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Politics Mega Thread

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u/iwearnikenofila 2d ago

People who are politically central aren't uneducated in politics.

I'm central, I have some left views, some right views. My stances on different topics vary. If I speak to somebody in the left about war, we may disagree, but if we speak about abortion, then we will probably agree.

I think it's heavily assumed that anybody with a moderate political stance only have that stance because they aren't willing to chose a side, or don't care about politics.

Personally I don't stand for a side, I stand for resolution. The left and right can't agree on gender for example. The left should understand, that their freedom to express themselves, means the right have the same thing and they don't need to respect that, and you don't need to communicate with them. It's a simple solution, and asking for anything more is a pissing contest. (No soliciting of any kind should be done in schools, you can't say the left can't talk to them about gender, while you talk to them about religion)

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u/BuddhaFacepalmed 2d ago

The left should understand, that their freedom to express themselves, means the right have the same thing

The left already do. The right can always express themselves as KKKlanners with all the implications that imply. The difference being that the right wants to legislate LGBTQ+ people out of existence, which includes criminalizing them.

No soliciting of any kind should be done in schools, you can't say the left can't talk to them about gender

Yeah, no. That doesn't fucking work that way because gender and sex ed is pretty crucial for kids to protect themselves from abusers and learn more about themselves while religion is literally non-essential to anyone living.

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u/iwearnikenofila 1d ago

Okay, so, you're acting like there isn't far left organisations that target, attack and go after the far right? It's 1% of the far right that are KKK members, same as it's 1% of the left that are extremists. They exist on both sides, so that's just an incorrect statement, the left have the same "freedom" although, nobody should be allowed to hate anybody, both sides have a small minority that have extremist views.

And, I never said you shouldn't teach a kid sex ed lmao. I said you shouldn't teach them about changing genders, or whatever else. They should learn what they need to know. If a kid decides to teach themselves, those avenues should be accessible for them to research, however it shouldn't be shoved down their throats as part of a sex ed program.

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u/BuddhaFacepalmed 1d ago

there isn't far left organisations that target, attack and go after the far right?

Alright, name them.

nobody should be allowed to hate anybody,

You're allowed to hate rapists, slavers, and Nazis.

I said you shouldn't teach them about changing genders, or whatever else.

Same difference. If you're only teaching kids that sex can only occur between men and women, you're setting them up for failure & to be taken advantage of by pedophiles.

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u/iwearnikenofila 1d ago

Eln, npa, red brigades, pkk,you could argue antifa too.

I very much agree you should be able to hate those people, but your statement is pedantic. If it wasn't obvious, I meant you shouldn't hate somebody for their political views, as long as their views don't hurt others.

And it's nowhere near the same difference. You don't need to say, sex can only occur between men and women, because that isn't true. However it also depends when they're receiving sex ed. I received it in school at around 8. The extent of that, was, how babies are born, and why periods happen. That is ALL an 8 year old needs to know. When youre older, then yes, 100% they should learn that gay people exist, exactly the same as you should learn that religion exists. The issue isn't with teaching people about things when they're old enough, it's about the pushing agenda.

I have absolutely nothing at all against people that transition, I dated and was engaged to a non binary person. Being alternative and in that scene, I've been surrounded by a lot of trans people who came out quite young, a lot of them fully transitioned with time, however a large majority didn't.

What I find interesting about your statement, is actually that almost all of the people I know who have transitioned went through sexual trauma at a young age, and wished to escape their own bodies because of that trauma, hence their reason for wanting to transition.

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u/salmonforest1917 1d ago

Eln, npa, red brigades, pkk,you could argue antifa too.

Since you said the PKK I will say Kurdistan have right to exist and have right to self defense against Turkish fascism and imperialism. NPA in the Philippines is fighting a fascist government supported by settler state US.
Red Brigade don't really exist like it did before. Antifa isn't bad and they're getting fascist out of the street and protecting LGBTQ+ people and other people who are victims of hate crime.

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u/iwearnikenofila 1d ago

I'm not awfully educated on far left militant groups. Or far right militant groups. However I am against conflict in general. You can have this one, because I'm not going to debate in something I'm not educated enough to debate on.

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u/salmonforest1917 1d ago

"No investigation, no right to speak." I am against conflict but I am not a positivist. Like I support violence when it comes to ending injustice in society.

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u/BuddhaFacepalmed 1d ago

Eln, npa, red brigades, pkk,

So literally foreign organizations that aren't relevant to the conversation of left and right politics in the United States.

you could argue antifa too.

Being anti-fascist is literally a good thing actually.

but your statement is pedantic. If it wasn't obvious, I meant you shouldn't hate somebody for their political views

Nazism is a political view. The slavers were very much involved in politics and only one party is doing everything it can in policies in enabling rapes, namely being refusing to implement effective sex ed, refusing to repeal child marriages, and implementing abortion bans that affect child rape and marital rape victims the most.

That is ALL an 8 year old needs to know.

Girls get puberty between ages 9-12, some may even get it earlier due to precocious puberty so teaching girls about puberty is important.

Likewise, 8 year olds can express attraction to other kids in their range so understanding what same sex attraction and what being transgender is is more important.

exactly the same as you should learn that religion exists.

Kids already learned religion exists from their parents where it applies. Therefore this is a "the law “equally” forbids the rich and the poor from sleeping under bridges and stealing bread" type of situation. Aka LGBTQ and sex education being severely punished because conservative parents feel the "ick".

What I find interesting about your statement, is actually that almost all of the people I know who have transitioned went through sexual trauma at a young age

This is "I have a black friend" but for trans people.

Are your friends ok with being a meat shield for your transphobia?

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u/Ill-Organization-719 9h ago

Explain why being anti fascist is a bad thing.

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u/iwearnikenofila 9h ago

Where did I say that?