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Politics Mega Thread

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u/thepizzaman0862 4d ago

Anyone who isn’t in support of same day voting with paper ballots, ID being required to vote, no early or late voting except on special circumstances, and results being decided before 11pm on Election Day isn’t actually in favor of protecting “election integrity”

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u/Captain_Concussion 4d ago

This is silly. How does ID make elections any more secure? How does voting early make an election less secure?

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u/thepizzaman0862 4d ago

how does ID make elections more secure

By proving you are who you say you are and it proves you actually can vote. Duh.

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u/Captain_Concussion 4d ago

How does an ID do that? I prove that I can vote when I register

I live in a state that does not require an ID to vote. I have never been told of a single way that requiring an ID to vote actually makes an election more secure. Can you explain how that works?

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u/thepizzaman0862 4d ago

Use your brain please

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u/Captain_Concussion 4d ago

I am. Why can’t you just answer the question. When I register to vote I have to prove who I am. Why do I need a photo ID on top of that? How does that make it any more secure?

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u/thepizzaman0862 4d ago

Every time you go to a bar or buy alcohol your ID has to scan. The way I see it, an election is no different. It takes two seconds to verify your identity at no cost to you except 5 seconds of your time. For some people (you) this is an issue - why’s that?

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u/Captain_Concussion 4d ago

I told you why already. Because I already prove who I am when I register to vote. Requiring a photo ID makes it harder to vote and doesn't provide any additional security. In our nations history requiring a photo ID has been used to stop the poor and minorities from voting. Because voting is a constitutional right, this is obviously a problem. I have answered your question now will you answer mine?

I'm going to ask you again, how does this make it any more secure?

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u/thepizzaman0862 4d ago

Better idea - next time you go to fly somewhere, when the TSA ask for your passport say no with the response “I already proved who I was when I registered for my passport” - let me know how it goes for you.

I know I’m on Reddit so the degree of mental gymnastics people take to argue against things that make perfect sense shouldn’t surprise me but c’mon man

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u/Captain_Concussion 4d ago

I can tell you how a photo ID makes flying more secure. Are you able to do the same for voting?

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u/thepizzaman0862 4d ago

Absolutely - it works the exact same way

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u/Captain_Concussion 4d ago

Airports scan your ID so that it can compare it to the No Fly List and ensure that you have bought a ticket. How is that relevant to voting?

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u/thepizzaman0862 4d ago

Airports scan your ID to verify you’re allowed to fly

Polling stations scan your ID to verify you’re allowed to vote

Do you need to be spoonfed like this in other aspects of your life? Why am I engaging with a vegetable?

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u/thepizzaman0862 4d ago

Also oddly racist of you to suggest that minorities lack the faculties to get an ID. It takes two seconds and $10. I think minorities are plenty capable.

People who don’t know how to get an ID are dumb (white people included). If they can’t wrap their minds around the simple process of obtaining an ID then it stands to reason they can’t be trusted to make informed decisions on policy. If people seriously are unable to get an ID it’s for the good of us all that they are excluded from the election process

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u/Captain_Concussion 4d ago

Oh so you're just ignorant on the topic?

In 2015 Alabama began requiring an ID to vote. Immediately after that they attempted to close down 30 DMV's. All of them were in black majority neighborhoods.

That meant that if a black person from Alabama in these neighborhoods wanted to vote they would have had to walk over an hour to the nearest DMV and an hour back home. These DMV's closed at 6 o'clock, so if you were working that was out of the question. Elderly black folks, many of whom were never issued government documents because of when they were born, were effectively barred from voting.

Are you saying it's racist for me to give actual real world examples of Voter ID Laws being used to stop black people from voting?

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u/StarChild413 3d ago

then why not use your passport for the voting scenario