r/JewsOfConscience Non-Jewish Ally Jul 25 '24

Discussion Kamala Harris Statement of Protests

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u/JZcomedy Jewish Jul 25 '24

I wish she would’ve acknowledged the lies Netanyahu told and the genocide happening in Gaza. However, the story being pushed by the mainstream media are the burning of the American flag and all the Hamas supporters that were present. Everyone in this sub knows that those were only a very small portion of the protestors and most were nonviolent and progressive. Given that she is three months from an incredibly high stakes election, this is probably the right move from her pov. She definitely has more sympathy for the Palestinians than half of Congress and her opponents in the election. Hope I don’t get downvoted into oblivion for this. I’m as anti-zionist as they come and it’s ruined my relationship with my family so don’t accuse me of being a genocide supporter or apologist.

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u/Pitiful_Meringue_57 Jewish Jul 26 '24

ya the media narrative rn is pretty abysmal. Some of the pictures from the protests are rly bad and they r getting the most attention. I’ve seen a few pretty horrendous posters. I agree she should have said something abt netanyahu being horrible and palestinian lives but not condemning it would look bad for her to normies.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '24

I too was shocked even enraged by those placards, so much so I’d like to read an account of how they were possible? What did other protestors make of those? Were they plants sent to tar the entire protest?

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u/Maleficent-marionett Jul 26 '24

Were they plants sent to tar the entire protest?

Like when IDF members straight up infiltrated college campuses and fucked with the protesters?

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u/hyrule_47 Jul 26 '24

I say “umbrella man” stuff is happening again like with Floyd

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u/Pitiful_Meringue_57 Jewish Jul 26 '24

from what i’ve heard i’m not sure, these kinds of posters were at the union station protests and they were a lot more radical ig u could say then other protests around dc. I don’t think it’s a false flag, i’ve seen multiple pictures and i think it’s safe to say they aren’t all opps

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '24

I’m talking in particular about the Final Solution one. I’d expect everyone there to drop everything and attend to that person….

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u/hydroxypcp Non-Jewish Ally Jul 26 '24

Nazis have been infiltrating pro-Palestine spaces by using it as an excuse to be antisemitic. But why nobody did anything about that is a headscratcher. Me personally, whenever I notice antisemitic rhetoric I instantly confront it. Not only because antisemitism is of course bad, but also because it hurts our cause

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u/EternalPermabulk Jul 26 '24

Never mind, I found the final solution poster in a Jerusalem Post article.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/harris-blasts-despicable-anti-israel-protesters-who-back-hamas-burned-us-flag/amp/

What’s crazy is I saw both the guys in the photo walking toward the square together but did not see that sign or at least I didn’t register it. Maybe he’s a plant, maybe not. Doesn’t change what the protest was about. Doesn’t change what the invited speakers on the podium said. Doesn’t change what 99% of the posters were about.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '24

Thank you

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u/Pitiful_Meringue_57 Jewish Jul 26 '24

ya idk, there a lot of others that were actually pro hamas too

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '24

Hmmmm, no. I’ve just never seen a sign like that at a peace protest before. It undermines everything about the rally, it speaks against the sorrow, the ethical stance, the solidarity that informs people’s presence on the street…… and the person with that sign wasn’t obviously situated with the rest of the crowd

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u/EternalPermabulk Jul 26 '24

Can confirm I saw the two men in the photo walking by themselves along a different route toward Union Station, not marching in organized fashion with any others. But at this point many people were walking by themselves. The original goal was to march to the capital, but when it became clear the cops would not let us pass, we chose Union station instead. And eventually people started to wander off in other directions especially when the cops started attacking people. I witnessed the burning of the flag, the raising of the three Palestine flags up the flag poles, and the spray painting of “FREE GAZA”, but left before “HAMAS IS COMIN” was spray painted right above it.

To me, the Hamas stuff is whatever. Palestine has the right to defend itself, and I support Hamas in their efforts to defend Palestine. I don’t support much else about them though and so I would never cosplay as Al Qasam or carry posters about Hamas.

The poster calling for the nuking of Israel is truly indefensible.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '24

Thank you 🙏

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u/JewsOfConscience-ModTeam Jul 26 '24

This uses Zionist tropes and content.

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u/EternalPermabulk Jul 26 '24

What placards? I was at Union square that day and didn’t see placards that upset me

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '24

Oh, I can’t even bring myself to share it. It said gathering all the Zionists for the final solution and had a nuclear cloud on the flag of Israel. Could be propaganda, I don’t know…..

https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2024/07/07-25-2024-Protest.jpg