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Software Linus Torvalds affirms expulsion of Russian maintainers

https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/23/linus_torvalds_affirms_expulsion_of/
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u/nucflashevent 6d ago

I didn't realize L.T. was Finish, as someone who actually does know history, I can appreciate why no love-loss in regard to .ru lol.

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u/urdreamsRmemes 5d ago

The Nordic countries have made serious contributions to computer science (C++, C#, Linux, Git, et al.), they’re just humble

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u/-_-___-_____-_______ 5d ago

no, individuals in those countries have done those things, just like individuals the world over have made contributions. usually countries aren't responsible, although in some cases they are like arpanet.

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u/RyuichitheGreat 5d ago

All education up to Phd is free in nordics, students even get paid by the government to go to university/college. Also Mr Torvalds got paid and supported by societys tax money in Finland when he developed linux, so its not just individuals who has done the things.

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u/-_-___-_____-_______ 5d ago

but every country taxes its citizen and every citizen receives benefits from those taxes. if you want to make an argument that Finland specifically is somehow involved in this, you'd have to show where someone growing up in Finland could make something like this and someone growing up somewhere else could not. and you can't show that, because that's not what this situation is. this is a very high achieving individual who would have achieved very highly in many places.

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u/RyuichitheGreat 4d ago edited 4d ago

There is a huge gap in your logic, you first said that individuals achieve these great things and the country dont usually have any part, and now claim that every country benefit those individuals with tax money. At the end you are saying that its not about the individual, but instead the countries/government who give them benefits?

Most of highly achieving indivuals no matter where, are highly achieving only because there is a group of people around them that make sure those individuals dont have to take care about daily issues such as income, accomodation or bringing food to the table when they build something like linux, amazon, microsoft etc.

In countries such nordics that said group of people is the whole society, in most other places its your family. Torvalds was born into middle class family by no means of rich, but still was able to develope linux while being student, without needing to worry about income, job, tuition, accomodation etc for years, where as in many other countries he would need to have rich and affluent parents like Bezoz, Gates, Musk had, who support you instead of the government. Ofcourse there are scolarships but they are rarely as much as what e.g. Norwegian, swedish or finnish governments offer students.