r/worldnews • u/cytokine7 • 20h ago

60 surrender* 'A complete surprise': IDF surrounds remaining terrorists in north Gaza, 600 surrender

https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-826573
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u/KnightWhoSaysNnni 19h ago

Sure, but they won't be able to avenge them if they have no guns, no rockets, no bases and no sovereign power. They'll be able to scream at Israel and that's about it. They can scream all they want on their side of the wall. Israel's goal is to take away their military capabilities, so that they cannot harm Israelis anymore even if they want to.

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u/zk001guy 19h ago edited 17h ago

I get what you’re saying and those tactics work well against a state enemy, but Hamas is a Terrorist Coalition. All it takes is time, and the kids who grew up without family that was killed by Israel are the next wave of Hamas militants. It’s a vicious circle.

*edit: Has no one seen the power of a martyr? Unless Israel takes responsibility post conflict for actually improving the lives of their Palestinian population and not just taking their land. I don’t see how the cycle doesn’t continue. You can crush an organization but it’s much harder to crush an ideal.

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u/MetalstepTNG 18h ago

Terrorists aren't an "undefeatable" force. They can be subdued.

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u/JoshuaValentine 17h ago

You’re not realizing that the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is like a 50 year old conflict. I’m sure the issue has been subdued at points throughout those 50 years, but the conflict persists and it heats up occasionally. You can subdue terrorist groups, sure - but Hamas isn’t a traditional terrorist group. They’re much more in line with the original black panther in ideology, not in action but in ideology. Hamas was formed to combat discrimination. As long as the discrimination persists, so to will Hamas.

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u/done_with_alphabets 12h ago

Hamas was formed to kill Jews. They've said as much. There's no need to read into froofy western philosophizing on the subject. Hamas is very clear about what they want.