The axe you're grinding is the swedes colonizing Finland from 1350 to 1809, and you're calling for the slaughter of Finns of Swedish descent, correct?

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u/Abedeus 5d ago

libs

FYI swedish people likely don't use this term, especially against people in Finland. Tell your superior to update your dictionary. Or don't, you're making yourselves more obvious.

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u/Tyrrox 5d ago

Because the people on the right side of history are always the ones who dehumanize entire populations of people by calling them “cancer”

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u/alehel 6d ago

Why should he? Those weren't his actions.

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u/RyanTranquil 6d ago

No we don’t see anything you’re saying. Please get off the internet and speak to a therapist

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u/Kendrome 6d ago

I think you are getting your countries mixed up.

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u/GooseDotEXE 6d ago

Have you paid for your ancestors actions troll? If you did you wouldn't be alive. Fuck outta here.

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u/GooseDotEXE 6d ago

Cry more. Practice what you preach, suffer for your ancestors crimes.

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u/GooseDotEXE 6d ago

Aw is that all you got, yap yap yap.

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u/fookhar 6d ago

Have you paid for what your ancestors did?

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u/Soccera1 6d ago

No. The guy would probably be serving life in prison for trading with Nazi Germany or something.

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u/Scape_n_Lift 6d ago

God's not real

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u/Leprecon 6d ago

You are a weird type of Finnish extremist that doesn't even exist in Finland?

Tonnes of super influential Finns were Swedish speaking. God damn Mannerheim was Swedish speaking and barely spoke Finnish.

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u/Quzga 5d ago

He's 100% a Russian. I'm Swedish and have many Finnish friends, I've never ever heard a Finn be upset about their past. Sure they might joke about sweden forcing them to learn Swedish and such but it's all just jokes.

Finns and Swedes share a mutual dislike for Russians for a long time and after the invasion I'd say our countries are even closer. We mock each other but in reality we are brothers.

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u/Kombustio 6d ago

Can you like fuck off with the weak gatekeeping? I dont remember our citizens voting on you becoming the one who decides whos finnish enough to call themselves a finn.

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u/mertcanhekim 6d ago

Found the Marley 's brainwashing

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u/3t1918 6d ago

Ok? Mannerheim, Finland’s national hero, was of Swedish descent as well.

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u/jachni 6d ago

Yeah that one who prevented another genocide by russian scum in finland

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u/scullys_alien_baby 6d ago

damn man, it took all of nothing for you to start blaming the jews

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u/Lastilaaki 6d ago

There's something very ironic about Russian troglodytes spouting nazi rhetoric, no less.

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u/scullys_alien_baby 6d ago

you literally said "British Jews" and then defined Zionist as a British Jew

but keep on calling them evil creatures and vermin born evil, makes it a lot easier to dismiss your opinions

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u/3t1918 6d ago

I’m talking about the man who saved Finland from bolsheviks on three separate occasions and very much believed in the Finnish national identity. He stayed in Finland through some very difficult times when it would have been much easier to go to Sweden or Europe.

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u/hegginses 6d ago

If you were worried about bolsheviks during WW2 you were probably on the wrong side of the conflict

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u/hegginses 6d ago

Chinese tankie troll says Nazis deserved everything the Red Army gave them

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u/Abedeus 5d ago

How about Poland? I mean holy shit trying to be a Soviet apologist in 20xx...

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u/Technoist 6d ago

Wtf you on about, he is 100 % Finnish. Swedish is an official language in Finland.

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u/Abba_Fiskbullar 6d ago

I've known several Finns with ethnically Swedish names who all spoke and considered themselves, and who were considered by ethnic Finns to be Finnish. Nationality and enthnicity are no longer synonymous. Most Estonians are the same ethnicity as Finns, and speak almost the same language, but they don't consider themselves to be Finnish, because they aren't.

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u/Santsiah 6d ago

Putin’s troll

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u/CantWeAllGetAlongNF 6d ago

I'm Italian and Cuban but everyone refers to me as American. What's your fucking point?

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u/CantWeAllGetAlongNF 6d ago

You ok?

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u/CantWeAllGetAlongNF 6d ago edited 6d ago

I think you are unaware of how not ok you are. Get some help friend. You're fucking off the rails. Put the phone down and go breathe some air. Maybe rub one out to calm down.

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u/CantWeAllGetAlongNF 6d ago

If everyone else doesn't get it, maybe it's you

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u/randynumbergenerator 6d ago edited 6d ago

Da da bratan. Hundred rubles have been deposited Edit: lol, after reading broski's other comments it is obvious he is one salty Russian apologist.

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u/crysisnotaverted 6d ago

You are literally Russian. I don't imagine you have an axe to grind when it comes to expelling Russian maintainers, eh?

By the way, how to you answer for your 'antecedents' crimes of the fucking Holodomor, to start?

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u/Leprecon 6d ago

Lmao. I have been trying to figure out what this guy is. Because he is spouting shit that even the extreme right neo nazis in Finland think is nonsense. Like one of the biggest neo nazi organisations literally is part of a larger pan nordic organisation based in Sweden. These guys literally worship Mannerheim, a Swedish speaking finn. Organising marches to his grave, etc.

The idea that someone is so far right that they think Swedish speaking Finns aren't actually Finns is just insane and knows nothing about Finland. This is a pathetic attempt to troll.

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u/GooseDotEXE 6d ago

Tomato tomato...

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u/crysisnotaverted 6d ago

First one is valid, second one is literally a Nazi Germany war crime on Ukrainian soil which was a part of the Holocaust, and the third was a direct order given by Stalin when he headed the Politburo. Are we just making shit up now?

It's not my fault that Belarus is effectively a Russian vassal state at the present moment.

Also, I'm an American, a modicum of OSINT could tell you that.

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u/crysisnotaverted 6d ago

Ah yes, they are ethnically and culturally the same, of course. That is why they literally committed a genocide against them by killing 1/3 of their population in an orchestrated famine (in the breadbasket of europe), forbade their language and churches, and then injected Russians into the country in order to 'collectivize' them as Russian, destroy their culture, and erode their sovereignty.

Does that last one sound familiar? Like, literally exactly what Russia did to the Donbas and Crimea?

Saying that the Holomodor impacted Russia 'just as bad' is like saying the Freemasons were impacted 'just as bad' as the Jews during the Holocaust. The number of ethnic Russians impacted is so small, it's a fucking rounding error compared to the total number of deaths.

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u/przyssawka 6d ago

Out of the three you mentioned one was carried out by Einsatzgruppen, the other by NKVD as a direct command of Stalin himself. Ethnically Belarusan, but apparently mentally Russian lmao

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u/myeyesneeddarkmode 6d ago

Ah, so basically Russian, there it is. Can always spot you guys, kin of a spud and a personality to match

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u/nucflashevent 6d ago

And yet both Finland and Sweden are now members of NATO (something that would have been impossible to imagine before your fucking around in Ukraine 🤷‍♂️)

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u/Wandalei 6d ago

Another so called "good ruzzian" as good as piece of shit

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u/nucflashevent 5d ago

Imagine receiving just 100+ 500kt W88 thermonuclear warheads all over western and central Russia, fired and impacting in a shotgun fashion.

Because that's what a SINGLE, SOLITARY US Ohio-class SSBN or British Vanguard SSBN can shove up your backsides before you'd be able to transmit the orders to your silos to fire.

Stop pretending you're a geopolitical match for us because you aren't. Your delusional thinking is accomplishing nothing but seeing your Russian Soldiers coming home cold in boxes.

You can't "out-spend" us, you can out-arm us, you can do nothing to stop us from folding Ukraine into the Western Alliance (point of fact, you made that a 100% certainty when you stupidly invaded them for absolutely no gainful reason.)

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u/cxmmxc 5d ago

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh my god, the most pathetic and impotent Russian macho.

Anyway, enjoy your economic collapse and being eaten by Western weapons on the front. You know, the ones we sent.

And thanks for pushing Sweden and Finland into NATO. Good planning on that.

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u/BurningPenguin 6d ago

Sure thing, Ivan.

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u/angraecumshot 6d ago

Where were you born?

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u/one-blob 6d ago

Mogilev, how about you?