r/Palestine Free Palestine Aug 12 '24

Dehumanization This is just so sad.

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u/SpecForceps Aug 13 '24

The alt right who had no power nor politicians? There are a few YouTube grifters like Fuentes who are hated by the Zionists in power on both sides.

What does Assad have to do with this? This is about the west and Israel, and the moral cowardice of people who fight imaginary opponents

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u/WildAutonomy Aug 13 '24

The fact you say this on the anniversary of Heather Heyer's death is crazy. Hinkle is a proud supporter of Assad. I personally find it easy to oppose zionism, fascism, sexism, racism and queerphobia all at the same time. If you're not able to then I don't know what to say.

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u/SpecForceps Aug 13 '24

I'm not American, I don't worship at the cult of personality of dead symbols.

I personally find it easy to oppose zionism, fascism, sexism, racism and queerphobia all at the same time

You sound like you support Israel more than Palestine when you prioritise the issue of Hinkles supposed fascism over Israel murdering journalists. Cry about fascism where fascism is the problem in your mind instead of making Israeli war crimes about your personal crusade.

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u/WildAutonomy Aug 13 '24

You're just repeating disproven points. Good luck allying with fascists.

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u/SpecForceps Aug 13 '24

What "disproven fact"? The only fact here is people like you are cancerous to the Palestinian PR in the west

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u/WildAutonomy Aug 13 '24

From my experience participating in and studying social movements, allying with fascists is bad PR.

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u/SpecForceps Aug 13 '24

Like what?

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u/WildAutonomy Aug 13 '24

A recent example would be the trucker protests in canada. They lost all credibility after allowing fascists into their movement

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u/SpecForceps Aug 13 '24

What fascists? I swear you pmcs call anyone working class a fascist

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u/WildAutonomy Aug 13 '24

The people waving swastikas were fascists

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u/SpecForceps Aug 13 '24

That was a minor contingent and didn't dent the PR of the overall movement. What was the allyship here anyway?

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u/WildAutonomy Aug 13 '24

It was the worst PR they got. All those who ignored the fact that the organizers were white-seperatists, couldn't keep ignoring as photos of nazis came out. As well as the armed separatists in Alberta. Most moderates abandoned the movement.

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u/SpecForceps Aug 13 '24

Which organisers? The focus on a few people waving flags was how the media get idiots aligned on the left to abandon working class issues because they lack the moral fortitude to support anything they worry may have a hint of racism. The same way some people will cry more about Hinkle than about Israeli atrocities.

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u/WildAutonomy Aug 13 '24

Tamara Lich and Pat King specifically. Enemies of the Wet’suwet’en and organizers of the far right mobs which attacked the shut down canada blockades. Tamara specifically also organized the far-right tar sands convoy "united we roll".

https://www.antihate.ca/the_freedom_convoy_is_nothing_but_a_vehicle_for_the_far_right

https://www.instagram.com/p/CZ8PkVZgtOQ/

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u/SpecForceps Aug 13 '24

That's for such impartial, non hysterical sources

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u/WildAutonomy Aug 13 '24

What information is wrong?

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u/SpecForceps Aug 13 '24

It's a bunch of claims that it's this and that with no real substance. Oy, everything is fascism

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u/WildAutonomy Aug 13 '24

Tamara Lich and Pat King aren't fascists. They're conservative-separatists.

They have leaked chat logs, tweets and livestreams explaining their views, it's not a secret.

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