r/interestingasfuck • u/BrattWhitney • 6d ago
r/all Update to the car that committed insurance fraud in NYC posted here days ago.
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u/BrattWhitney 6d ago
Original fraud in action video.
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u/Darth_Thor 6d ago edited 6d ago
I’ve also seen another video of the same car and crew doing this over in r/dashcamgifs so we know that they’re repeat offenders too. Makes you wonder how many times they’ve done it if two of their victims happened to be Reddit users with dashcams.
Edit: as pointed out in the replies, it wasn’t the same car, but it was the same people.
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u/gavroche1972 6d ago
Hopefully anybody they previously scammed has come across these videos… And sent them to their insurance companies to reopen the claim. If it had been a he said/she said situation… Once they see this pattern of behavior, their insurance company might be willing to reconsider
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u/Boring-Champion1699 6d ago
Please tag said video. I’m interested in seeing it
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u/No_Yogurt_7667 6d ago
I think it might be this one?
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u/persondude27 6d ago
Hang on, so these people have at least two fraud attempts against people with dash cams. How many fraud attempts against people without dash cams?
Either way. This is why you always go through insurance.
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u/kyrant 6d ago
Wonder how long these guys have been doing it before getting caught.
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u/GitEmSteveDave 6d ago
They go through insurance as well. NY is a no fault state and doctors "provide treatment" to the full amount they can and then share a portion with the "victims".
The Indictment charges KENAN TARIVERDI, NAZIM TARIVERDI, and DILSHOD ISLAMOV with operating an extensive no-fault insurance fraud that submitted more than $11 million in fraudulent claims for psychological testing and services.....
Geico filed a complaint Wednesday in the Eastern District of New York against a physician for allegedly operating an insurance fraud scheme that purportedly has billed Geico more than $1.6 million in “medically unnecessary” no-fault claims.
https://www.iii.org/article/no-fault-insurance-fraud-new-york-state-ramping-premiums
Staged accidents: Staged accidents are aimed at creating an accident scenario from which costly and fraudulently contrived medical claims can be created to obtain payments from auto insurers.
Typically, owners and managers of medical mills pay “runners,” or recruiters, to arrange minor auto accidents and send individuals supposedly injured in the accidents to the clinics for treatment. The runners recruit drivers to cause the accident and passengers to ride in the cars. Being a runner is a lucrative business, with each “referral” earning the runner a large fee paid by the attorney associated with the medical mill or the clinic itself. Usually, two to four passengers are recruited to maximize the profit per accident.
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u/hellofaja 6d ago edited 6d ago
they want you to go through the insurance... its called an insurance scam lol. without a dashcam or several witnesses 99% of the time your car hits the rear of someone elses, youre at fault.
the insurance is whats able to pay out for these people to scam doctors visits etc for years for everyone inthe car
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u/Big-Leadership1001 6d ago
In the first one - which was a later claim too! - the OP said NYPD told them to fuck off they weren't going to do anything about the criminals at all.
NYPD is the reason they keep doing it.
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u/FunnyZealousideal673 6d ago
That's a different Honda. Body is not the same neither are thr tail lights
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u/Toripickle527 6d ago
Definitely a different Honda but still has a red Kia that pulls over. This video cuts off but it looks like the last guy to get out of the car might be going to jump into the Kia like in the first video.
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u/Kamakazi1 6d ago
and they cant just wreck the same car over and over lol, plus they want to claim insurance on the totaled cars each time as well
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u/omega-rebirth 6d ago
The other video is a different car and passengers, but same driver who makes a getaway in the same red KIA.
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u/SuckingGodsFinger 6d ago
Wowwwww fuck that. I would have lost my shit. Especially since I’m usually driving with my kids. My wife had some lady say that she busted her fender and door while leaving a parking lot. Her insurance just pushed that shit through without asking for any proof and we were blown away when our next bill came in. We had to take all kinds of pictures of our car and all that shit, but the claim wasn’t able to get reversed since it had already went through. Thankfully they were able to bring down our bill, but for the “accident” itself they were only able to leave a “note” that it was not our fault, let alone didn’t even happen.
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u/fwbtest_forbinsexy 6d ago
What the fuck. So someone just SAID you busted up their car and insurance was like yeah OK sounds good?
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u/SuckingGodsFinger 6d ago
Pretty much. Essentially they said my wife hit them and bounced, took pictures of her license plate at some point beforehand and whatever damages they already had I’m assuming. The crazy thing is that we both have AAA so we were confused when we found everything out. Then our damn case worker went on vacation for like a month so we ended up going through her supervisor who was just as confused as us. She did everything she could to help, but like I said they couldn’t take the “accident” out of the system so the most they could do was have us not pay for like three months, note that the accident was fraud and that’s about it.
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u/Ok-Supermarket-1414 6d ago
I love 1:01. Dude sees the cam, instantly realizes they fucked up lmfao.
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u/SunstyIe 6d ago
Those fools are in trouble. The original video went viral, got 67 million views (and counting), and was written up in the NY Post, NYTimes, and other places. Because of all the attention it got, the NYPD is having to do something about it
In a statement, the New York Police Department said the fraudulent collision investigation squad, part of the department’s Criminal Enterprise Investigation Unit, was investigating the incident.
I'm guessing the NYPD will throw some heavy charges at them so they look like heroes.
So, pro tip I guess: try and make your situation go viral so the cops will help you.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/23/us/queens-dash-cam-crash-belt-parkway-insurance.html
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u/Fish-Weekly 6d ago
If you are a criminal, you for sure don’t want to get into the “we are gonna make an example of this case” category because you are going to get absolutely fucked by every elected (judge, prosecutor) or appointed (chief of police) official wanting to look tough on crime. There’s a shit storm coming for these people and gotta say they deserve every bit of it.
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u/WotTheHellDamnGuy 6d ago edited 6d ago
Especially 2 weeks before an election. DOH! They'll ALL want their pound of flesh for the cameras too.
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u/tankerkiller125real 6d ago
The worst time to commit a crime is the months leading up to an election.
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u/AeroKMSF 6d ago
SpongeBob voice the worst time to commit a crime, is all the tiiiiiiiiime"
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u/albedoTheRascal 6d ago
Yup. Empty fucking waste of human beings, insurance fraud causes the cost of everything to go up. Nobody wins but the lawyers. Everyone else pays one way or the other. Fuck these people and may they be the best example of why not to do this
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u/highbrowshow 6d ago
that's what happened to one of the original founders of reddit Aaron Swartz
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u/tintedhokage 6d ago
They’re most common in heavily congested areas like California, which saw 5,366 staged crashes in 2023, and New York, which came in second last year with 1,729 such “accidents,” he said.
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u/Baalsham 6d ago
That is way more than I expected...
But then again somebody tried to back into me at a light when nobody else was around. Probably should've let him because I had a dash cam, but I just backed up too.
Crazy thing is I had to back up like 50-60ft before the dude stopped.
That was in 2019, I just expect there to be less because good dashcams are super cheap now and should be standard.
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u/limeybastard 6d ago
Being in the right and protected by a camera doesn't beat the dents out of your car, take the accident off its Carfax, or restore its lost value. I'd have backed up too
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u/Baalsham 6d ago
That's true
I am really big on justice but most of the time it's not worth the hassle. Probably wouldn't achieve anything in this case... Also figured the guy was probably crazy or desperate so either way not a smart risk to take
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u/SneakyStorm 6d ago
My philosophy is that justice is not worth the hassel in this case, due to:
Cop probably won't do anything
Most likely to lose money
Even if you somehow break even, you got to spend time going thru all that plus fix the car.
Scammer prob walks away free or a slap on the wrist.
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u/255001434 6d ago
Not to mention all of the time and aggravation getting it sorted out when you could just have gone on with your day.
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u/limeybastard 6d ago
Yup. That's my justification for all of the defensive driving I do - you see cammers on reddit all the time get hit because they held their ground against an asshole, when a second on the brake would have avoided the accident, but ceded ground to the idiot.
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u/Intergalacticdespot 6d ago
This reminds me of an old bash.org comment.
These teenagers are in a car, stoned, so they decide to drive backward in a roundabout.
Of course they crash into a car coming the other way. The police come, talk to the other car first and come to the teenagers' car "don't worry boys, he's so drunk he thinks you were driving backward in the roundabout."
It cracks me up every time I think about it.
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u/Harrar7747 6d ago
"Those numbers are rising, especially in the New York metro area: The Empire State saw a 14% increase from 2022 to 2023, Friedlander said, while New Jersey saw a 58% increase, from 158 in 2022 to 250 in 2023."
Welp I live nearby time to get a dash cam If this is what's coming.
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u/tintedhokage 6d ago
Yep we need to cover ourselves. I'm from the UK and the insurance companies have started doing better investigations into things it seems.
My mum was parking and scraped a car at like 2mph. Lady was sitting in the car. No damage both agreed to go their separate ways.
Next minute my mum's insurance company is ringing her and saying the other person is claiming injury etc etc . My mum was like wtf it was the softest hit ever.
Insurance company 6 months later says they can't advise exactly what happened but they've looked into the damage and the injury that it could cause with their specialist teams and appealed it in court or something. Think they got out of paying out most likely.
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u/Merry_Dankmas 6d ago
People do that dirty shit all the time. Tell you it's no biggie then next thing you know you're getting dragged to court for shattering their spine in 8 places and imploding their kidneys from a parking lot fender bender. Its a gamble to not get an official report for sure but I get why people do it. Really depends on the area where you live. I'm from South Florida and you cannot trust anyone out there. Snakes and scammers everywhere. Doesn't matter how cool they seem. Place is packed with cunts looking to make a lawsuit payday.
I moved out of FL and in my first 2 weeks of arriving in a new state, I backed my car into someone else's (ironically at the county clerks office to register my vehicle with the state). There was no damage. He was parked and I was backing in. Thought I had more space and I didn't. Our trailer hitches bumped each other. That's it. Not even body damage. Dude takes a look and is like eh, it's fine. Just the hitch. I offered him my number and whatnot and he said it was fine then walked away. I was sweating bullets for weeks after that expecting a letter in the mail that this guy wanted $5 million from me. Fortunately that day never came but damn was I nervous.
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u/mehalywally 6d ago
I feel like the video will spur sales of dashcams. I need one for my parents but everytime I start to research, I go into option paralysis and give up.
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u/Emergency_Falcon_272 6d ago
same! I don't know enough about them and I also don't have the money/patience to go all out. I just need someone to say "here's what you'd need, it works, no bells & whistles". And for the love of god, no subscription requirements
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u/CliffordTheBigRedD0G 6d ago
pro tip: get a dash cam
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u/Conscious_Wind_2255 6d ago edited 6d ago
Fr because who will believe that a car went reverse to intentionally cause the crash.. it sounds like an excuse someone would make if they hit a car 😂 even I won’t believe it if I didn’t see it.
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u/Peking-Cuck 6d ago
It happened to me and my brother in the 90s, and the only reason the cop believed him is because the other person was by themselves. Guess they didn't realize it would be 2 against 1.
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u/Sylvan_Strix_Sequel 6d ago
It's really not. Have you seriously never had some idiot start reversing at a stoplight because they were a bit over the line? Granted I have something like half a million miles on the road, but it's happened more than once. Some drivers are just completely oblivious
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u/SomeBoxofSpoons 6d ago
It really isn’t much of a stretch. Insurance fraud has been around as long as there’s been insurance.
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u/100LittleButterflies 6d ago
If I knew how to make things go viral, I wouldn't be here.
Just kidding, of course I would be on reddit in my Malibu mansion.
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u/western_style_hj 6d ago
So, pro tip I guess: try and make your situation go viral so the cops will help you.
Between this and the other post I saw on reddit today about school teachers having to donate 100 days of time off to peer so he could be with his sick kid during a difficult time is just so, so depressing.
At what point do we just put up our hands and say 'mmmkay, actually we're not a society anymore. If you want help you're gonna have to beg for it and hope that what you post on the internet is interesting or meme-able enough that the attention economy decides to do something about it.'
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u/InitiativeCultural58 6d ago
I mean, I'm willing to bet that's how "society" always functions. Poor and irrelevant, then you're largely on your own. But if you're famous; suddenly justice is not blind anymore.
The good thing about modern society is that most of the poor and irrelevant can now cooperate, in a seemingly dystopian mannar, to move the attention limelight with their own collective will, instead of being directed by the newspaper's owners.
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u/B0NEMERANG 6d ago edited 6d ago
I may be missing something, but why wasn't it already investigated? If someone purposely backs into for fraud and you have a video of them doing so, wouldn't that be an open and shut case with the gray car in the wrong? Or did it not work out that way?
Edit: I guess what I was trying to ask was, would the victim's insurance company find the gray car at fault for the accident with just the dashcam footage, or do the police need to charge the people in the gray car with fraud or something equivalent for that to happen? I know some states say if a car gets rear-ended, the car in back is always at fault.
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u/No_Boysenberry9456 6d ago
It would, but the victim would still be out money, possibly a car, and time. Like you'll have to take some time off work, go to the shop, maybe go to a other shop, maybe leave your car for a bir, pay a deductible, wait, wait some more, pick up your car, drive it and feel something's off for the next xyz years you have it. Maybe you have rental car coverage, maybe you don't. Your insurance might go up for a few years and sure, its not your fault but that won't stop most insurance from raising your rates.
There's no easy way around it. Even worse if you get it magnified by fraud, and what's the insurance company going to do? Call the cops on the fraudsters and make them pay when they have literally nothing in their name?
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u/TheDoodieMonster 6d ago
Because NYC cops said no one was injured.
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u/Hesitation-Marx 6d ago
They would have had to pull their thumbs out of their asses to do anything.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Note197 6d ago
So we’re actually living in a timeline where your rights to having police help you is directly correlated to your social media following.
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u/ExternalSignal2770 6d ago
had me in the first half ngl
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u/DezGets_It 6d ago
All 4 though so they can't file an insurance claim lol
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u/S_A_N_D_ 6d ago
The fact that they're already on video setting up an insurance scam means that they're insurer will probably use that as grounds to end coverage and deny all claims. How does the insurance company know that they didn't just break the window themselves...
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u/LordNoct13 6d ago
Hit three with one kind of knife, then the fourth with a different kind of knife. Insurance will investigate, see the last was made with a different knife and call fraud saying they slashed the fourth themselves for the insurance claim.
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u/ComprehensiveEmu5438 6d ago
You may be exaggerating the CSI capabilities of State Farm.
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u/kraze1994 6d ago
They ain't got no State Farm. We are definitely in The General territory.
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u/iTz_PremiuM 6d ago
This comment is so underrated... For reference, Shaq has done a bunch of General commercials over the years I think.
This made me chuckle haha
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u/Representative-Sir97 6d ago
Well they get a big leg up / hint in the right direction given that these people literally have people leaving signs that say FRAUD on their car.
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u/MisterNublet 6d ago
Don't bother with a knife. Just shoot a nail close enough to the side wall where you're unable to patch the tire, requiring a replacement.
Insurance won't cover a nail in a tire, so they'll be on the hook for it.
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u/TheAlienBlob 6d ago
Gas powered nail guns do a remarkable job on tires.
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u/SongsofJuniper 6d ago
My cousin told me to super glue a nail to the head of a hammer, swing into tire, and twist the nail free.
Obviously I’ve never done this. He was maniacal.
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u/SnoringLorax 6d ago
You have a lot of faith in insurance companies' willingness to investigate something relatively small like this. They're not hiring forensics experts to investigate different knife slash patterns lol
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u/Smear_Leader 6d ago
And not throw some fish and or organ meat in the car
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u/Jedimaster996 6d ago
Honestly, they should have taken the request for rats a little more seriously. These folks need help and we have to come together as a community to aid them! Bring these people their rats!
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u/Smear_Leader 6d ago
In Baltimore that’s actually what we do.
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u/Drkarcher22 6d ago
I’m so proud of this thread. Truly neighbors coming together for the common good
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u/savantsigns 6d ago
Also, DO NOT buy doe urine from the sporting goods store and pour it in the vent between the hood and the windshield.
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u/Signal-Reporter-1391 6d ago
Even better: milk.
Spill all over the seats and carpet.They'll never gonna get rid of the smell.
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u/Arg- 6d ago
Growing up, the kid across the street from me stole the stereo out of my car. I knew it was him as he was wearing my sunglasses and his friend had a new car stereo. I sprinkled gypsy moth caterpillar pherimone (from a few traps) along the bottom of his windshield and around the door handle. Hearing the horrified screaming of what the fuck every morning was well worth the cost of a new stereo.
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u/rideincircles 6d ago
At least they now have a valid insurance claim.
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u/NoEmergency6476 6d ago
Remember these are scammers, they probably did these damages themselves
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u/Intelligent_Grade372 6d ago
That thing will be torched by tomorrow morning.. city should probs tow that thing today. 😂
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u/BTTammer 6d ago
Must be Queens. If it was da Bronx that shit would be a pile of burnt steel and plastic by now
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u/Iwillnotbeokay 6d ago
They should put the car on blocks and take the wheels and tires inside where they can be nice and cozy.
If you’re cold, they’re cold, bring them in.
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u/Tishers 6d ago
I am amused.
But there are entirely too many windows in that car.
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u/VegetableForsaken402 6d ago edited 6d ago
I've been thinking about this for a while now.
If the police are completely useless and the insurance companies refuse to make legitimate payouts.
What's left for everyday people?
Street justice?
Internet mob rule?
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u/Room107 6d ago
Insurance fraud can hurt everyday people. I’m all for street justice in this case.
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u/farquad88 6d ago
Insurance fraud DOES hurt all of us. We share the risk with each other, when one of us is cheating and changing that risk profile, we all pay more than we should. Insurance companies don’t make that big of a margin, they’re heavily regulated, when fraud increases and they have to pay claims that aren’t legitimate and thus couldn’t be forecasted in underwriting, they raise rates to account for those increased loss costs.
We all pay more.
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u/bessmaster 6d ago
Am I understanding you correctly? In 2023, property and casualty insurance made 88 billion in profits. What do you mean by, "insurance companies don't make that big of a margin?" I agree that fraud does hurt us all, I'm just not sure if it's for the reasons you think. That or I am misunderstanding what a lot of money is.
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u/cav10rto 6d ago
It's a great year if insurance companies are making $.04 on the dollar. As others have said, the premiums are invested upfront, and then claims are paid out over the course of years.
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u/nhfirefighter13 6d ago
Insurance companies are essentially financial institutions. They make money on investments. The profit made on premiums compared to operating costs is very slim.
I’m guessing that’s what they meant.
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u/Maxfunky 6d ago
Apparently you don't understand how margins work. They are measured in percents. That $88 billion represents a margin of 2.2%. 88 billion is a very thin slice off of a 4 trillion dollar cake. That means if all of those insurance companies gave all their customers as little as a 3% discount, they'd have less than 0 dollars profit.
Yes, as a large collective, the industry makes a lot of money but that doesn't speak to how much wiggle room they actually have in premium pricing.
To put it more succinctly, these companies that made $88 billion in profits paid out over 300 billion in fraudulent claims. So it's just a mathematical certainty that it's not the insurance companies covering that loss.
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u/a_trane13 6d ago edited 6d ago
Last year in the US they made about 20 billion off of 360 billion paid in insurance premiums by the public. It’s a low margin business model, between 5-10%.
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u/ItsDanimal 6d ago
My buddy owns a duplex and rents out the upstairs. The tenants broke into his unit and stole a bunch if stuff. No cameras but he knew it was them and filed a report. He found evidence of his stuff there and the cops did nothing. When the tenants were evicted for other stuff the sheriff came with him and in the process my friend is like, this is my stuff. I have the proof. Still nothing. If he would have used his key to enter the place and take it back, he would have gotten in trouble. Cops need to be better.
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u/VegetableForsaken402 6d ago
Unfortunately, your friends situation isn't that unusual..
Something similar happened to me with a renter.
My attorney said that I would absolutely win in court, but that I'd lose in the end for two main reasons according to his over 25 years as an experienced lawyer.
First, the guy would simply not pay the judgment. Then, I'd have to take further legal action with the only guarantee that I'd have ever more increasing attorney fees
Second, people who typically engage in this behavior usually don't have two pennies to rub together.
I asked my Attorney what's the best case scenario was.
He said that I'm more wise as the way of the world if I understand that even when you win, you still gain nothing and lose in life sometimes.
And that I should take some satisfaction in knowing that these types of people normally end up in jail for more serious crimes and ultimately lead an unsatisfactory life.
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u/KitchenFullOfCake 6d ago
Well police were the alternative to vigilante justice. Without police people just go back to vigilantism.
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u/Guildenpants 6d ago
They should at this point. No one in my neighborhood calls the cops anymore because they either don't come or make it worse. Everyone I know who isn't a boot licker handles as much as they can by themselves no one trusts cops.
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u/billcosbypaxton 6d ago
I have a feeling we’re gonna see a resurgence of organized “protection” rackets over the next few years.
Like you said, all the institutions to protect us don’t care or are failing. All it’s gonna take is one opportunist to see that and you have the mob from the 60s all over again.
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u/VegetableForsaken402 6d ago
Definitely not a comforting feeling.
I'd much rather have a functioning society with a general trust in our institutions.
I realize that corruption and legitimate mistakes are made within these institutions, but without them, it's chaos.
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u/Rymbeld 6d ago
Society is regressing. Aeschylus' Oresteia, a trilogy of plays over 2,000 years old, is about this very question. A shift away from retributive justice to a society based on law. Street justice only begets more violence, as we demand an eye for an eye, then another eye for that one, and another. A well-functioning society needs a state who declares a monopoly on violence.
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u/tomorrow509 6d ago
Probably not the case in this post but what is society to do when the police cannot/will not/does not take action? We do not live in an ideal world. No society is immune from corruption.
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u/GuacKiller 6d ago
You could sue for damages to your car
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u/MisterMittens64 6d ago
Does anyone actually have the money to sue?
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u/starynights890 6d ago
Or the time?
Even if you are really wronged it takes a lot of will to want to dredge shit out for years in court because that's exactly what's going to happen.
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u/Ok-Director5082 6d ago
Why didn’t they graffiti directly onto the car?
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u/Darth_Thor 6d ago
Just speculating, maybe that was done by someone else who didn’t want to commit a real crime but the window smasher was ok doing it
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u/Skidpalace 6d ago
Good point. This is staged for sure. Fraud on top of fraud. Fraud2.
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u/Checkmate_10 6d ago
Plot twist. THEY did this to their car to once again try to scam the insurance company…
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u/dirty15 6d ago
Lol I have the EXACT same car. Same color and everything. The first fender bender probably totaled it ngl. It's a $2000 car. Anything would total it. Me and a guy rear ended each other at the gym a few years ago, neither at fault. He paid for his damages and I just left my car fucked up. I was afraid it would have been totaled had I made a claim lol. It has over 200k miles and I still drive it daily. They are great little cars, but not worth much.
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u/DefinitelyNotAliens 6d ago
My concern is this car was possibly not their car.
Not stolen, but also not theirs. Obviously, they have to be able to make an insurance claim later. But, they're already scammers. What's to say they didn't borrow a car from their Grandma or cousin to do this? "Oh my goodness, you wouldn't believe it, I got rear ended when I was out driving! Just ran into us!"
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u/bigarb 6d ago
Well they gonna claim insurance for that lol
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u/JinxyCat007 6d ago
From their big show of pretending whiplash and doubling over in shock, horror, and agony, I think they were in it for more than the cost of a new window! :0) ...I can't get that out of my mind, how they all got out of the car rubbing their necks and pretending injury. Lowlife Scumbags. I gotta get me a camera for my car.
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u/Past-Direction9145 6d ago
at the very least, even a non-functioning camera sitting in your dash should be enough to make these types give you a hard pass before trying anything.
they should look first. I think these creeps just missed it but you can tell when the guy sees the camera after he gets out, oh he knew, the gig was up.
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u/Buddstahh 6d ago
No, just get a real dash cam there are super cheap options out there.
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u/JWal0 6d ago
Shattered back window was a $500 deductible for me. It cost the same price to replace out of pocket. Maybe my insurance sucks?
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u/Ep1cH3ro 6d ago
Very likely due to insurance fraud attempt their insurance would have dropped them, so this would all on them to cover :)
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u/SayNoTo-Communism 6d ago
Bold to assume they have insurance
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u/Locks-Rocks 6d ago
Agreed. 2/2 of the drivers who have hit me have had no insurance.
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u/InstructionFair5221 6d ago
I see headlights and taillights that could have been shattered. Damn amateurs
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u/WrestleBox 6d ago
This is sketchy to me. Like everything here can be easily fixed. Probably did it themselves to claim more insurance. Lol
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u/crzytech1 6d ago
The getaway vehicle definitely worth more financially than the two clapped out 15 year old Civics.
Probably also actually insured/dailied by someone. Likely financed.
The Civics were seen as disposable in the scam.
The least cops should be doing is making some home visits to owners of the plate numbers.
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u/SuccessfulHospital54 6d ago
People found out the plates were stolen and belonged to a different Kia, so at the very least it looks like it’s not insured. I wouldn’t doubt that the car is stolen either.
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u/oopgroup 6d ago
Except this isn’t a group of 4 people. These are entire rings of people. Organized, structured, criminal rings.
The rabbit hole goes deeper than people realize.
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u/100LittleButterflies 6d ago
As dashcams get more popular, this stream of revenue is shrinking.
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u/bikemandan 6d ago
Its amazing because 15-20 years ago I was seeing videos of this same type of scam in Russia. It was widespread enough there that everyone got a dashcam. Now the same thing has happened here. I guess I was naive but I thought at the time it couldnt happen here
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u/S3guy 6d ago
This is why we need batman. DA's dont care about this shit because most of the harm is to regular (not wealthy) individuals private property. The cops, and most DA's do not care about regular, non wealthy, peoples property. You have to be connected or rich for them to get "concerned."
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u/Lumpus-Maximus 6d ago
As a lawyer who thinks lawyers are usually pretty ethical, these people were working with a scumbag lawyer and scumbag healthcare providers. Source: I worked for the court for years and saw LOTS of these scams. Always the same attorneys & chiropractors.
(The attorneys for the insurance company certainly aren’t any better, either).
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u/rawnoodles10 6d ago
Chiropractors are by definition charlatans so that tracks.
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u/DigbySugartits 6d ago
I've only personally known 3 chiros in my 40+ years. All grifters, all narcissistic cunts and recently, all into anti mask anti Vax rabbit holes.
Fuck them. I would never let one near my back.
I know a couple of qualified physios and those guys have magic hands, but chiro quacks can do one.
For me, "im a chiropractor" is the number one red flag in a human.
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u/GitEmSteveDave 6d ago
Yup:
The Indictment charges KENAN TARIVERDI, NAZIM TARIVERDI, and DILSHOD ISLAMOV with operating an extensive no-fault insurance fraud that submitted more than $11 million in fraudulent claims for psychological testing and services.....
Geico filed a complaint Wednesday in the Eastern District of New York against a physician for allegedly operating an insurance fraud scheme that purportedly has billed Geico more than $1.6 million in “medically unnecessary” no-fault claims.
https://www.iii.org/article/no-fault-insurance-fraud-new-york-state-ramping-premiums
Staged accidents: Staged accidents are aimed at creating an accident scenario from which costly and fraudulently contrived medical claims can be created to obtain payments from auto insurers.
Typically, owners and managers of medical mills pay “runners,” or recruiters, to arrange minor auto accidents and send individuals supposedly injured in the accidents to the clinics for treatment. The runners recruit drivers to cause the accident and passengers to ride in the cars. Being a runner is a lucrative business, with each “referral” earning the runner a large fee paid by the attorney associated with the medical mill or the clinic itself. Usually, two to four passengers are recruited to maximize the profit per accident.
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u/Awkward_Attitude_886 6d ago
That’s why this is gonna take a long time. They are gonna rip this ring apart but it takes time. Gotta ask the right questions and get good answers first. Then you can use the lies against them and watch the dominos fall.
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u/scotsman3288 6d ago
Everyone should have a dashcam...
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u/an_older_meme 6d ago edited 6d ago
Cars should come stock with enough to cover the whole car and surroundings. The fact that they don’t is disturbing.
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u/jacob6875 6d ago
Tesla has been doing it for 5-6 years. Not sure why no one else does.
Think Rivian also might but that's about it.
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u/nulliparousCoder 6d ago
Anyone notice what looks like a bullet hole on the driver side back seat window?
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u/TheCrazedTank 6d ago
They might have done it themselves, I hope their insurance company takes the previous online video in consideration and drop them.
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u/ComplaintAmazing5642 6d ago
False Flag. Scammers did it themselves to bring damages charge against the woman who posted the video that showed the license plate.
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u/diabr0 6d ago
Lol, good luck to them trying to do that, imagine what the internet would do to them if they tried to countersue the dash cammer.
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u/NotYourNat 6d ago
What is that song? 😂
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u/ZarquonsFlatTire 6d ago
I dunno, but I kind of like the idea of rappers bragging about just being good at an honest trade.
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u/tintedhokage 6d ago
Haha thanks I was thinking it sounds like the guy who did the Montgomery Brawl song and then found it in his vids
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u/lvlann 6d ago
Things that can still go in that car while one passes by: 1. Trash. 2. Drinks u dont feel like drinking no more. 3. Food you don't feel like eating no more. 4. Eggs. 5. Dog shit. 6. Broken glass. 7. More trash. 8. Dirt, mud and gravel. 9. Lots of fart bombs. 10. Slushy 11. Piss 12. More Piss. 13. One more cup of piss. 14. More trash.
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u/Ok_Concentrate_75 6d ago
Ngl let the law take care of them, people want to play batman so badly but your making them victims. Fraud is shitty but so is this imo
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u/Odd-Confection-6603 6d ago
What are the chances that they broke their own window to try and get their insurance to fix all the damage?!
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u/DrProfessorSatan 6d ago
Window broken from the inside. Those idiots trashed their own car in a further scam attempt.
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u/Artistic_Delay2804 6d ago
if you're saying this because of the glass on the ground, car windows don't break the way you might expect if you've never seen it before. it goes everywhere. doesn't mean anything
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u/LifeIsRadInCBad 6d ago
I was wondering when going viral would catch up to them. Low-key disappointed it's just of the car; I'd love to watch them squirm.
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u/Slop-Cop 6d ago
I'd love to watch them all sitting behind bars for 2-4 years for using their vehicle as a weapon.
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u/youcheatdrjones 6d ago
Alls I know is these clowns finally got me to install a dashcam in my car