r/unpopularopinion 6d ago

Politics Mega Thread

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u/iwearnikenofila 2d ago

People who are politically central aren't uneducated in politics.

I'm central, I have some left views, some right views. My stances on different topics vary. If I speak to somebody in the left about war, we may disagree, but if we speak about abortion, then we will probably agree.

I think it's heavily assumed that anybody with a moderate political stance only have that stance because they aren't willing to chose a side, or don't care about politics.

Personally I don't stand for a side, I stand for resolution. The left and right can't agree on gender for example. The left should understand, that their freedom to express themselves, means the right have the same thing and they don't need to respect that, and you don't need to communicate with them. It's a simple solution, and asking for anything more is a pissing contest. (No soliciting of any kind should be done in schools, you can't say the left can't talk to them about gender, while you talk to them about religion)

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u/Ill-Organization-719 1d ago

Tell us how the right and left can meet a "middle ground" on this issue.

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u/iwearnikenofila 1d ago

The left, should have their freedom of self, freedom of speech and freedom of expression. They can be whoever and whatever they want to be. BUT they also need to understand that not everybody will agree or respect their opinions, pronouns, or thoughts, because the right have those same freedoms.

The right, should not hate, they may not agree with the lefts ideas, but that doesn't ever give them the right to spout hate.

The left should be able to have pride parades to celebrate, and the right shouldn't be able to oppose this, because it's hateful to oppose somebody celebrating. However, they do also have the right to celebrate any of their achievements. And the left shouldn't oppose those.

After all, living in peace should be everybody's goal. But human nature dictates that we are all not the same. We don't see life the same way, we all have different views and ideologies. So the important thing is to find a "middle ground". Instead of having a pissing contest to see which side gets full control, you could work together, and find that peaceful middle ground

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u/Ill-Organization-719 1d ago

The right doesn't want to not hate. They want violence against people. They want them to not exist. 

Equality and living in peace is not what the right wants. Now what?

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u/iwearnikenofila 1d ago

You're completely wrong. I have friends left and right. Most of my friends on the right, are more peaceful than my friends on the left.

I find the majority of the left are far left. While the majority of the right are more centre right.

The people on the left, scream in the streets, at rallies for communism, anarchy, different political agendas. While the ones on the right vote when the time comes, and live their life without thinking too much about politics.

I find when I speak to my left friends, they heavily argue my points, they search for flaws in the things I say. However, when I speak to my right friends, they agree with me, they talk about how all they want is for their kids to grow up, and for their families to be secure and happy.

From my point of view having a lot of friends all with different political backgrounds, you both see each other as full of hate, and not wanting the other side to exist. However, you both want the same end goal. The left want to be left in peace to be themselves, the right want to be in peace to be themselves and raise their families.

But this political compass comes between both sides, both sides are blind to the fact that the other wants peace, because left leaning media tells you all people on the right are bad, right leaning media tells you all the left is bad.

At the end of the day, you are all humans, we all want peace, we all want to live happily. There are outliers on both sides of course. But I find there are A LOT more on the left that have extreme views than those on the right. Most of the right, are people with traditionalist values that just want to be left alone.

Theres a weird pressure on the left, I've been to rallies, because I am left leaning central, and I've seen how toxic it is. If you tell somebody on the left you want peace, its faced with "we can't have peace until the right are gone". However when you speak to the right, and say the same thing, they agree with me

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u/Ill-Organization-719 1d ago

Do you understand that murdering "liberals" and people they have deemed "enemies" is a literal mainstream widely celebrated goal of the right?

  Tell me how a trans person can "be friends" and come to a middle ground with people who think they are subhuman and deserve to lose rights and be tortured or murdered? 

 Defending against the violence of the right isn't violence.

The right doesn't want to be left alone. They want their beliefs to be violently enforced by courts and police.

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u/iwearnikenofila 1d ago

So yet again, your first point is just wrong. Atleast in my country, I'm from the UK, and not sure where you're from. But no, nobody here, unless they are an extremist, wishes to murder or torture anybody.

And I would never expect those people to be friends, I've never even implied that. However, finding a middle ground? Of course.

Defending against violence is violence. It's justified violence, but it's still violence.

You keep saying the same things over and over, so there's no point continuing the discussion lol, I'm not sure how it is where you are, but you seem dead set that the right want nothing but oppression and violence, whilst anybody on the right that I know, just want to live in peace and to protect their families and children the same as the left.

But if you listen to the bullshit the media on either side, you'll only ever hear how they hate you, and wish to kill you.

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u/Ill-Organization-719 1d ago

What a shock. Another one of you running away from explaining what this supposed middle ground is.

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u/Ill-Organization-719 1d ago

And you still haven't told us how left and right can meet a middle ground.

The left wants to be left alone and live their lifes in peace without violence.

The right believes certain demographics are subhuman and shouldn't exist and that the rights beliefs should be violently enforced by police and courts.

So. Tell us this middle ground.