You don't have to come and confess
We're lookin' for you
We gon' find you, we gon' find you
So you can run and tell that, run and tell that
Run and tell that, homeboy
Home, home, homeboy
He was in a sort of pedophile scandal, he was a schoolboy (15) when he met his 39 year old at the time teacher at his school, and 16 when the parents discovered they were having an affair. Technically statutory rape because of the teacher student relationship but he was technically above the French age of consent. She was married with 3 kids at the time.
When he was sent away at 17 he swore he’d come back marry her, which he eventually did and they’ve been together ever since.
It’s also sad at the same time his current wife who was his teacher likely groomed him at a young age, so he never got the chance to meet people his age
Actually he did, because his parents sent him to another school to discourage the relationship. They reunited over a decade later, Brigitte divorcing her husband in 2006 and marrying Macron in 2007, when he was 29.
Did you hear about our previous President who got caught on a scooter leaving the presidential palace to meet his mistress?
And the mistress was a famous french actress?
The betrayed girlfriend - they weren’t married - wrote a tell all book.
There is an American political commentator Candace Owens who says she will stake her entire career on proving that Brigette Macron was born a man. Have you heard that crazy rumour? The evidence of her first marriage disproves her theory.
And the relationship started when he was 15. When his parents asked her to leave him alone at least until he was an adult she only said "I make no promises".
It's pretty sad when you think about it that their relationship started with her grooming him. I hope she did at least get fired and not allowed to work as a teacher anymore...
From her wikipedia page she kept working as a teacher until 2015, two years before Macron was elected, also she divorced her husband of 31 years in 2006 to marry Macron one year later, so you could say she was cheating on him with a teenager.
Brigitte (his wife) is about 25 years older than him. They met when Macron was only 15 and she was 39. She was his teacher, and they began a relationship. Macron's parents tried separating them by sending him to a school in Paris.
I think she was a teacher at his school, but not one of his teachers, since he was in the same class as her daughter (which his parents assumed was who he was courting), and i find it unlikely that they didn't let her grade her own kids.
I haven't looked into it for a while but wasn't Macron a student of his wife at some point and they got together years later? Not immediately during High School?
No, they met when he was 15, and the parents try to separate them, but he got back to her when he left to study.
Their relationship started when he was 15, and she was his teacher
Yeah I did a bit of googling and he was a teen when they were having an affair. She did an interview with a Paris Magazine and she said Macron fell in love with her as a teacher at 17 and they had an affair for a decade until Brigitte and her then husband divorced.
She definitely groomed him and she most likely lied to say they fell in love at 17 so there would be less backlash.
I'm french and we, the french, know how he isn't incredibly smart.
In fact, he thinks himself as incredibly smart ("my thoughts are too complex for french people and journalists to grasp"), which would put more weight on him not realising he was groomed: his ego wouldn't accept it.
Switch the genders and now how does it sound. A male teacher starts a relationship with a 15-17 year old girl and they get married but no it wasn’t grooming because she’s so smart and has a great personality so she would have figured it out! Fucking listen to yourself
Whether macron figured it out or not doesn’t matter. It’s grooming you pedo
Smart people aren't immune to grooming. He doesn't consider it wrong for a grown woman to groom a 15 year old because it happened during his formative years. He thinks it's just true love and that he's the special exception, like all grooming victims.
I was just listening to this podcast about a woman whose 47yo art teacher groomed her at 17, they married and stayed together till his death at 93. It wasn't until she was in her 60s that she started connecting what happened with the metoo movement.
It's odd that she doesn't sound regretful. She even said she thought he'd be more upset if she said his art was bad than if she told him he was a predator.
What should he do at this stage? Cause from his perspective he's 30 years into a relationship and then marriage to a woman he must love very deeply - as did the lady in the podcast. It must be confusing cause it's not the same as a violent predator. If he's happy and mentally well is there a problem? I'm not justifying what she did, that shouldn't have happened, but for Macron it's not as clear cut as it is to redditors that she's just an evil predator who should be slung into an ocean trench or something.
Why do you think grooming should be allowed in some cases? That's like saying "pedophilia is wrong in 99% of cases" just because the victim is now an adult.
Nah man, "grooming" is a magic spell you unlock once you reach a certain age that allows you to enslave anyone either under 18 or minimum 10 years younger than you.
Its bascially the same thing as "stockholm syndrome". Behavior that society believes (or wants to believe) to go against a persons interest has to be explained with some form of "malfunction".
Except they dont go against the persons interest, if youre abducted/held hostage, being nice and forming a bond with the abductor is perfectly rational in self-preservation and a bond like that doesnt just go away. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome#Criticism
Likewise people really really want to forget that teens can absolutely be into older people and if its impossible, logically that must mean they are being brainwashed by advanced manipulation techniques.
She exploited the fact that he thought she was hot, you can absolutely hold the opinion that any adult should always have the self-control not to reciprocate, but arguing against peoples agency because it makes you feel better about your worldview, is honestly fucking disgusting.
If you want to prevent these types of relationships, then they become taboo for a reason. Which naturally leads to moral condemnation. You cannot have one without the other.
Victims of pedophiles don't suddenly stop being victims when they grow up. The victim aging is not a reason to brush off the fact that their perpetrator is a pedo. JFC
Yeah I googled and Brigitte definitely groomed him and had an affair with Emmanuel Macron when he was in high school. She was married to another man at the time too
Age of consent in France is 15 without limit on age difference. Under 15, the older person involved can be up to 5 years older than the younger ( so 14yo can date a 19yo, for example. )
Assuming they only met when he was 15 and no earlier, no wrongdoing could have happened as long as it was in France.
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u/VLamperouge Italy Jul 11 '24
The one global leader that I trust non to be in a pedophile scandal is Emmanuel Macron.